IGN released their reviews today for the PS4

IGN -

COD Ghosts - 8.8

Fifa 14 - 9.1

NBA 2K14 - 8.9

Flower - 9.5

Contrast - 7.5

Resogun - 9

Knack - 5.9

Killzone Shadow Fall - 8

Assassin's Creed 4 - 8.5

 

Well found out this today..

Forza 4: 26 circuits 400 cars
Forza 5: 14 circuits 200 cars.
"Turn 10 places an emphasis on quality over quantity for its next-gen debut.
Casualties include Suzuka, Infineon Raceway and, perhaps most notably, the Nurburgring and its famously torturous 12.93 mile long Nordschleife configuration."

 

probably falling into the routine of dlc. Fucking disgusting the way things are turning. Seeling unfinished games, then charging you the same again for the rest of it. They wonder why people complain that single player is shit nowdays. Like in mortal kombat,streetfighter etc. You would complete the game to unlock extra characters etc.....now they just sell them to you month after month. I hate the dlc era. Next inline is this so called free to play bollocks. That is all about getting money through kids in my eyes. totally wrong

 

why is killzone only an 8 and cod ghosts 8.5!! Is killzone that bad???? or is the score for ghosts wrong?

 

danneth have you got a link to that info please mate?

 

They said its not a dlc ploy. 50 cars coming for dlc over 6 months and that's it. My guess that they couldnt keep the 60fps @1080 with a track as big as the ring.

However, you couldn't be more wrong about free to play. PC has had free to play games for years, like planetside 2, team fortress 2, warframe. These are not "pay to win". Like with team fortress, they give you the game for free then you can spend the money on personalising your character and the weapons he uses etc.. however, you don't have to do this. I have a friend who has put several hundred hours into playing team fortress and he's actually made money by selling unique items he's picked up in the game through the steam store.
Warframe spending real money is just to cut corners and unlock things quicker. However, its a co-op shooter so there is no need to be the best.

I've played alot of warframe and planetside 2 without spending a penny

You shouldn't compare game scores to one another. A games score is based on how well the game achieves what its trying to do, not what's it like compared to something similar.
Just watched a killzone quick look. From the guys playing, poor story, dull level design and beyond dreadful AI. The only reason it'll get any praise is because its the only AAA game ps4 owners will have to play for 3-4months.

 

hmmm 50 cars....... i dont believe that. They were chucking out car pack dlcs like it was going out of fashion on forza 4. Why would larger courses cause framerate issues? surely framerate is more to to with what is on the actual screen at any one time, rather than how long the tracks are?

Yeah i know you dont have to spend money, but they know you will. Honestly, my kids spend load of money on the "free to play and indie games". They wont be talked into buying a "proper" game either lol. They feel they need it these bits and bobs because their friends have it........I suppose the game creators set their trap on kids as it works alot better. Its just sad how many game creators focus on how much money they can get,rather than just make a great game which inturn would make them alot of money.if that makes sense.

As for comparing games scores on each other, that wasnt what i was getting at. I was aiming at how cod ghost is just....cod. Not really any different, yet still got a high score.Even though most reviews havent been great, yet all you have had for the last couple of months for sony fans is " killzone killzone killzone" 1080p 60fps yet all it got was an 8. Not that 8 is bad,but considering ghost is poor, yet killzone didnt achieve as much. I dont think cod achieved anything,apart from good sales.


killzone doesnt seem to be the great game it was meant to be. looks nice, plays ok, and AI takes a second to work out it has to shoot you and not the wall it just shot at lol

 

Because the track is much larger. More frame work, more textures, more detail, it's so much bigger then any other track so larger draw distances etc. Think of it like a battlefield map compared to a cod map.

As I said, I've played loads of free to play games without spending a penny. There is no catch. Peer pressure is not a fault of the games*developers.
Some people gladly pay for items in the game, but you are not forced to.

 

Doesnt look good for sony so close to launch. There have been numerous people who recieved their consoles early in the states( competition winners etc) who have stated that their ps4 bricks when doing the os update. It becomes un brickable and the blue light on the controller turns white. Sony refuse to help them via support till friday on the official launch day. People are being asked to send the consoles back and wait 6 to 7 days for it to be fixed. Id be fucking pissed if that was mine. Not being able to play it on launch and being expected to keep the " refurbished console".

I hope sony sort their shit out because if a small number of complaints are out there now, it coyld get alot worse

Even yesterday sonys servers werent uo due to a few problems they were ironing out. I would of thought that would of been done along time ago....

Hold on to your seats boys, this could be bumpy lol

 

The guy reviewing for kotaku had to ask for another ps4 as the first one they sent out didn't work.

