Lee was made redundant after 26 weeks for " medical reasons " (~ he needs a knee replacement and couldnt do his job as could no longer bend his knee)

they werent prepared to keep him on or offer him a position he was able to do, they terminated his contract and gave him his holiday pay

i dont think they can do it before 26 weeks though

 

of course u can be sacked if you dont have a valid excuse for being off........if someone had 3 months for in my conpany they would be out end of. 3 months is a long time unless you are really really ill

and they can only make your position redundant if they dont fill it within 6 months.

 

They have to go down the correct route!

I.e verbal warning, written, final written etc etc

They cannot by law just sack you for your first offence!

The union who have a field day!

 

if your just " off sick"

but if you have a genuine sick note and medical reason, its pretty shitty to just make someone redundant, especially if theyre awaiting an op or similar and cant genuinely do anything until theyre better

i was on the sick from my job due to my back, i was finished in january, but so where the rest of my team, i wont be fit to work until ive had my operation..... though being off for nearly 2yrs i couldnt really complain, after 3mths though id be pretty peeved!

 

Your 'friend' sounds like a work shy job dodger

If a doctor agrees with your 'friend' then I unnderstand the time he takes off could be LONG term. The only snag in 'his' plan is if his employer decides to get an independant examination carried out, in which case if your 'friend' is faking it, he is fucked.

 

how can you get a verbal warning for being ill????

 

If you had over 6 months off on the club they could give you a warning.. if it's verbal or written...

Thye usually offer you to come back on light duties on a half day for a while instead of full day....

If you are medically unsuitable to do your job again then if they follow the rules they can sack you!

 

I think he meant if they suspect you are 'at it'

 

and fully within their rights aswell if im honest

 

Didnt know that.

 

back in my p/t days at Asda i got disciplined for being off 3 times in 26 week rolling period!!

1 was in hospital for blood clot in leg so had a doc's line.
1 was broken hand bone again with docs line
i forget the 3rd but all were legitimate and i got done! now if i had previous i'd have been sacked for being sick!

 

Thats the diference ,between emloyer and employee.
I need to be hospitalised befor i have time off as its my livelyhood.
Where as employees in general take the piss,i tell all my lads ,runny noses and a sore throte are no reason for a sicky.
3 months off is a fooking long time if your paying there wages,i would be getting rid of em after 3 weeks ,seriosly

 

Lees employer refused to give him light duties, wouldnt give him a suitable position which they could of done quite easily, just sacked him after 6yrs service, he got a measly Ł500 off em

wankers

 

Reason i know this is that we have a new Human resources manager at our works.... Before she came here just over a month ago we heard on the grapevine she was an expert at following the rules and getting people sacked...

She's now in her 6th week and she has followed the rules and sacked five employees for being off work for different reasons (pulling sickies, skiving, not doing job correctly)

To be honest they all deserved it, one person in particular hadn't done a full rosta all year without having time off with sickies... He had the easist job in the plant and he couldn't even do that fucker properly. I had no sympathy for him when i saw him with HR staff emptying his locker... Got what he deserved.

Luckily our contract gives them 90days money when they leave....

 

I had 9 months off a few years back
fucked my back up falling of a faulty machine at work

never got offerd light duties on return either

all 9 months were with certifacates

 

wants to sort himself out ,depresion is only a state of mind .
i find it difficult to comprehend how being off moping about would make anyone feel better than getting stuck into life and what it dishes up .

Sounds harsh , but it is my oppinion

if the depression is work related then he should change jobs and not be on the sick

 

if its work related depression, they should not be hassling him for a return date

they shouldnt sack him when they both know he is unfit for work, but if its likely to be a long term sickness, theyre probably within their rights to terminate

depends what the doctor has said to them id imagine

 

I got the sack for being off work 1 day and legally i hadeant a leg to stand on due to being employed less than 1 yr. The shift pattern i worked was a wierd one and i had 2 days off (fri & mon) and was die back on the tue but was still ill with the flu (yes real flu NOT man flu ) and when i went back in on the wed they took me into office and sent me packing that day but had to finish my shift first and it was a week before xmas aswell and it was a very reputable company aswell Rolls Royce

It all depends on the guys situation to be honest m8

 

someone give this bloke a medical degree

i think you'll find you coudnt possibly be more wrong

 

you sir are a Cunt who obviously has no idea what it's like to live with this ILLNESS, Im sure my wife would Love to go and see her psyciatrist for her to turn round and tell her she has wasted 5 years of her life because she has been in the wrong state of mind

 

I was off sick for just over 3 years until i got the sack...

