Vroooommmm have you ever tried eating a turd?????

 

Chip, is markyd3 your brother?

 

I think of myself more as a desciple!!

 

have you smelt his breath??!!

 

* Lovey dovey mode *

We are all brothers united under are shared love of cars.

Even Less

 

Try it,

 

Its very easy for people to stay stick in there things will get better etc etc but unless you have been or are going through depression its something that you will never realy understand

Trust me i know

 

Rudey, you talk alot of sense, well it makes alot of sense to me and my state of mind.

Chip, i think your attitude towards life is great but your comment that we are all in control of our own state of minds is not true in alot of peoples cases. Mental illness is not always to do with state of mind, it has alot to do with brain chemistry. Sometimes chemical imbalances occur and they are out of our control i'm afraid. So with the best state of mind in the world you can become depressed and be unable to get out of it until IT passes

I think in some cases people do have a negative outlook on life which causes depression, but some people don't have a choice

 

* Rudey *, In the corn fields working out why they dont digest

 

Rudey, you talk alot of sense, well it makes alot of sense to me and my state of mind.

Chip, i think your attitude towards life is great but your comment that we are all in control of our own state of minds is not true in alot of peoples cases. Mental illness is not always to do with state of mind, it has alot to do with brain chemistry. Sometimes chemical imbalances occur and they are out of our control i'm afraid. So with the best state of mind in the world you can become depressed and be unable to get out of it until IT passes

I think in some cases people do have a negative outlook on life which causes depression, but some people don't have a choice

 

didnt know you went through it kris

my dad went through it and apparo the worst thing to say is "pull yourself together lad!"

 

Less hasn't replied in a while...anyone called him to see if he's ok?

 

didnt know you went through it kris

my dad went through it and apparo the worst thing to say is "pull yourself together lad!"

 

Its not something i realy like talking about as a rule as people dont understand and think its just something you can pull yourself out of it just like that!

I hope that your old mans ok mate

 

Nicole, its my belief that a positive mental attitude encourages the body to correct such imbalances, i personally believe those imbalances are as much a symptom as a cause, but then again like most of us on here im not a qualified psychiatrist and may be wrong (in fact it seems like even the pros get it wrong 90% of the time) so like any other thread all one can do is post what one feels is correct.

I know someone who was on drugs for years and it did no good at all, then one day she just put them down and said "right thats it, i start afresh from here" and made a go of her life and has never looked back.

Seems to me like its worth a try, i dont like the concept of drugs, far too many side effects as they are generally prescribed by people who dont know enough about the REAL effects of them.

I think he should just have a wank to cheer himself up, then take his girlfriend out for a night on the town or to the picture or something and never look back.

I figure he has nothing to lose by trying the the "positive approach" if it doesnt work for him and he ends up a sad and depressed emotionally scarred loser then he isnt really any worse off than he is now is he?
Where as if you go down the drugs route it can REALLY mess you up based on what ive seen happen to people.

 

I really would love to be postive somne days I can be

Other days I cant be

Dont want to fucking like this,couldnt give a fuck wot peopl;e think

cONTROL MY SATE OF MIND I would love too.

I try and wake saying no less the depression will win

Peopl;e that have been through will understand you CANT SEE ANYTHING POSITVE

IF YER DONT LIKE HOW I FEEL

ONE THING TO SAY FUCK OFF

 

double fucking post

 

Oh yeah I love have to get through the day taking a pill

 

Positive mental attitude about my own life (how i always look at it)


Or a negative way of looking at my life currently



Now i dont care what chemical imbalances you have, or wether you are on prescribed drugs or not, it HAS to help to have the first of those outlooks not the second surely!!!!

And thats something he can do himself, so thats what he should do, right it down from a positive frame of mind (or get someone else who knows him well to do so), and when he is feeling negative about life as a whole, read it back.



Chip

 

Oh well I go waway and be all happy now

Its thats easy is it thanks CHIP WISH i HAD FUCKING KNOWN THAT

 

Less. I know not much about you or your situation but what I can say is many people very close to me have been through what you're going through now. It's very hard to see when you're so close but things can get better but you have to change them.

Counsellors and psychiatrists seem to be shite and only listen to you; However an incredibly good friend of mine had cognitive therapy which changed the way she though, not what Chip has shown above but real ways to treat how you think about things. This person had attempted suicide many times and used to cut themselves badly (one example being the 48 stitches in their stomach) and now, despite being down every now and then (but hey, who isn't) when they start getting a little 'mad' they know how to control it. And now I don't have to hide razor blades from them.

It CAN get better. Anything I can do...

