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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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Some good replys on here,did anyone feel they could not ask for help because then you become reliant on that source/person to keep ya feeling ok?
yea i felt like i was dependant on my mate...
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
Suffered with it from the age of around 5 (life etc wasnt too great when i was a nipper)

Still suffer now really bad,

I wont take pills or get help i'll eventually figure it all out!
I thought that ref medication, but alas if i couldnt figure it out over my life of suffering to date then its unlikely to get sorted LOL..so meds it is!
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Maybe mate,

But i figured in some way that'll just make me weak or a weaker person :S
Yep thats how i felt, pride took over i thought no i cant take meds to live a life...then i hit rock bottom and contemplated suicide Thats when my Missus and mates said (yes said) you got to take the fucking medication you spastic mutherfucker(Nice!) but for once i saw there point i was at rock bottom what the hell did i have to loose! Even though the meds will most probably end up giving other probs down the line its better than being dead! Not looked back so far, even though i feel like a junkie, but if its good enuff for the famous its good enuff for me!
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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ellie what made you actually realise that you needed help?what gave inside to say thats it i can not cope and do this by myself?
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Also what was the turning point for all the people that posted on here?what changed in your lives/or what did you change to make to realise you dont have to live the way you were?
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yea i felt like i was dependant on my mate...

did it make you feel worse?or looking back is it the only way you could of pulled out of it?
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
I havn't hit one yet!!!

But i'll tell you something sat there with a knife on your wrist slowly slicing down feeling the blood drip of ya hand does sorta kick you up arse and make you realise! (For a while)

always here if ya need a chat john fella on msn or what ever
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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sometimes it can be the worse thing having too much time fella,you only need to give me a shout/nudge if you need to talk you know that fella
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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attempted suicide and a week in hospital and proper councilling sorted it out for me, bloody doctor just handed me pills which didnt help really just kept me on a level teetering on the brink waiting to go over, which with a push i went, get proper help is my advice before you hit rock bottom.
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
did it make you feel worse?or looking back is it the only way you could of pulled out of it?
if it wasnt for my mate/mates it would have been alot worse they was allways there for me taking me out and doing things and eventualy (sp) i got over it.
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Also what was the turning point for all the people that posted on here?what changed in your lives/or what did you change to make to realise you dont have to live the way you were?
Not sure I've been depressed, but I have felt very low, so I possibly suffered from a mild form of depression over a few months. The way I got out of it was to seriously focus on keeping busy, not giving myself time to think about whatever it was which made me feel bad about myself/my situation.

I've wanted to play rugby properly again for a while, but never took the required steps towards that, in fact with my lifestyle being the way it was.. I was actually moving further and further away from being able to play again.

So I've seriously focused on sacking off the takeaways and booze, and tried very hard to get into a routine of going to the gym and working on my fitness generally... pre-season training starts in July and so far I've lost just over 4 stone and still have a fair way to go before I'm able to play rugby at a proper level again, but I think I'll come on faster once the season starts and I'm able to work back into match fitness in the 2nd or 3rd team.

In addition to my fitness stuff, I've re-connected with old friends that I'd lost touch with and have found myself a lot of various things, places and people to see rather than being stuck in the same rut that I was before.

I'm not saying its easy because it definitely isn't an easy road to take.. as I said, I was probably at most in a 'mild depression' so for people who are deeper state than me it could well be that there are other things which need to change, or support which needs to be in place (councelling/medication) before you focus on doing the things I did.

All the best though, there are plenty people on here who are around to chat if you need it.. by all means ping me a PM and I'll chat to you if you see me online and you need a blether with someone.


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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
Suffered with it from the age of around 5 (life etc wasnt too great when i was a nipper)

Still suffer now really bad,

I wont take pills or get help i'll eventually figure it all out!
It's a common thing with mental illnesses. People would obviously seek help for cancer and follow the doctor's orders, and you'd take paracetamol for a headache, but people seem to avoid doing the same for mental illness until they hit rock bottom.

If you spot the early signs, seek help.

The Wakefield questionnaire gives you some idea of the signs of depression:

http://depression.about.com/library/...efieldquiz.htm

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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
I wont take pills or get help i'll eventually figure it all out!
No one is a mountain!!