 

I worked for the NHS, & it was there fault i was off sick so they could say bugger all

 

A how long has he been there ?
B what is his job is it important ?
C has he been handing in lines to verify being sick ?
D what type of illness is it ?
E has employee been ill in the past ?
F has employee been late caused any trouble etc
then we'll take it from there

 

Jim Galbally

You may look like a doc ,but you aint either

Matt J

So it`s you who has the depression.


whosyadaddy


Call me a cunt again ,and i will be" your daddy "

Its all about opinions ,i know some fucker who is diagnosed "depressed" dont stop the fooker working all the time and claiming.

Note the words"Opinions"they are mine if you dont like the answers dont put it on a public forum.

 

depression is not just feeling down and moody when it gets you it takes control and affects youre whole state of mind.

I know this from experience believe me.

People who have not suffered this illness will never understand how bad it really is!!!.

 

how do you prove your in severe depression then??


how do the doctors diagnose it and how can you have 6 months off with it>?>>

 

i think it's called the beuford scale or soemthing

they were going to get rid of one of the guys at work due to him having had 55 days off sick in one year but then they busted him with some weed in his van so job done

but there are 2 others who have also been given "unofficial" warnings regarding their absences

so, if you don't know what the company rules are, then don't guess

me on the other hand, i was off for 7 weeks with my kidneys and they didn't say a word, but i could work from home so even though i was being paid sick money, i was still "working"
he was a driver and was going out and getting pissed and then not coming in the next day

as far as i am aware, they won't "sack" you, they'll just "let you go" so find out what the rules are for sickness
with our company they pay you for 20 days "at their descretion" so if you were to have loads of days off sick, they just don't pay you regardless if you have a docrots note or not becuase that's in the contract and that's what they do
you soon come back if you aren't getting paid and can only claim ssp

of course, if you genuinly are sick for a long period of time and the company treats you like this then perhaps it's time to switch companies

 

Sick can be deemed as you not meeting the terms of your contract, i.e. you will show up at x address for 8hrs etc.

This makes a lot of sense If you look at it the right way, the threat of being sacked could be the nudge you need to go and find something else to have a go at for a while and see how it goes. No-one wants to employ someone who has been sacked for being off too long, so get on it!

 

righthooker

have you ever been diagonsed as depressed?

reason i ask is i have and i suffer badly from it

reason i suffer from depression so bad is my illness altough is a bit of a shit one messes me up mentally and physically

i havnt worked for 4 years now since being diagnosed and the hospital are just getting round it

when i did work i was off ill for just under a year as it started to kick in as i got my new job but i put up with it until i got so bad i couldnt work

thinking t would be a quick fix i kept sending in certifcates etc but i was on and off real bad

in the end i did get the sack even though 1 week before i phoned to say im coming back in, only reason they sacked me was beciase my sick note was a day late, the day before i was due back in

but that was my fault and i dealt with it

companies can sack you if you fdont provide medical certifcates from hospitals or doctors as this is the proof they need

i would love to go back to work but i carnt do shit at the minute and thats what really depresses me

you try and live off Ł180 every 2 weeks and cope with an illness that you carnt make plans to do anything as you dont know when your going to be ill or not so your better off staying in

this is when depression soon kicks in and its not very nice

 

err Nope. Not in this case maybe but "Gross Misconduct" is something you can be sacked for even if its your 1st offence.

Different companies have different guidelines on what constitutes GM though.

 

Depends who and where he works for - if its a local authority he should see the occupational health team too, maybe try counselling, also they should look at alternative work, the council dr can advise not to return to his post or sector etc therefore he would be "at risk" and get 26weeks notice in which the authority & himself should actively seek suitable work on a similiar pay scale blah blah If he works for bodgit & scarper forgot the above.

 

so your allowed an opinion but im not???
and as for you being my daddy

 

if you get caught pulling a "sickie" that's enough to get you the boot in most places to be honest
then again, the gross misconduct rules vary and something innocent might get you fired depending on who you are and what you do

one of the poles at the garage across the road went up to the manager and said "i work and work and work, today i no work, today i do like the rest and not work when you are not here" and the boss said "you don't work here at all, you're fired" and sent him packing

 

If your depression is work related why not just get another job? That's what most people do instead of sticking at something that puts them in a bad place.