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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Hello new here

First of all this is a brilliant forum, spent ages rooting round looking at some gorgeous cars on here! So I thought i'd share about mine

Ive got an A reg ('84) MK2 Fiesta Pop Plus 1.1 in baby blue...

Under the bonnet is a 1.8 ZVH running twin DCNF 40's 1.4 5 Speed with RS Turbo LSD, RS Turbo brakes, RS turbo clutch Facet Fuel pump, Fuel King Glass Filter/Regulator. (RS1600i Lean burn head)

Sits on 14" Starmags with GAZ coilovers all round, full scorpian Exhaust, Ashley 4to1 Manifold.

Couple of questions are..

If I were to fit a rev counter would the pick up be on the Negative of the coil? (Still runs dizzy cap, no rev limter)

Also the handbrake Light does not work, havent checked to see if its just a bulb but wanted to know were the switch is and what wires I should be looking for if its a faulty/ missing switch.

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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 03:22 PM
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Yes exactly as you say re the rev counter (Green wire is ground on the coil), they just have basic breakerless ignition.

The switch is by the handbrake itself, it just completes the ground circuit when the handbrake is applied. So a "push to make" switch basically. You may need to remove the little bit of carpet around it to get to it.

That must be one of the first MK2's?

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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 03:37 PM
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Yeah it is an early one, were would the plates be saying date of manufacture?

Il have a look under the carpet for the switch, thank you
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The V5 states "Approximate first year of use", I don't think it's actually on the VIN plate but the wings do have date stamped on them (If they are original that is)

Easiest thing to do is to ground the wire you remove off the switch, if the light works (With ignition on, obviously) then it means the switch is at fault, if nothing, check for power at the wire, if nothing, then the bulb has most likely blown.

These also have a seperate light for low brake fluid, whereas normally on other cars you have one dual/tri purpose bulb.

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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Should be able to get the build date from vin number.

Found this - http://www.btinternet.com/~madmole/vindecoder.html

(11th and 12th digit of vin)

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Before I make myself look stupid, the Icon im looking at on the dash is a (!) not a (P) so will it have a handbrake light? Its the 110mph clocks with no clock and no tach.

Also with the engine, what sort of revs should it withstand?
It has a Newman Fast Road Cam with solid lifters, The block I think is standard, though looking down the spark plug holes the piston crowns have grooves in them, to my knowledge the standard zetec pistons are flat aren't they? To be safe I wouldnt push the engine past 6000rpms.

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Some early mk2s dont have a hand brake light/ switch as ive found on 2 of mine in the past lol
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Been so long since I worked on a mk2 Fiesta, but I would just have a look at the lever and see if it's got a switch. Also have a look to see if it has a fluid level indicator on the brake fluid reservoir.
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The reservoir is off a VW but it does have a sensor in the cap, I cant find a switch on the handbrake, neither can I find a wire, so why would it have the light lol?
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Originally Posted by Cardie
Before I make myself look stupid, the Icon im looking at on the dash is a (!) not a (P) so will it have a handbrake light? Its the 110mph clocks with no clock and no tach.

Also with the engine, what sort of revs should it withstand?
It has a Newman Fast Road Cam with solid lifters, The block I think is standard, though looking down the spark plug holes the piston crowns have grooves in them, to my knowledge the standard zetec pistons are flat aren't they? To be safe I wouldnt push the engine past 6000rpms.

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Like I say, there are two lights, next to each other, if you only have the (!) that's the low brake fluid warning and so you don't have a Parking brake (P) warning light.

If you have a look at the fluid resoviour there is actually a switch on top you can press to test the light.

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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Like I say, there are two lights, next to each other, if you only have the (!) that's the low brake fluid warning and so you don't have a Parking brake (P) warning light.

If you have a look at the fluid resoviour there is actually a switch on top you can press to test the light.

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The resoviour is from a volkswagen, and its not plugged in, it has a 2 pin connector on the top, I have found a loose cable in the engine bay that looks like it should go towards the braking system, its a rubber 3 pin connecton, ground the middle and 12v to one side and nothing to the otherside, do you recon this is for the light? How should I test it? I dont want to short anything out lol.
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Yep, that's the original Ford connector.
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Originally Posted by Cardie
The reservoir is off a VW but it does have a sensor in the cap, I cant find a switch on the handbrake, neither can I find a wire, so why would it have the light lol?
That was posted whilst I was composing my message.

You don't have a handbrake light! As I say there are two warning lamps (Which differs to other cars), you only have the (!) which is the low fluid warning light.

Usually the sensor has two wires, the sensor when the fluid is low enough closes the circuit, i.e. joins the two wires together completing the ground circuit for the bulb, thus illiminating it.

I THINK the 12V will be the bulbs connection, in which case, if this is grounded the light should illuminate, I don't know what the 3rd pin is used for off hand, as a disclaimer as with anything on a forum you try this at your own risk!

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Okay, tested it and it comes on fine, now I have to adapt it to the VW connector which shouldnt be a problem and ieve got a spare 12v feed which will be perfect for power to the revcounter Thanks everyone!
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
That was posted whilst I was composing my message.

You don't have a handbrake light! As I say there are two warning lamps (Which differs to other cars), you only have the (!) which is the low fluid warning light.

Usually the sensor has two wires, the sensor when the fluid is low enough closes the circuit, i.e. joins the two wires together completing the ground circuit for the bulb, thus illiminating it.

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The engine just uses the standard CVH dizzy cap. How would a standard CVH rev limiter work? Judging by the one on mine the limiter wasnt in the cap, they usually have them in the cap or just behind it on standard dizzys?
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any chance of some pics of the car mate? we all love pics here!
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I don't think they had one? Was it a XR3 CVH originally or other hot model or just out of a regular model?

Some older cars used a mechanical rev limter within the dizzy like you say (2.8I Capri for example), like a spring setup, where as later and current set ups have limiters within the ECU software.

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Originally Posted by martysmartie
I don't think they had one? Was it a XR3 CVH originally or other hot model or just out of a regular model?

Some older cars used a mechanical rev limter within the dizzy like you say (2.8I Capri for example), like a spring setup, where as later and current set ups have limiters within the ECU software.

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As the head was a 1600i it would of been in the ECU im guessing, the dizzy cap,..... il just get some pictures lol
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From memory, some XR3is/mk1 Golf GTI etc had the centrifugal rev limiting type rotor arm, lot of Bosch stuff interchanges.

RS1600i had twin coils,no dizzy.
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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Heres some pics then

1st one is the dizzy cap, at the back of it there is some sort of sensor which has been adapted to be the 'pick up' it musnt have a mechanical rev limiter so not to sure what its off.



Second is the reservoir



Third is the original connector



Fourth is the engine bay, sorry for the dreadful pictures



5th is the Car

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Black cap = not Bosch distributor. No rev lmiter.

Car looks cool.
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