Originally Posted by mechanic28
Also what was the turning point for all the people that posted on here?what changed in your lives/or what did you change to make to realise you dont have to live the way you were?
Maybe there is hope for the future yet? I dont really believe it yet but maybe i will one day.
Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
But i'll tell you something sat there with a knife on your wrist slowly slicing down feeling the blood drip of ya hand does sorta kick you up arse and make you realise! (For a while)
Depends really, as it can become addictive and you end up hurting your self loads.
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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what did you do warran?what made you realise that you have got to change ?maybe pushed someone away that you did not mean too?or did something just drop and you said to yourself enough is enough?
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 05:14 AM
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being in the mental hospital kind of told me things wernt good

But then i dont really know where im going. I pretend at life hoping I will get it in the end.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Char1ie
The Wakefield questionnaire gives you some idea of the signs of depression:

http://depression.about.com/library/...efieldquiz.htm

Charlie
Interesting/surprising results for me (some things could simply be put down to boredom or laziness though)
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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problem with a questionairre like that is its too vague. Those bunch of "symptoms" could be a multitude of physical/mental conditions!!
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Not a good day today lol!
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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Not a good day today lol!
whats up mate??? whats your msn add pm if ya want well have a chat.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Char1ie
It's a common thing with mental illnesses. People would obviously seek help for cancer and follow the doctor's orders, and you'd take paracetamol for a headache, but people seem to avoid doing the same for mental illness until they hit rock bottom.

If you spot the early signs, seek help.

The Wakefield questionnaire gives you some idea of the signs of depression:

http://depression.about.com/library/...efieldquiz.htm

Charlie
I agree, if you genuinly have depression (not just a bad day/week) then medication works. Personly I have suffered depression, and anixiety (bad) for years untreated. I have been through various states of it, and finaly seaked help a month or so ago. I haven't looked back, I'm on a ssri and I'm feeling so much better with everything.

CBT isn't helping, but the med is. Some people have an imballance in the brain, such as I do and meds have made me feel normal again.

I felt so, so low, and actually have a drink and drug problem from trying to mask my mental problems
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the meds versus therapy debate has been going on for years.

depends ultimately why your depressed. Some people its genetic caused, some people its life events, some people its current stress, and some a mix.

SSRI's just correct the chemical imbalance. fine if its genetic caused depression as its just a chemical imbalance that needs sorting, but generally or all other types of depression, meds dont solve the problem completely, you need to remove the stressors, deal with the issues or change your thinking patterns.
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I felt so, so low, and actually have a drink and drug problem from trying to mask my mental problems
I think that's pretty common.

I saw my bipolar mate last week who told me that he is snorting coke regulary. I asked how much and he told me a gram every second day when he's being good! Jesus. He reckons he'll take less once he gets into an upswing - when he starts feeling unrealsitically positive.

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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
problem with a questionairre like that is its too vague. Those bunch of "symptoms" could be a multitude of physical/mental conditions!!
It's not vague, it's a test for depression.


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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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well on a better note, I thought I would post to show others that there is life after depression.

Yesterday I got discharged from my counsellor at the psychology dept at the hospital ,

I been off anti depressants now for 5 months and Im quite proud of myself for diggin myself out of the hole I had got into.

Not sure what the future holds for me , but now I know I do have a future , 18 months ago I just could not see any point in getting up in the mornings
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I think it's vague too!

I scored 21 and certainly don't think I have depression! I may have one or two problems, but who doesn't.

Shite test IMO
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Caprigirl, Excellent news, well done

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I did one of those test just yesterday and it was compared to the one I did when I first started and the difference was amazing ,
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hi dougie its ade sorry to hear your not well when i was feeling pretty low i would jump into d33 and put my foot through the floor i would end up laughing my head off come on dougie get in d33 and put your foot down you will feel much dougie pm me anytime dougie get well soon adrian
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If d33 is a cossie, it will probably blow up and he'll feel worse still
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not sure what to make of anything anymore!
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Originally Posted by cossieprob
hi dougie its ade sorry to hear your not well when i was feeling pretty low i would jump into d33 and put my foot through the floor i would end up laughing my head off come on dougie get in d33 and put your foot down you will feel much dougie pm me anytime dougie get well soon adrian

hey adrian pleased you are well bud,still got to do some work on her yet fella will hopefully get her out soon
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If d33 is a cossie, it will probably blow up and he'll feel worse still

yes thats my 3 door
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yes thats my 3 door
Keep away from it then for fucks sake, you could go from upset to suicidal in one drive
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Keep away from it then for fucks sake, you could go from upset to suicidal in one drive

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They are just a big lump of emotional pain with a whaletail
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Originally Posted by Chip
They are just a big lump of emotional pain with a whaletail

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Suffering from this myself for the past ten years on and off,have done counselling and medication but not taken anything for it for a few years and just battled through it.The big 'D' sufaced with me again last week which i seeked help with straight away from the doc.Yesterday felt the lowest i've ever been,really struggling at the moment
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