 

Apparently it seems like it is the update bricking them. Tgere are a few more reports of them having hardware issues. Somthing to do with the hdmi connection port.

Never really thought either company would have these sort of issues. After the history both companys have had you would like to think they would of ironed out all the problems.

Worried im gonna get problems with my xbox one now lol

 

Problems always have existed with launch day consoles, I don't think we have much to worry about personally most of it is posted and made to look good purely for traffic

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/...-to-calm-down/

 

hope so. Would hate to have a new console delivered only for it to brick. Could you imagine it. So excited to try it out.....lol it would end up being buried into the concrete floor followed by a hammer lol lol

Launch day problems i get, but Bricked useless consoles is a different kettle of fish. Its now been offically meantioned by sony( which in my eyes is quite worrying being the consoles arent even released yet) sony claim that only 0.04% of consoles may be affected.......fuck me, when they have over a million consoles already pre ordered........thats still a lot of consoles. Sony are dependant on getting as many units out the door as possible. Something like this can easily change the game.

As they day is going on there seem like more and more reports of the same thing.

Sonys pr have done a great job at playing the game, which in turn has made microsoft up theirs.. Would be a shame if it goes wonky. Especially as there will be millions of people outside usa watching the net,youtube etc on peoples thoughts,footage etc.

 

 

It would take some doing to get up to that sort of failure rate, you would hope things have moved on since then

 

Exclusive new trailer and announcement about METAL GEAR SOLID V with @hideo_kojima_en during #PS4ALLACCESS Thursday on Spike and online.

 

hmmm shame about metal gear solid. was hoping it would be something new. As chopshop said its a shame there isnt more original ips coming for next gen consoles.

I get the failure rate and everyone knows xbox was very bad with red ring,but that wasnt day one of console release. I dont recall reviewers asking for another xbox console as the demo one didnt work......

hopefully this is an odd one or couple of dodgy consoles. just makes you wonder if sony are addressing the issue. Sony would never want to give out the full info and like any big company, would try to hide something like this. For them to address the matter makes you wonder. Probably looking into it too far.....

 

Metal gear solid does look pretty different being set in a huge open real time world. However, after the disaster that was mgs4 it will no doubt be about 80% cutscene of some bullsh*t story that doesn't even make sense to the people that made it.

However, lack of games and teething issues is why I'm going to wait until I dable in the console business just yet.

I'm starting to be more interested in the PS4 so I thought I would look at that..
It has had around 100 games announced/hinted for 2014.
Around 15 are already out on PC
40+ are psn games
3 final fantasy's
and out of the remaining games there is only 6 that are console exclusives and they are all mid-late 2014.

 

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The xbox looks massive compared to the ps4 lol.

 

http://kotaku.com/good-news-about-ou...ps4-1464813671

 

I genuinely now do not know what one to buy! I was dead set PS4 but for a looks awesome and I'm worried xbox will win again

 

knowing you rob you will get both

 

PS4 is more powerful, I still believe it will always have the advantage in graphics/res no matter how minimal some people think it is.

XB1 looks to have a better UI and camera features imo

Does the extra Ł80-Ł100 matter to some people for a lesser specc'ed machine.

If your friends have the XB1 and you play online etc then it would make sense to go for that, however it it's just a choice of getting one of the new consoles and you don't want any particular exclusives of the XB1 then it's an easy decision it has to be the PS4

 

Just wait a while.
See if either has first run hardware issues, what the online on both is like, what games are coming out etc...

 

Yep as meantioned both have good and bad points. If you just want to play games.... ps4 is probably the best bet. More powerful, lots of little wacky games. If thats your thing.

Xbox live is/ was the best online experience. Havent seen and comments regarding ps4 online yet. Servers werent up pre launch for reviewers to comment ...

Most importantly down to if you like playing games with your mates, then yiu all need to get together and work out what you want.

As chopshop said...if after everything you have seen sonfar, then you are besr off waiting a bit and having a play on both.

I am 100% happy with what I have seen /played on xbox one.

Danneth is going for ps4 and I can see why he would.

Each to their own. Either way, both consoles will be amazing in their own ways and I doubt anyone wont be happy with their purchase...

 

decent read - http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/14/s...lshare_twitter

 

Excellent read ^^^

 

a few sites getting them up now - http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/15/5...ation-4-review

Nice to see the controller getting lots of praise, it was the first thing I noticed when playing it as well

 

Why on earth would they not use the touch pad for web browsing?! missed a trick there sony.

