as above 225 40 18
dont suggest camskill - in the middle of a nightmare trying to get 1 from them

 

Ring challenger at Handsworth and ask to speak to Adam he probably sort you one.

 

Don't bother mate, piss poor tyre. My ex nearly wrote off my last A4 after fitting a pair. I threw them out after only a few weeks use and fitted the Continentals that I told her to get fitted in the first place

 

think its sorted now. just needed the 1 to keep matching pair. been ok tbh on my mondeo

 

A lot of people don't rate them but for an ordinary car I think they are good enough.

 

Got em on the mrs fiesta at and I love em. Better than the t1r toyos we had before.

There not the gripyest tire in the work but break away really smoothly.

 

I know tyres are very personal but you have to be kidding. I run the T1R and it humps the fuck out of the Nankang without a shadow of doubt in all conditions. I've done 3 sets now over the last 40,000 miles. Did about 2,000 on the Nankangs. They are to tyres what coarse sand is to vaginal lubrication.

 

Just look in the nearest ditch, rip em off one of the upturned cars in there


I dont know why people fuck around with shit tyres, they're the most important thing on the car along with the brakes.

 

The above, both points ^

 

My experience with them is that they are very hard and while they give you good grip in the dry, when they let go they really let go
And in the wet, it's not really worth pushing it

 

average budget tyre and not everyone has the cash to hand to buy toyo's/yokos etc and a lot of tyre choice decisions should also be based on how you drive your car, if you are a right pedal junky or run big power then they are not the tyre for you, but on a daily driver plodder I would fit them if I had too

 

I've got yokis on my weekend car,

But as said , there fine for the Dailey, quiet, there fine in the dry, bit loose in the wet. But for the money there cool.

I personally think t1rs are shit and wouldn't run then again. The noisy, don't last 5 mins a d you can feel the tread blocks shifting when pressing on. Total crap in the set aswell.

Let's not forget that the t1r is also a budget tire

 

I used crap like nankangs etc when I was young and couldn't afford much else, and although they certainly weren't as good as a premium brand tyre, they were perfectly safe enough for every day use!

 

As said for an average powered car for running around, don't see nothing wrong with them at all. People fit a lot worse!

 

aint that the truth

 

I really can comprehend that you all think shit tyres are ok because of the way YOU use them! It's generally other suburban road users that cause me to need to brake / steer sharply! What price safety?!

 

you say s**t, I have used them in the past without issue over a 12 month period in all weathers and never had a complaint, of course we all know theres way better tyres out there on the market and most command a equally impressive price too, I base my opinion on actual use rather than brand snobbery, I would rather have some of these fitted rather than driving around on illegal worn out quality ones because they say toyo or yoko on the side wall, if you dont like you dont buy as its not exactly rocket science

 

I had ns2's on my 540 which was driven hard, so thats a 1.75 tonne car with 300 hp and i never ended up in a ditch.
I had no problems untill hitting a pothole large enough to bend my wheel de laminated the inside tyre wall.
If you are blaming the tires fitted to your car for ending up in a ditch or having an incident i suggest you learn to take responsibility for your driving or lack of driving talent!!

 

Sorry mate, but as long as you defend a tire as poor as the Nankang I can't even begin to take your opinion on the T1R seriously. More so given the mileage I've put on them on and off track.

Yes I agree in full that the Toyo is a relatively budget tire. I stepped down to them from the Continentals I had used for years. If you're on a budget something like the Kumho KU31/7 would be a far more acceptable choice.

As I've already said my ex nearly totalled my old A4 after fitting a pair of Nankang NS2's. She gave me no end of shit before the very near miss about how I was wasting money wanting the Contis on it as the garage recomended these at a fraction of the price. She had to wind her neck right in as I "wasted" another Ł260 on a pair of Contis removing the 2000 mile old "perfectly acceptable" Nankangs.

You only have one point of contact with the road, why on Gods name fit shoddy crap. If it's a daily there's all the more reason for fitting a tyre of good quality. Steering, accelerating and stopping are all vital in day to day driving.

 

Fucking lol at brand snobbery, I read plenty of tests and information out there and have no problem with brands

If you can't afford decent tyres then get a cheaper car IMO I have 17" wheels and the tyres that won evo's tyre test this year cost me Ł102 a corner

Money well spent when you see the difference in braking capability etc

Some of us have different attitudes to safety, it's as simple as that

 

I'm not defending them, but for My run to work there fine.

As I said I usually run contis or yokis on my toy.

And I found that the contis I ran before, had more grip in the wet than the t1rs I removed did in the dry.

178Ł for 4 205/40/17 will do me fine for my Dailey hack. Especially when some thing actually decent is over double that. I'm sorry mate but I'd put t1rs in the same category as the ns2.

Got budget and cheap, or if you want a decent tire it's conti or Michelin all the way

 

You're not defending a cheap and nasty tyre.... but you're saying they're quite ok for a car that you do lots of miles in throughout the year in all conditions. I just don't get the logic there.

