im looking to start on the jabs soon i havent done it before so im after advice really from people who have as the net has so many different opinions on it! From what i have read i was thinking deca durabolin any thoughts also any one know a good place to get some and how long i should do it for im 31 im 11st and ive been doing the gym for about a year and a half i eat well do lots of protien but im one of these who can not for the life of me put on size and strength so jabs is the way for me i think

 

I'm sure you can put some size on with the correct training mate... Post your regime and diet first, and see if you can put some on without the gear is my advice.

Benni.

 

i eat brown bread 2 slices with 2 eggs for breakfast fryed i know lol i have tuna sandwiches for lunch x4 its hard to eat well at work to be honest then for dinner ill mostley have chicken rice or pasta but things do go off key at week end food wise i must admit. Gym wise i go mon wends fri sat ill do an arms night and so on with chest sholders and back i do sets of 6 x 3 or 4 depends how stronge i feel as heavy as i can i do two protin shakes a day one in the morning and one as im leaveing the gym to be honest i dont think my routine is that bad really i have got a bit bigger and stronger but im one of these people who just dosent put weight on if i stop going too the gym i lose a stone as quick as!

 

Being Blunt, Your diet is SHITE.

Your not growing as you simply aint eating enough.

Without even seing pics of you its obvious your miles away from being ready for steroids.

They aint no quick fix mate and not to be jumped into.

Get yourself onto http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/index.php and get reading.

 

u say that but i got from 10.2 to 11 and thats loseing some with dianabol but im not doing any more tabs i know my diet isent great but its hard when u work 7 till 6 all week then half of saturday i carnt fit in 4 to 6 meals a day i just dont have the time

 

Then you dont have time for steroids either mate, its not a quick fix and without the proper diet the gains would be pointless and not worth while.

 

well like i say im after advise and other peoples opinions so thanks for yours ill bear it in mind but like i say i put a stone on with dianabol and got stronger that was about 7 mounths ago now

 

Yea you would have put on a stone of water weight NOT Muscle mate.

You got stronger as you was heavier due to water retention thus making you stronger.

Not Real Gains.

Plenty people will give you advice (me included) but its all going to be the same and aimed at a Proper diet and training before going down the steroid route.

Brad

 

7 mounths ago went from 10.2 too 11.8 now im 11.2 11.1 and i dont think i train that bad too be honest diet yeah ill give u that one but ive said why

 

You can cook things like chicken and rice and throw it in a tupperware box and throw it down you at work. I have to do it at college, in my 15 minute break. OK, It's cold and it's not the nicest of things, but it does the job.



Benni.

 

I know it's hard to get meals in while at work (I'm a roofer)
Look at meal replacement shakes on myprotein, to have while at work between breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Deca is not a good choice either as a stand alone med. It is very good at building mass, but as said above if your not eating it's a total waste of time and money.

 

You're diet is terrible and tbh it doesnt sound like you train very well either.

So you've already been on dbol and you're 11st and only training for 1.5 years. You're the typical gym goer. Wanna gret big without putting the effort in.

 

can i train harder than 40mins to an hour every other night on a set muscle group? lol and thats while still haveing a life i dont think theres anything wronge with the way i train diet yes but like i say im after advise and im only trying to get stronger and put on maybe a stone and a half im not trying to look like arnie mate!

 

How the fuck would you know how he trains? You've not see him training. People are too quick sometimes to assume other people aren't dedicated or train poorly.


Benni.

 

TBH Brad said it in 1 m8 your diet is poor.Eat at minimum double what your eating just now and you will grow.Everybody has it hard eating around work but many of the biggest guys on here manage it without steds so thats not an excuse

A good friend of mines who at a guestimate is prob 20stone and approx 14% bodyfat works 12 hour shifts eats like there is no tommorrow and trains like a bull says and i quote 'eat till you puke then eat some more'

 

Look in post #3 you fat retard. He vaguely touches on how he trains and it doesnt sound very clever.

 

how dose it not sound very clever then lol i go every other day so i have rest days i do 40mnis to an hour on a set muscle group i.e arms/ back/chest and so on. So how can u say my training isent very clever then mate? have u seen me train what do u do thats different ill agree with my diet.Im just one of these people who dosent put weight on i eat like a horse and have been 10ish stone for the last 12 odd years same as my brother sister mum and dad the diet i put up is the main bits i eat as a rougth idea

 

You say you train 4 days, chest, shoulder, back and arms? What about legs and abs? Also you seen pretty small and skinny so why after only a year and a half training are you doing 6 x 3 or 4?

ps. you dont eat like a horse

 

i do abs on an arms night and dont do that much on legs to be honest but i do, do squats on my back night or mix it in with arms i do sets of 6 in stead of 8 so i can lift as heavy as i can say if im benching with the dumb bells i can do 3 sets of 6 with the 28s but if i do sets of 8 then i carnt do the last few on the last set and im always eating mate maybe not the right food but always eating the diet i put up was a general idea of what i do for breakfast lunch and dinner mate

 

I was only trying to help but if you're convinced you're training and eating well you charge on and keep doing it.

 

dont get me wronge i see wear your comeing from and im going to start looking into my diet and work something out i just dont think its what im doing in the gym thats the problem theres lots of guys out there who use gear without a good diet too! like i say im just looking to chat to people who have been there and done it

 

Hi mate before you try steroids there are some other options ?
from your posts i assume you want to bulk up
first of all i would recommend focusing on compound exercises (benchpress/squats/deadlift)
try and do 2 of these exercises per workout and finish on maybe some arms/shoulders/stomach/lats.
heavy squats can increase your strength and size up to 15% over time

Also try changing your protien drinks met-rex is the best ive found .
if you have the can afford it i would have a protein drink 3 times a day
morning/post workout/before bed .

and dont be afraid to eat fatty foods burgers/pizza/chips/icecream you sound like you have a very fast metabolism so you need to stuff your face at every oportunity .

and try to think longterm theres no such thing as a quick fix if you want to get big/strong it takes a long time.

hope i havent been 2 annoying lol