Before you asked your 'fucking question' myself and 99.9% of the people on this forum had no idea that 'The Youths' engine builder had been given 'short shrift' regarding a cam query.

Nor did 99.9% of the people know that two people had ditched the system because of some apparent shortcoming, which we dont really know yet if it actually is a short coming or if there is a work around or its a feature.

Both these things will no doubt affect some peoples purchasing decision when it comes to buying an ECU.

Had you not asked the question these 'issues' would not have come into the public domain.


Where I have no doubt Axel F is correct in what he's saying, I'm not sure about Ryan... in fact he's not sure himself but he was still happy to make the statement regardless.


You see at the time The Youths engine builder could have called when Dave was having a shit, or he could have been sat in a car at 7300 rpm on the rollers and it wasnt convenient to talk, he could have suggested that the builder call Newman to get the answer he needed quickly, thus giving the best service in the circumstances, that part of the story is not told, all we know is he refused to come to the phone and we interpret this as him being arsey in some way.

Personally I like my information as close to the source as possible to ensure that 'Forum Flannel', the digital 'Pub Talk', doesnt lead me down the garden path.