I'm not defending them, but for My run to work there fine.

As I said I usually run contis or yokis on my toy.

And I found that the contis I ran before, had more grip in the wet than the t1rs I removed did in the dry.

178£ for 4 205/40/17 will do me fine for my Dailey hack. Especially when some thing actually decent is over double that. I'm sorry mate but I'd put t1rs in the same category as the ns2.

Got budget and cheap, or if you want a decent tire it's conti or Michelin all the way