Not sure if its just me not being familiar enough with the software to know where to turn the option on or if it isnt there.

Is there a way to be on the grid to edit the fuel, or the one to edit the timing, and when you make a change, it update in real time to the ecu, or do you HAVE to piss about pressing ctrl-p then hitting enter to confirm that yes you want to do the update you just asked for then hitting enter again to confirm that its just done what you asked it to do and confirmed you wanted it to do?

Just semes like a really shit interface compared with being able to just flick into a "live update mode" on the same grid and it make changes to the ecu as you make them on the laptop.

 

tabatha seems to be into emarald stuff

steve

 

that sounds pants if it can't be changed. i'm sure that you'll agree that the interface on the RP Lab software is brilliant in that respect

 

Its not live editing.

Alex

 

jays car runs it...........

 

think jay and micheal both got rid of there emaralds because of this fact chip.

might be wrong though.

 

did run it,, he binned it,, really didnt get on with it!

 

RP Labs one is fantastic IMHO, works really well, gives you the choice of online or offline editing, EXACTLY as it should be.

The emerald is fine on a set of rollers im sure, but its really difficult to live map it on the road where its harder to control what load site you are in for so long at a time.

 

Running Emerald K3 on mine but im ashamed to say i have no idea on its operation.

I have mailed the guy who does mine the link to this, hopefully he will advise, although he is supposed to be working on mine.

 

Nice one, it would be good to have some feedback from people who map it a lot about how they do it.

Its not a system ive used much, only ever mapped a few cars on it, so im sure a lot of it is down to my inexperience with the software probably.

 

Just ring Dave Walker up and ask him you plumb..(01953 889110) rather than relying on second hand information that may or may not be true.

Chip I would have credited you with more nouse than that....

 

I dont like disturbing tuners at work when Ive utterly NO intention of spending any money with them Neil, so if someone can just suggest something that I can try out without needing to bother Dave, I would prefer that.

 

I wish every one was like that and so do most tuners

 

Chip

I am sure Dave would welcome the call, after all someone has spent money with him to get the ECU in the first place.

And I am sure most tuners would prefer you had the correct information to do the job rather than you get duff info and then assume their product is crap.


OK if you rang him and expected a 3 hour, step by step, How To Map A Car training course on the phone then I could see any tuner may not be happy with that.

But you arent asking for that.

 

does dave not have an 0898 number for chip to ring lol

 

That would be ideal, he'd be getting paid, id get an interesting chat, and I dont pay the bill for my phone as its a company one

 

that is a good attitude to have

but he may rather have a 5 minute call than potentially people reading this get the wrong impression of how easy his ecu is or isn't to use (although i'm sure that you've made it obvious that it could be you at fault and not the ecu/software, and will clarify the situation once you know for sure )

 

Dave walker refused to come to the phone when my engine builder wanted to ask him a question 2 months ago about the emerald cam in my engine, It was one of his cams, and his secretary said "we dont do cams anymore ring newman"
nice attitude!

steve

 

Once you get past the secretary dave is great. Best time to ring is between 9 and 10, as he doesn't start mapping till then.

If you stick it on the live adjustments screen - f8 i think, you can make on the fly changes, have you read the manual?

The K3 also does adaptive mapping, just take it for a drive check the results, upload them and take it for another drive. A couple of goes and it's normally pretty much spot on. Obviously you start at the low load sites.

 

Well Chip......

You're Tuner Friendly Attitude has caused more potential damage to Emerald than the 5 minute call it would have taken to answer your question.

So you've actually done Emerald more harm than good.

There are people who are making statements that two people have got rid of the system because of the issue you are talking about..... but then saying they might not be sure if thats true.

Someone else saying someone got rid of it because they didnt get on with it and now someone else has had an opportunity to comment and say the customer service they'd received is poor.


Chip if you EVER want to know ANYTHING about Anglias... RING ME for fooksake

 

you can save the adjustments live on the live adjustments screen, once you trim a particular site you press a key (enter i think) and it updates the map.

if you make a change in the spreadsheet view you do indeed need to then hit program ECU button to update

 

Im not on about the live adjustments screen, which I find a pain to use as by the time you know what adjustment you want to make, its already moved onto the next load site if you are mapping while someone is driving, im on about the grid.

NeilM, how the hell can anything ive said in this post of done any harm to emerald, all ive done is ask a fucking question!

 

or alternativly he can listen to people on here who do know the answer....

Like I post on about the 3rd reply


Emerald is not hard to use by any means (you need DTA for that lol). It just not have a live map screen where the vaules you are chaning are updated as you type - you just update a few and then hit upload, its hardly a pain.

