...well, actually, its really just one big problem.

The cambelt has snapped and taken the engine out. ...car was recovered to a garage who have quoted £1500 to repair, but guy said that he'd forget the £300 recovery (3 miles, tops) and inspection charge and give the guy £300 for the car.

How much is the going rate for a replacement engine for these?

How much is the car worth in good working order again?? ...details are: Silver, 2003 '52' plate, great condition, 45k miles, history, full MOT, xenons, climate etc etc. Car was minor damage CAT D about 3 years ago, repaired by approved bodyshop and it is in brilliant order throughout.


Cheers,
Grant

 

my first post on here i sold my 172 in feb this year in silver 42k full sh etc on a 52 reg for 3400. no idea on the engine price sorry. gaz

 

Going by that i would pay £1000 for the car maybe less, break it you will make more money

 

PM Tankmike.

i think the garage would be chuffed to get hold of a 172 with a snapped cambelt so doubt theyre doing the guy a favour

 

Not that it probably makes a great deal of difference, but its a 53-plate car rather than a 52-plate. Also found out that the damage it sustained was front end, bumper, wing, few suspension parts etc... but like I said, its been repaired extremely well and drives (before engine went.. ) spot on too.

Jim, is TankMike a Renault breaker?

I totally agree, the garage are 100% absolutely trying to take the piss out of the guy (my gfs wee brother) who doesn't have the greatest of knowledge about cars/repair costs etc... saying things like "oooh, you'll be lucky to get £200 for it as a non-runner" to him. Which pisses me right off, don't like to see people taking a loan of others because they're not up to speed with stuff like this.


Cheers,
Grant

 

Engines seem to be anywhere from £600 £700 with about 50k on them. just got my belt done a couple of weeks ago as they are bad for snapping .Just checked mine on parkers and said it worth about £3300 private sale with 60k on it. Mine has 52k and no service as the guy that had it before me was a farmer and just serviced it himself.

 

You would break the car for more than £600 tell him to shove his deal

 

Car is worth IMHO £2200 with a working engine as it's cat d,prob about £2800 as a straight car.blown engine,£1000-1100.I'd say if he's happy with the car it's worth repairing IMHO,as posted if a lumps £700 a home mechanic could easily fit it or as a backstreet garage I wouldnt expect to pay more than about £150 in and out.

Might be worth getting the belt done while out as it's less labour for the mechanic so should save you a few bob.I'd guess,engine in/out,belt/tensioners etc done,plugs,oil,filters,coolant refill,exhaust gasket/paste should come in with parts about £400?

I'm not 100% on that but as long as the parts come in round £120 that's not bad business.

 

Makes the AA/RAC etc look very good value at £39 a year doesn't it for recovery.
tabetha

 

Flip eye,that's a shocker isn't it?I'd expect no more than about £80 for that,that's heavy as well,I'd have charged about £30 for that.

 

Woah the garage are having a laugh there!

 

Got to be worth a G in bits. Get it back and look for a head for it. Hopefully the bottom end is ok and it's just a case of fit the head, new gaskets, belts and tensioner job done.

Wonder how many heads are knocking about tho, nearly as bad as GTI-6's for snapping belts.

 

Thanks for the replies, breaking it might be the best option.. however, can't really see what prices of bits go for because I'm not a full member on Cliosport. That also means that I can't see if its worth repairing cause I dunno what sort of coin a replacement engine from the parts/breaking bit of forum will sting for either?! Surely 600quid isn't the going rate for an average Clio engine?

What sort of price do 2nd hand 172 parts go for?? Gearbox, Interior, Bodykit, Wheels, Xenons, Exhaust etc...

Apparently the garage have had the head off (charged around £240 for this..) and said that the engine is scrapped, me and one of my mates are going to take a look at the car and see if thats all true, cause it sounds like the garage is trying to rip the piss here and rob the poor guy.


Cheers,
Grant

 

I wouldn't let them have it out of principle lol.....blatantly trying to do the guy over if they're that keen to have it (no garage does you favours), if it's a good solid car then definately worth getting repaired! However, might be a bit of hassle sourcing parts etc and i'm guessing he's without a car in the mean time? Nightmare when something major happens to your car like that and you're not mechanically minded, gonna cost you either way sadly

 

have you actually worked on one of these?
i wouldnt remove and refit engine in one of these for £150 as a cash in hand job never mind through work.
also a cambelt kit alone is going to be a minimum of 100quid on these parts only then you have water pump etc.... then if alternator belt tensioner is knackered thats another £90 the list is endless mate allthough i do think the garage are trying it on

 

Cars is worth £2000 -£2500 on a car D no more.

Forget what people think they're worth its what someone will pay - I was looking a few weeks ago an can quite easily get a straight car for about the same money - I went to look at a 53plate one for £2200 but it was a bit tatty and I need a car for work.

The garage are having a laugh on the money they've quoted- £150 for recovery is fair depending on the time they came out and to whip the cambelt cover off and spot the belt is fucked £100 tops UNLESS they've took the engine apart - in which case you're fucked as it will take a while to do.

Breaking it aint an option as they dont break well - theres nothing worth any real money apart from the bumpers everything else is generic clio.

The seats are 10 a penny

The wheels are 10 a penny

The engine and management is the only bit worth any money and your engine is dead.

Tough call but I'd have it back off em for what you can negotiate £notes will speak volumes and take a grand for it on ebay and nothing less.

 

+1

Mike works on loads of them and knows all about secondhand engine prices on them etc.

 

there is an engine on cliosport now for £200

 

Thank fuck no,not the 172,done a few standard clios,16valves etc.as I said,I'm not 100% on the parts prices so maybe I'm a bit far off the mark.

 

That sounds about right from what ive seen in the past too

 

mate you dont want to either, i dread these coming into work as its always the old "well your good at these so you can do it" kind of thing! i hate being a mechanic at times

 

This is happening to so many of the clio 172 phase 2's. I know of two that it happened to in the last 4 months alone.. gotta ask why they are all breaking. I believe aux belt jumps of or snaps and then goes through the timing cover and then takes out the cam belt.

What a p1sh design

RW

 

Like the Vauxhall V6 in the vectra's. Tensioner bearing siezes then throws the belt off.

Problem being in most cases people listen to ford/Vaux/Renault and the likes and take for granted that a belt can last XX amount of miles.

Not sure if the OP has mentioned but as it had low mileage (under 50k) was the belt changed after 4 years?

 

The aux belt is a shit design with very little access to get the tensioner free,Thought most of the timing belt casings where made of ally

 

Steve

I've had a couple and a guy I know is a bit of a whizz on these things - all the cliosport lot suck him off big time ( Fred - nice guy he is aswell - he had one of my 172's off me )

It aint just ph2 its all of them as they run a pulley to diver the aux belt over the cross member.

Anyways - he looked at mine because it had a whine told me what it was - dephaser/diverter pulley - they go all the time and shred the aux belt which takes out the cam belt.

With the engine switched off you can get to it and if it rattles its fucked and needs changing but its a fucker of a job to do.

12 months later and it shredded the aux belt - I was lucky as I caught it before is scrapped the engine.

The belt is £8 the pulley is £50 ish - the biggest problem is the tensioner £100 ish) (which doesn't often fail ) as it needs a special tool to slacken etc to change the pulley and belt.

Renault say every 36k for aux belt/pulley and 72k for cambelt

Its very common - its like a Alfa Twin Cam - change the belt every 36k and you're mint don't and it'll scrap the engine unless you're LUCKY.

 

I tell you another shit job,alternator on a sport Ka,you near enough end up taking the front end off,four hours on and off according to autodata,yeah right!!!