 

Bad news on the oculus front.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbo.../1100-6416153/

 

Read that the other day. To me it sounded like the dude was just trying to over hype it. Look a what stuff they have demo'd so far..every thing visually looks shit. Ps4 and xbox could easily run that stuff...shit, I would even say ps3 and xbox 360 could run most of it. If they are only aiming at one platform it will never be overly successful.silly move. Didnt like the way he said it would be upgraded every year. Whos gonna fork out money every year.
If sony develop one, it would have the potential to steal their thunder and sell more of them than the oculus.

The oculus has been in testing prototype stage for ages, so maybe they just dont have the backing and funds. Im not being funny, but it only takes over from your right stick on your controller with built in screens. Thats what everything has shown so far.

I cant see what is taking them so long. If they only aim at the pc market less developers with add the oculus to their games. Without the great games it will never be success

 

ok, you are completely misinformed on this one.

The dev model runs a 400p monitor, this is what they have been using and showing.
The actually release is going to be 1080p. 1080p rendering full 3d. There are games on both consoles already that can't even do 1080. Plus the display is split, so the two halves of the screen are rendering different things.

Also it has head trackers and motion sensors inside it, For example i've seen people playing first person shooters where the view point changes but the gun doesn't. The movement of where the weapon is pointing is dictated by the mouse. So for example you can shoot forward whilst looking over your shoulder. So its far more than just a replacement for the right analogue stick.
It is taking so long because VR technology on this level is new. There is so much to account for including removing any type of latency to the headset. Even the slightest hint of movement lag would make it pointless.

As for less developers on PC I do hope that is a joke. There are more driving sims, flight sims and FPS' on pc than both consoles combined.

Even two of the games you are most looking forward to (bf4 and titanfall) are both on PC.

 

Bad news? why on earth would you want to sit with one of those strapped to your face.

 

i get what your saying, but why does it need to be 1080p when the screens are so so small in the unit? it doesnt matter what is projected on a tv, infact it doesnt need to at all as that is just for viewers. That could be designed like 3d tvs when you can turn a 3d film/program to 2d. So it only shows 1 picture of the 3d.

never thought of the right stick like that....cheers for clearing that up, that makes sense.
I didnt mean less developers as such,everything is made via pc. what meant was there are more people with gaming consoles around the world than gaming pcs...... therefore its a big market.aiming at just pc's will never make it "high street" popular. You wont see it advertised on tv...therefore will never make massive profits.
There is a market for the product,no doubt.....i just think if sony make something very similar, put it on ps4.....then oculus will just be a memory(even if it is far better) as everyone would be talking about sonys vr headset.
I dont know a single person with a gaming pc, tell a lie,thinking about it, i know one. Yet pretty much everyone of my firends have either xbox360's on ps3's..... with most having more than one. i have 3 consoles in my house for me,my wife and my kids. lol

Its been prooven that hi res graphics dont make a game more immersive, so 1080p only matters a little, its the environment and the wat it reacts that makes a bigger impact in my eyes.

was watching a review on ac black flag. they played it on ps4 then played it on xbox 360. obviously its looked better on ps4,better animations etc, but they said after playing over half hour on xbox 360, they had forgotten the differences as they were just focused on the actual game.

I honestly think all this focusing on resoloutions are missing the entire point. resoloution doesnt make a great game. nintendo proove this.

 

It does matter when the screen is less then an inch away from your eye.
People playing bf3 on the dev kit said at 400p ai enemies where shooting them before they had even appeared as the lower resolution means the draw distance is severely hampered.

Well if there wasn't a market they wouldn't be making it. Steam game client on PC has 65million daily active users. There is also a lot that refuse to use steam so the number is greater than that.

PC gaming is a lot bigger than people realise. Especially when it comes to less casual gamers that products like this are aimed at.

 

oh dear...........it seems like there are more and more reports of dead ps4 consoles out there.

ac black flag has turned out to be 900p rather than 1080p....

seems like sony consoles are suffering from over heating issues, not turning on issues, bricking issues and hdmi issues. Thought most of it would be over exagerating but amazon reviews of the product dont look too good and confirms problems are out there.

surely the consoles cant be that bad.......

http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/146404.html

 

completely irrelevant but made me laugh.....

 

well, fair play and i guess that all the rivalry has got them more publicity than money could buy. Its a win win for both i guess. I always wondered why they would launch consoles so close as it is unheard of and never happened before.....because of the buzz it would create....... Still didnt expect to see this though...

 

Danneth has gone rather quiet!

I've been hearing the same about the PS4, I think Sony knew this was coming, they would rather rush the console than let the date slip, hence the 30% profit drop warning to the stock market.