Words fail me

As for Contis being better in the wet than the Toyos in the dry... Sorry mate but that's utter, clutching at straws crap. I ran back to back from Conti's to the Toyo. Dry weather grip the Toyo performed far better in the dry than the Contis. In the wet the Contis were better to a point that could be noticed

 

I have to agree with the comments about these nankangs being shit. Even if you drive like miss daisy in an old 106 they are still shit!

My colleague bought a new set of alloys for his mondeo (pretty average family car you will all agree) and these came fitted as standard. Within a few months on a motoway run with wife and 2 kids (2 year old and 8 month old) doing 70mph one of the blew out and almost put them in the barrier! I've heard more horror stories like these with these tyres and would not touch them with a barge pole. Is it really worth risking your life over say Ł30 saving per tyre. Get mid range tyres at least not shit budgets!

 

thing is phil blowouts can happen on any tyre brand, a mate on way to ford fair had a blowout in has saph cos on M40 as most of those heading from london saw, his tyres were expensive name brands too, Im not defending nankangs its the principal that I am defending, most that have a poor opinion on budget tyres have never actually used them or are in a position to afford higher quality ones, or jump on the bandwagon of those that slate them even though they have never used them

 

A tyre blowing out is nearly always down to incorrect inflation, hammering it over those speed humps in the middle of the road, sidewall damage from being unable to park next to kerbs properly etc, very rare is it due to the fact it's a budget tyre.

 

As much as I don't want to let the Nankang off you are absolutely correct. I am yet to see a tyre failure that's not actually down to the driver.

 

I recently had to buy some Hero HZ1's (Ł65 fitted per corner) when i used to run Falken f425's (~Ł95 per corner) and to be frank they Hero's run as well in dry and nearly as well in wet as the falkens, and my old vrederstein sportrac's on 15"s wiped the floor with both them in the wet. So you could get these as an alternative (got them from Ford of all places)

Whilst my car only has 90bhp (atm), i do cane it round corners and i've not fallen off the road. you just need to know your own/the cars limits and drive accordingly.

 

Another person who doesn't sem to realise its OTHER PEOPLE who cause you to need your tyres not the way you drive

 

Really? Hahahah, you really believe this. Wow, just wow. How does this theory work then? Please do tell, as i must be as thick as pig shit. As unless your causing someone else to crash into you (by braking hard in front of someone, putting yourself in unnecessary danger or just driving like a knob) then how does your choice of tyre affect if some else crashes into you? (Being serious, if you can explain why, instead of just going "HURR DURR, 'CAUSE DEM BUDGETZ, NOT PREMIUM BRANDZ", then i might change my point of view)

But back on topic, Try mytyre.com or http://www.oponeo.co.uk/ if OP is still after tyres.

 

Because other people cause you to swerve and brake so yes you must be as thick as pigshit as you suggested. If you don't understand how comparably poorly 'budget' tyres perform I suggest you educate yourself then rejoin the discussion.

Like I said above some people have different attitudes to safety

 

I've never been in a situation whereby the tyres are to blame for a crash for not being sufficiently grippy enough. Chances are if you are travelling at speeds where an unforeseen obstacle obstructs your path and caused you to swerve sharply, even the best rubber can't defy the laws of physics and coefficient of friction.

Also, I think calling them a death trap is a little unfair as they are legal to fit on any car and as I said above, people fit and run a lot worse.

 

ive got nangkangs on my sierra, brilliant in the dry but you dont stand a chance in the wet sadly

 

Your arse seems a lil sore, you buthurt? What up with all this pent up anger? Just because someone disagrees with you opinion on the internet you go all out rage mode on them? you'll continue to make me laugh, just because your stuck in your ways on unwilling to shift.

I do know that there are some real shitty budgets like PACE and other brands that are cheap as shit and handle just so, but like everything there are exception to the rule, but your blinkers seem to be preventing you from seeing this.

Just like everything in life most things boil down to subjective opinions and due to that it clouds any objective thinking.

 

Well I have been in plenty of incidents where good tyres have helped save a collision, usually people pulling out of blind junctions in the wet or kids running into the road from between cars.

If you can't understand that tyres that steer, grip and clear water better ARE safer then really you ought not be allowed near a car.

IMO anything that reduces the risk of injuring somebody is worth the comparatively small expense

Nothing will ever change my mind about it, as I said, I care, some other people dont

 

I don't see any anger, you suggested you were as thick as pigshit not me!

And there is no subjectivity, there Is plenty of information on the performance of tyres available which prove beyond doubt which ones brake and steer better!

 

Now yes i do agree with getting a good set of tyres will help with saftey, but what I'm trying to get a cross is that good tyres doesn't necessary mean expensive tyres.

 

Also for the record, I run ContiSport3's on my ST and won't run anything else!