Alex

 

It is a pain though on the ignition timing, fair enough on the fuelling its a piece of cake cause you just run through, and then update a load of values at once, but on ignition you cant really do that if you are trying to find the det points properly!

 

true but on a RR its a piece of piss - and remember what Dave Walker maps on.

 

Before you asked your 'fucking question' myself and 99.9% of the people on this forum had no idea that 'The Youths' engine builder had been given 'short shrift' regarding a cam query.

Nor did 99.9% of the people know that two people had ditched the system because of some apparent shortcoming, which we dont really know yet if it actually is a short coming or if there is a work around or its a feature.

Both these things will no doubt affect some peoples purchasing decision when it comes to buying an ECU.

Had you not asked the question these 'issues' would not have come into the public domain.


Where I have no doubt Axel F is correct in what he's saying, I'm not sure about Ryan... in fact he's not sure himself but he was still happy to make the statement regardless.


You see at the time The Youths engine builder could have called when Dave was having a shit, or he could have been sat in a car at 7300 rpm on the rollers and it wasnt convenient to talk, he could have suggested that the builder call Newman to get the answer he needed quickly, thus giving the best service in the circumstances, that part of the story is not told, all we know is he refused to come to the phone and we interpret this as him being arsey in some way.

Personally I like my information as close to the source as possible to ensure that 'Forum Flannel', the digital 'Pub Talk', doesnt lead me down the garden path.

 

imo dta is a breeze to the k3 alex

 

so its better that ppl spend there hard earned cash and find out these problems thereself ???

 

seeing as at least 2 peole who have had emerald are on this post (jim and jay) i'm sure they can explain their reasoning as to why they changed the system for another one (or, in jim's case, if he did or sold the car as it was)

neil sounds like he's a dealer for emerald but i do see his point, although i am having to look really hard through my binoculars

 

just book the car in with dave and get him to map it using his wealth of knowledge of mapping emerald

 

So im somehow at fault because I started a thread asking a question and some people replied with their first hand experience?

I'd say Dawn has something to worry about here Neil mate

 

Car in question already had a map from Dave on it anyway in fact, but has now got different spec cams, so it was a bit rich in the midrange and a little lean at the top end, so I just sorted it out for the guy who owns it, charged him nothing as he is a mate, he lives local so it cost him less in fuel as well than going to Dave's and he is perfectly happy with the results, reckons it drives much better now, so no need for the car to go to Dave as its all sorted anyway, its not that I *cant* do it on emerald, I just find it an awkward interface so wondered if there was an option on there that I wasnt aware of to allow the grid to live update thats all.

 

A suitable response though could have ensured he came across differently.. such as im sorry but im really tied up at the moment could you please call back later, or can I call you back.
Likewise when suggesting someone else for assistance you can always end it with please do not hesitate to call back if you do not get the answer you require.

If what is being suggested was actually stated then it is arsey and unhelpful towards products sold.

 

you come across as an inteligent guy in practically all the posts you post in when you offer advice, from what i have seen, but i'm sure that if he was having a shit or mapping a car the secretary cold have ofered a "he's a little busy right now, can you leave you name and number and he'll call you back when he's free/can you call back in an hour? alternativly, here is the manufacturers number for the cam in question if you need it"
?

that would have been a much better way, i think, to have put it

from the information we have in front of our screens now, it seems that the secreatry is doing a good job of alienating memebrs of the public while dave is too busy writng stuff for his column
not
dave is swapped with work as everyone thinks he's a star so if it's a little hard to get hold of him it's a reasonable expectaion given the ammount of work he needs to do

peole wouldn't get the same answer from martin, or stu, or mike would you? because you know if peole did, it would have been all over the internet 5 seconds later and their reputations would take a hammering

dave is not one of the biggest names here so his secretary palming someone off with a shity excuse isn't going to turn into a 58 page thread about how shit a service he's suddenly started to provide as only about 5 members out of 30,000 seem to have used his products

 

i wouldn't go on about this point without having first hand experience of exactly what was said by the 'secretary' and how it was said.

 

do you ring bill gates and ask him how to operate windows

 

 

lol. I expect he neither knows nor cares. Thats what he employs techies for.

 

It's amazing how ridiculous threads can get on here when just a simple question is asked

 

Shame really, was a perfectly simple question just to ask if you can turn on live update on the grid like you can on RP labs, I was hardly planning on starting a world war, I actually think the ecu's are good value FFS