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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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driveing tonight around 9@20 on a duel carageway came up to some traffic light which was on red.there is a blue fiesta in the right hand lane ,and behind him is a cop car ,we all stop at the light.the lights change to green .i move off then the fiesta and the cop car the speed limit is 40 mph there is speed cameras on this strech of road,i went trough the cameras doing dead on 40 ,the fiesta was about a car lenght in front of me ,still in the right lane followed by the cop car,i.maintain my speed ,i notice that the fiesta was slowing down so i caried on in the left lane ,we aproched a second set of lights,then i notice the cop car who was in the right lane behind this feista came into my lane as we went trough the second set of lights ,i saw the dreaded blue light,so i stop at a safe suitable place ,i wound my window down,a young copper came to my car,he said to me the reason he stop me was because one of my brake lights was out ,and the second reason he stop me was because i over took the feista,i thank him for telling me my brake light was out ,but then this copper is trying to tell me that when i over took this fiesta i was doing 50,so i said no i was not doing 50 ,and if i was doing 50 those cameras would have gone off ,then they told me that i add no insurance ,i told them that i paid my insurance last friday the 13th he said its not showing up on the system so iam there explaining to him that i,am insure ,i also told him who i was insure with,then fuking 3more cop car came and suround me like i was some big time criminal by this time i was getting a,bit pissed off ,then a coky copper .who turn out to be a sergant,started to be funny with me asking me ,how much i payed for my insurance ,so i said to him thatis my business how much i payed ,then this geazer treatened to arrest me ,i said to him arest me for what ,what i payed for my insurance its my business
so he said right iam going to seezed your car cause you refused to cooperate ,so they phone for tow truck and took my car ,now its going to cost me£150+20 a day to get car back rant over
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 11:26 PM
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they will inform you that you will go to court for the non insurance

dont tell em owt then on you day in court take you insurance and recipt for the car and they will pay you there and then


if the case is dropped for insurance you are then not able to get the money back by easy means also keep reciepts for bus or cab etc

i used to be the guy who picked up your car

coppers do it all the time, if the database says no your car is gone even if you have a cover note as they say its a fake note

people used to come in next day with docs goin nuts
they paid but if they went to cop shot it was dropped but they still already paid if they took it to court it got thrown and their money refunded but i think some people went all out and got days pay etc


the ones who had it plenty (like traders policy without reporting the cars with the insurance- which you are sposed to do!!)


lots of em never turned up and we crushed the car mind
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 11:27 PM
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That's a bit shitty, I'd be putting in a complaint! Dig out you're insurance certificate and take it to the cop shop tomorrow (assuming u had badge number of the sergeant at least?) and demand you're car be released before you go to the IPCC
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badge number will be on his ticket BUT they will say they had to because of bla bla no proof of insurance bla bla

because that is the facts

they wont get him his money back from the cops
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That's a bit shitty, I'd be putting in a complaint! Dig out you're insurance certificate and take it to the cop shop tomorrow (assuming u had badge number of the sergeant at least?) and demand you're car be released before you go to the PCC
Does anyone knowwhere i stand I renewed my insurance over the phone on the 13th so this information wasnt on the database so surely the insurance company are liable?????
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I got stopped one day on m4 thought he was gonna do me for speeding. i was doing 110 when the lights came on
got a bit of a surprise when he said iv stopped you as your car shows up no insurance.
After 45 minutes in the back of his car it turns out my insurance company hadn't put the correct details into the police data base. my last 3 are pyj. they put it in as pjy. after a few calls and i had shown copper my certificate (luckily i carry mine with me, 22 and an st i get stopped often)
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I got stopped one day on m4 thought he was gonna do me for speeding. i was doing 110 when the lights came on
got a bit of a surprise when he said iv stopped you as your car shows up no insurance.
After 45 minutes in the back of his car it turns out my insurance company hadn't put the correct details into the police data base. my last 3 are pyj. they put it in as pjy. after a few calls and i had shown copper my certificate (luckily i carry mine with me, 22 and an st i get stopped often)
Soon on my way with no mention of speed
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Always carry the certification if not that an emailed one. always certificate not cover note!
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 11:46 PM
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had a similar thing happen to me a few years ago, turned out it takes the police data base about 2 weeks to get up dated.... or so i was told anyway!
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had a similar thing happen to me a few years ago, turned out it takes the police data base about 2 weeks to get up dated.... or so i was told anyway!
Copper told me it was updated every day. as a few uninsured tossbags use that method to get a producer and then fuck off. now adays that computer knows everything
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 11:52 PM
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A certificate is not proof you have insurance, for example; people take out policys, cancel a few days later and keep their certificates.

There is a database that the Police use to check if a car is insured, often they know even before they stop you.

I watch Police Interceptors btw

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Always carry the certification if not that an emailed one. always certificate not cover note!
i would ,but i have not recived it as yet ,i cant get my hat on ,that fuking sergant treatened to arrest me,just because ,he ask me how much i payed for my insurance,and i did,not tell him
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Originally Posted by Turboboy67
A certificate is not proof you have insurance, for example; people take out policys, cancel a few days later and keep their certificates.

