Kieron

So what are we all doing at the moment? I am kind of back on a bulk as there hasn't been much of a summer so it seems pointless trying to trim up when you are covered up all the while anyhow. Actually I am aiming for recomp which is doing both but my main aim is to add some muscle. I went to Englands Strongest Man at the weekend and felt like a midget.

I recently done a 3 month transformation thing and if I am completely honest didn't do any cardio. I hate it! But just by changing my diet a bit and maintaining a high level of training I changed quite a bit.

Anyone else made some decent changes lately? Or is it just plodding on?

P412KER

I probably train the same as you, trying to do both at the same time. Although over the past few months i have done a little bit of cardio, which kills me.....

ajamesc

what sort of diet do you have if dont mind me asking i use the gym every other day and have been for 2 years im quite tonned and very fit as i run and swim alot but after adding some size now but dont really know about diets so wouldent know wear to start or what sort of thing to eat to get what im after!

Kieron

A crap one to be brutally honest. I'm not one for weighing out food or abstaining from alcohol/junk food if I fancy it.

As long as your getting 1.5-2gm of protein per kg of bodyweight then you should be good to go for growing. If you get fat tone down the carbs, especially the starchy ones as found in Pasta, Bread and Potatoes.

To be brutally honest I see people that look like shit on BB forums going into the fine details of a diet. Its as simple as train HARD, rest and eat protein. Doesn't need to be anymore complex than that imho. All I done to cut was ditch some bread and fast food. Oh and tried to eat earlier in the evening as I wasn't eating until 8.30 most nights.

Most people fall short of training properly.

Glenn_

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I dont wanna sound gay but you look well on the pics. Ive been doing weights for a few years now and i look fook all like you do. Im stronger than i was. I train about 3 to 4 times a week i do differnet body parts in them days. Ive changed my diet and have stook to it for the past year now. I eat a lot of pasta cause the wife only likes spag bol or lasagene lol. I hardly ever eat bread or crap food. I wish i lookes like you do. How long did it take you to change from how you look in the first pics to how you look in the aecond pics.

Kieron

Thanks Glenn. The time between pics is three months. I half heartedly done a transformation comp (hence the papers) on another web site but was pleasantly surprised by the change as I didn't really give it my all. Felt a bit of a fraud when I came second.

Although I don't look good in the first pics the meat is all there, just needed the fat trimmed to show it off better. I was around 245lbs in the before pics and 234 in the after.

I have been training for years though, but I have trouble adding size as I am an ectomorph and would be 10 stone dripping wet if I didn't train.

smudgerz

Looking well mate! was on a clean ish bulk, got to 13st 5lbs Then just gone through a break up with my girlfirend, was living on protein shakes and not much else! Training really sufered, no energy and just coudnt be arsed with the gym. back training now, weighed myself today.....12st 1ib. Gutted! On the plus side, nearly got a six pack, not had one of them for years!!

Smudge

Kieron

Time to build the muscle back up and keep the fat off then mate. Muscle memory - your best friend!

Glenn_

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The past few months ive been training with a good friend of mine and im lifting more weight i just wanna get big like you bud.

Kieron

We all want to be bigger/more cut/look like someone else mate. Occupational hazzard with gyming! Nature of the beast means you willl probably never be happy.

Glenn_

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Im happy the way i look now but would like to look big like you. So whats you routine in the gym then.

Kieron

I train 5 days a week with one bodypart per day. However what works for me might be different to you. Alot of people would say 5 days is too much and label it overtraining. Just find what works for you and stick with it. The most important thing is to be pushing yourself beyond the limits.

Danny.

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[quote=Kieron;5561049]So what are we all doing at the moment?[quote]

I'm 7 weeks into a 9 week cut.

Gone from 16 stone to 14.10 with abs showing well now.

Should finish just over 14 stone ripped!

Kieron

[quote=Danny.;5565313][quote=Kieron;5561049]So what are we all doing at the moment?Sounds like its going really well mate. Any progress pics?

Danny.

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Cheers, Yeah it is going well!

Struggled to get back into doing my morning cardio but like you I went to a bodybuilding show my mate was competing in and that gave me the kick up the arse I needed. Have done at least 40mins every morning for the last 7 weeks!

Diet is super strict too with only one cheat meal saturday nights

Have got a few pics on my phone that show massive changes but dont really want to post them tbh

Kieron

Thats fair enough.

Which show did you go to?

Danny.

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Been to a couple this year -

Ukbff South Coast show in Portsmouth

&

Ukbff London & South East Show in Hayes

stevenebm

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cut right down.took 1 and a half stone off as full of water.sitting just below 15st.stength has went down a good bit tho.1st september il head back up but take it slower.ive found out carbs dont agree with me above 200g per day.

Dirty Harry

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Iam just finishing a 10 week bulk and then will diet to whats underneath,but knocking on the door of 44 in months time its hard but still run rings around the young lads half my age in the gym

muz

I'd love to get back on the weights but just not allowed. Wish I looked like I did before xmas with a bit of size but doing too much Cardio to bulk up

muz

On the plus side though, my legs are fucking beasts right now. They've never looked so good

Kieron

Once you've found that balance you should be alright mate. plus your not adverse to changing it about a bit.

I know some guys older that who are in very good shape. Thats the one thing with this sport, age doesn't restrict you too much.