There is a database that the Police use to check if a car is insured, often they know even before they stop you.

I watch Police Interceptors btw

i here ,what you are saying mate but thats not me ,i have always add insurance on all my cars i ave owened
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 12:13 AM
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Tricky one. i understand where everyone is coming from. but... well I'm unsure on how the law works.
all i know is when ever i got stopped especially with an old calibra i owned for about 2 weeks that had a previous owner that wasn't as law abiding as the rest of us, to have all documents when pulled made every 100 times easier and the coppers were much more relaxed
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man .i could what was happneing tonight that cocky sergant was goding me to see if i would take the bate,it did not need 3 cop cars + the ones who stoped me to take my car,and further more ,copper said they can take me to court for dengerous driving,so iam thinking in what way was i driving dangersouly ,iam in the left lane makeing normal progress,sticking to the speed limit,minding my own and this shit happened,well what can i say
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Where abouts in the midlands?
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fing a38 bristol rd mate between the fire station and priary road by the cricket ground
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Erm coppers ring up your insurance company if you tell them you have inaurance and its not on the datbase.. Did they not do that? Ps moat insurance companies state o the policy not to be used as proof of insurance if impounded.. So geting your car out of impound can be hard.
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
Erm coppers ring up your insurance company if you tell them you have inaurance and its not on the datbase.. Did they not do that? Ps moat insurance companies state o the policy not to be used as proof of insurance if impounded.. So geting your car out of impound can be hard.
They did that to me once and problem solved, but no good if it's out of hours.
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Thats a bit a shitty story, what car was it?
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Erm coppers ring up your insurance company if you tell them you have inaurance anId its not on the datbase.. Did they not do that? Ps moat insurance companies state o the policy not to be used as proof of insurance if impounded.. So geting your car out of impound can be hard.
I told them who i insure the car trough,i told them the name off the broker,but ii could not rember the name of the company .they did ring ,or pretend to ring ,cause around 5 minutes later i heard someting come over their radio about insurance,but i could not make out what they said .all i know is they was determining to take the car or me in as that cocky sargent said to me ,he can aress me for upstruction ,cause i refused to answer is question about how much i paied for my insurance
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I keep copies of all our documents in the glove box.

Last time we got pulled (three years ago now!) just handed the lot over, copies of lisense, mot and insurance. We were on our way after one min.
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
Erm coppers ring up your insurance company if you tell them you have inaurance and its not on the datbase.. Did they not do that? Ps moat insurance companies state o the policy not to be used as proof of insurance if impounded.. So geting your car out of impound can be hard.
THEY SHOULD RING YOUR INSURANCE NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT. i had my car siezed went to the police station within the hour and produced but they wouldnt release my car untill following day. the police said if they were wrongly seizing the car they would refund my money. they didnt. take it to court you will get your money refunded by the court, but make sure all your details are correct.
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THEY SHOULD RING YOUR INSURANCE NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT. i had my car siezed went to the police station within the hour and produced but they wouldnt release my car untill following day. the police said if they were wrongly seizing the car they would refund my money. they didnt. take it to court you will get your money refunded by the court, but make sure all your details are correct.
these coppers did not give me the time of day ,if i was a bloke in a suit ,they would have followed him home to look at is insurance
i rang my insurance ,they are telling me .to take my certificate to the cop station,and demand in a nice way ,to release my car without ,paying £150 because my car was insured ,and it sometimes it takes around two weeks for it to go on their system
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Not being funny mate but your opening post it sounds like you were being difficult with them and if you speak how you've typed in this thread you'd have probably got my back up if I was trying to deal with you at the roadside.

You have insurance and you have the documents. If you'd answered the coppers question of how much you had paid for cover you may have found they would have dealt with you differently as it would have shown you were attempting to comply with their request.

When dealing with the police I have always adopted the friendly and treat them on the same level as myself approach and as a result I have seen myself walk away without points, fines or anything else, sometimes when to be fair I really did deserve it.
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I was pulled by traffic in my Sapphire and the car came back as uninsured,this was 6 months into the policy.I explained who with,when and how I paid because it was out of hours and they were unable to check.Ok I got pulled for going a bit quick off a roundabout but just being polite to the two women officers served me well seeing as they were going to impound my car.I was told as they would contact the i/company the following day and if all was well thats the end of the matter.If it transpired as I was uninsured they would come to my home address and seize the car.
The moral of the story is "bite your tongue and cooperate" easier said than done sometimes though if they are being arsey. Check yourself on askmid to see if your car is on there.
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The moral of the story is "bite your tongue and cooperate" easier said than done sometimes though if they are being arsey.
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The BEST way to piss off a copper is by refusing to co-operate.
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Not being funny mate but your opening post it sounds like you were being difficult with them and if you speak how you've typed in this thread you'd have probably got my back up if I was trying to deal with you at the roadside.