Why not Muz? What did I miss?

muz

Joining the Army, Keiron. No good being big and strong if you can't run like fuck

Kieron

Fair point! Plus you would be a bigger target!

muz

I haven't touched a weight since Novemeber IIRC but still got it all set up in the worskshop and flat benched 70KG for one set of 8 the other week when I got curious as to how weak I am now Only weighing 72KGs right now as well so happy with body weight repping after 8 months off. Running the army 1.5 miles in around 8:20-8:30 as well. Now I'm off to get smashed around the boxing ring as a few months off have taken their toll there as well

Glenn_

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Since ive been going to the gym ive lost 2 stone i just wish i could bulk up a bit. Im lifting heavier weights than i was last year but my body still looks the same as it did this time last year.

Danny.

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Its all to do with food mate! You can't build a house without bricks!

Glenn_

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For my bait i have either half a full chcken or 2 tins of tuna. An apple orange a breakfast bar a yogurt. Then for tea i have rather spag bol, lasagene, tuna pasta or fish. I have a bowl of porrige every morning too.

muz

You getting 3-4 shakes a day in you as well, mate? That'll help. Some people just don't seem to get big though unfortunately. But I'm not into the "it's what you look like you can lift, not what you can lift" school of thought. I'd rather be deceptively strong than huge and weak.

P412KER

I was in the army for years pal, and if anything i was bigger then, than i am now (17 stone), granted i bulked up after basic training ..

muz

I'm joining the Paras though mate. I'll be 10stone wet through by the time I pass out. You just can't meet the run times if you're a big lad.

P412KER

Fair enough, i was in the REME, although there is a few freaks that i know who are paras, and they are beasts....

Basic training is mint though, you hate it at the time, but love what you have achieved afterwards...

Glenn_

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My days when i dont go to the gym i have my shake 3 times in them days. The days when im at the gym i have the protein shake 4 times on them days.


I know ive got stronger too cause i can lift more weight since last year.

Kieron

What we all doing now? Winter bulk time??

Persoanlly I have been chipping away and trying to get bigger. It is slowly working but I've had a bit of a setback this week with the trots. Not been able to eat for days. Not weighed myself yet but feel like I have lost it all. lol. Now hitting the protein hard and heading to the gym tonight to start to get back to where I was. Bit of a pain as I was really happy with my progress and size for once. I was starting to look like one of the big guys.

Coldo

I'm on a winter cut believe it or not.

Was at sea for 4 months, champagne lifestyle, eating shitloads, drinking shitloads and not really training well at all. Partly due to facilities, partly due to tiredness but that's no excuse. Still managed 2/3 days a week but no real structure to it.

Gained about a stone of 'bad weight' so now im home i've lost the stone and gonna try for another off too.

Started at 115kg, now down to 109kg. Would like to be 100kg by xmas without losing any strength, so far so good.

Then Jan - March it will be a sort of lean-ish bulk. I gain weight faaaaarr to easily so will keep up some cardio but with a focus on adding strength/size.

muz

I want to introduce a single shoulder and back session into my weekly cardio workout as I've lost alot of upper body strength. Legs are still plenty strong, though, so don't have to worry much there.

rs clint

tried gym and diet owt happened sod it i like my scran too much

bazzal

Bulking now until april, i've been bulking most of this year if i'm honest, then cut ready for florida at christmas time 2012.

stu21t

Is there anywhere that gives good guides to whats best to eat, if you know what i mean?

I got back into kickboxing at the start of this year (march)
Ive always weighed 12.5-13stone. I used to eat a LOT of fryups, 4-5 a week. Would eat toast for breakfast, and a BIG evening meal at 8pm ish, if ready meals i could do a cottage pie meant for 4 with ease lol.
But ive never been fat. Had a layer on my belly but not much at all really.


Since trainin again i now weigh around 13stone.
I go 3 times a week for 2-2.5hrs and theres loads of cardio involved, i come home with my clothes soaked, look like i jumped in a pond lol.
Changed my diet a lot too, now have a bowl of oats for brekkie, 11ses 2 chicken drum sticks/sausage roll/large scotch egg... Stuff like that, apple/bananna, for lunch a big salad with a chicken breast/2 tins tuna/seafood, on non trainin days or same meats with pasta on trainin days, and a heinz big soup for dinner before trainin (dont get time to cook a meal and any more food i feel sick at trainin). I have myprotein hurricane xs twice on trainin days, 11am and straight after.

Eat pretty healthy most weekends but still have takeaways/pizza/roast.....


Anything i should be doing differently? And what could i eat after trainin before bed? I train 7-9.30pm, get in at 10 then bed at 11.


My stomach is now a lot more trim, can see a 6pack easy if i tense, not so visable the rest of the time.
I want to get it more on show but id also like a bit more size but not weight as i wanna stay in the same weight class for fighting (75-85kg, im 80-82 currently)

Im also a builder so do lots of real world weights and am a lot stronger than i look lol, but not much use in the gym as ive never been a fan of them.
I try to go gym on my off days but need to rest some time lol.

Oh im about 6'2" and a 34-36waist...

Any advice guys?

smokey

[QUOTE=Danny.;5565313][quote=Kieron;5561049]So what are we all doing at the moment?How much cardio are you doing to achieve that Danny?