You have insurance and you have the documents. If you'd answered the coppers question of how much you had paid for cover you may have found they would have dealt with you differently as it would have shown you were attempting to comply with their request.

When dealing with the police I have always adopted the friendly and treat them on the same level as myself approach and as a result I have seen myself walk away without points, fines or anything else, sometimes when to be fair I really did deserve it.
mate i was not been difficult with them at all,i was just standing up for my self,the copper who pulled me ,claimed i overtook the car which was in the right hand lane,at 50mph and that he can do me for dangerous driving,i just said to him .how can i overtook him when the highway code states that you drive in the left lane (which i was doing) and the right hand lane is for overtaking or turning right ,and then when that cocky sergant came over to me ,fucking telling me ,did i not see you on crime watch a couple of months a go ,trying to be funny with me, but i kept cool mate ,and as for how much i paid for my insurance i said thats private really,he was just been an ass mate ,may be some of you think i was been an ass as well.but i dont like nobody talking to me like shit ,cause i dont do it to them,copper or no fuking copper ,respeck is the name of the game in my eyes mate


any way i got car out of the pound ,but iam £150 out of pocket ,which iam going to claimed back
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i am confident that had you dealt with the police in a sensible and polite matter they would have dealt with this at the roadside.They could have called your insurance company to confirm you had insurance but by the sounds of it your non cooperation caused them to follow the book.
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i am confident that had you dealt with the police in a sensible and polite matter they would have dealt with this at the roadside.They could have called your insurance company to confirm you had insurance but by the sounds of it your non cooperation caused them to follow the book.
mate ,honestly lastnite i ad my girlfriend with me ,and i tried my best to cooperate with them.i told them ,who my brokers was ,but i could not remember who my insurance company were
i gave them the number for them to ring ,and i was been very polite with them,but they came with the intension to take my car ,no matter if i was polite or not,you know when your face dont fit
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Honestly mate it boils my piss with these type of cops fukn hate them all,and yes I'm speaking from experience if you are insured you will get your release fee back.
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Honestly mate it boils my piss with these type of cops fukn hate them all,and yes I'm speaking from experience if you are insured you will get your release fee back.
thanks mate ,got car out couple hours a go,just need to get my £150 back now
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I havn't read all the replies, but have to say that fucking sucks, and is the very reason that in my eyes all cops are fucking arseholes. never meet a nice one in my life. There all jumped up pricks.

Oh, and i've never in my 36 years been in trouble with the police or arrested, just cant stand the pricks

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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Not being funny mate but your opening post it sounds like you were being difficult with them and if you speak how you've typed in this thread you'd have probably got my back up if I was trying to deal with you at the roadside.

You have insurance and you have the documents. If you'd answered the coppers question of how much you had paid for cover you may have found they would have dealt with you differently as it would have shown you were attempting to comply with their request.

When dealing with the police I have always adopted the friendly and treat them on the same level as myself approach and as a result I have seen myself walk away without points, fines or anything else, sometimes when to be fair I really did deserve it.
Its non of thier business how much his insurance was as long as he is insured.

I have told the police the same when stopped for speeding tho they couldnt prove my speed and were trying to get me to admit i was speeding years ago being 19 in my ST170 that it was non of his business how much it was.

Got a producer tho, showed my documents and away i went.
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Originally Posted by daviddunlop83
Its non of thier business how much his insurance was as long as he is insured.
Given that he couldn't name his insurance company, than at least if he could quote a realistic price paid for insurance he may have kept his car.

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Its never fair to say all cops are this and that but sometimes they can seem to just ignore your politeness and walk all over it. Generally speaking ime cops have been fair just one sticks out in my mind to the point i so nearly said to him take the fookin car i,m going home lol .
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been pulled over for no insurance asked them what was wrong they said i was uninsured and said i'm certian i am managed to get my mum to read them the details over the phone of my policy then on my way but it was cause my reg was wrong on the insurance
been pulled over in the works van for being on the phone i told exactly that i was on it apologised and all but he seemed he'd rather give me a ticket so i asked him why do you see it fit to use the hard shoulder to pull me over as if a emergency vehicle came down before you pulled me you would of been committing a offence i got no answer grade a twat. wrote a nicely worded letter stating his numbers saying that this officer was driving illegally in the hard shoulder
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Sounds like it couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke. Wind your neck in
Old Jan 19, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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as a few have said, if you had co opperated and answered all the questions, you would have drove off with out an issue.

they asked you a few questions and you didn't/couldn't answer them with the details, they may have assumed you had no insurance, and your lack of information would have just confirmed what they thought.

regardless of whats wrong with your car/ documents, if you pass the attitude test you have a good chance of getting away with the odd thing.
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It's all about attitude in these situations.
He has asked how much you paid for your ins to gauge your reaction and use it to help decide if you are really insured, you failed the atitude test on that particular point.



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