 

Hey Less, chin up, talking of ending things isn't the way forward, I don't know your history, and it's probably easy for me to say, but some people don't have a choice of life, terminal diseases and all that, they'd give anything to have what you have. Tomorrows another day, have a brew, go to bed, and start a fresh tomorrow, you know it makes sense.
Hope this helps, talk to me on msn if that helps, sometimes it's easier to talk to a stranger.
Andy

 

Andy I hate being like this and I feel worse everytime I read people have illnessens and they have real problems

Makes me feel more worthless,pull yourself togther it be okay

I dont see that

Dont even though why I writing this,dont know what I doing

Just want to shout hit something break something my cars are all away from me and the keys jidden so i dont crash em

Fuck i feel even more fucking shit noe

 

Talking of ending things is ok i reckon, cause its just a cry for help, its when you stop talking about it and start actually plotting how you are going to do it that its a problem, i dont think the sort of person who talks about it is in the same sort of frame of mind person who actaully does it.

Less, i cant see the point in abusing me for telling you to change your attitude to life, why the hell post it on a public forum if you are just going to abuse people when they try and help you?

 

That's not always the case

 

Chip I dont fucking know maybe its a cry for help

i HAVE PLOOTED WAYS TO KILL MYSELF GOT THE HOSE S READY TO GAs myself

My mind feels so fucked up atthe moment

 

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Now i dont care what chemical imbalances you have, or wether you are on prescribed drugs or not, it HAS to help to have the first of those outlooks not the second surely!!!!

Chip[/quote]

I know you're only trying to help but that statement it silly.

Mental illness can be heriditary and people can become mentally ill for no apparent reason other than such 'chemical imbalances' occurring because of a genetic pre-disposition.

Such people cannot 'control' the chemistry of their own brains other than by drugs and/or drugs.

Mental illness is no less an illness than the flu, bronchitis, or cancer. Would you say them 'think yourself better', it's all in your mind? Mental illness has PHYSICAL causes that respond to drugs just as any other illness does.

 

over here there is a ''crisis team'' just for when ur feeling this way, they realy help and no-one is there to judge u, just to make u feel better and make u c that u are not worthless. i dont know if there is anywhere lik that u can call over there, but if u just ring the hospital and tell them how ur feeling, they will get someone u can talk to. people do need u about, at the moment u just cant c past the way u are feeling. just ring someone, and trust me, u will feel a little better in a few days, its not a miracle worker, it takes time to get to the root of the problem, but stick with it and trust me u will get better, live ur life to the full, people need you no matter what u think. from lisa ( craigs girlfriend )

 

Yes i most definately would, like i said, i dont care what else is going on a positive attitude always HELPS, im not saying it will solve his problems, just saying its a good place to start.

Just like i would with someone with flu, the body fights infection better when it isnt depressed.

 

i TALK ABOUT IT SO WONT DO IT

yOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I CLIMB ON RAILWAY BRIDGES,HOW MANY TIMES i HAVE HIDTAblets,stole em from me mum to take,

Broughtr the whisky to drown em,each time i fial the next time I take a step closer

 

i TALK ABOUT IT SO WONT DO IT

yOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I CLIMB ON RAILWAY BRIDGES,HOW MANY TIMES i HAVE HIDTAblets,stole em from me mum to take,

Broughtr the whisky to drown em,each time i fial the next time I take a step closer

 

There are people on here who have given advice

There are people outside of this forum who can give you help and advice.

I am gonna sound a coont now but if you dont want peoples help or advice then dont go posting your problems on an internet forum, keep it to yourself.

You cant tell me Less that from these 4 pages that no one is willing to take out THEIR time for YOU.

 

There people given good advice
#
Others advice is total bollox

I can only see the negative people that now me oir have known me for years,know I dont wanna be like thios,can help and give advie biut not very good at taking it

When I bot more stable and not so nagry at myself or the world it wqill sink in,dont mean to offend.

Just got it out before I hirt myself or someone I love #

I so confused

 

So what do you actually want Less ??

Will more chocolate help See ...... even the people who don't even know you actually care

Do you want people to love you ? people to help you ? or just people to hit out at ??

Talk via your keyboard please

 

So are you gonna sit there, get miserable and mope about and not do anything about it

OR

Get up, stick 2 fingers up in the air and shout "Less the minge magnet is back in town" and do something about it.

Unfortunatly each case is differant and theres only you that really knows what wrong, but with others will to help you gotta help yourself too, small things mean big things at times like these.

Example -
Remember as a kid how chuffed you were when your parents let YOU make your first brew
When your dad sat you on his lap in his car and drove 10 yards down the street and said YOU drove it.

I know the above are of a differant game but they show that such small things do mean alot to people, 1 step at a time, its a long road but crikey its mint when you finish that first hard slog.
Believe me mate, ive read the book, made the T shirt and i am the fat big cocked ego maniac of a fooker in the video

 

Nuts R us dont know suippose IO was venting the nager I feel at myself at evryone on her

Nort want syupmathy maybe deep down looking for encouragemnet.a glimmer of hope in some of the things people said

A cry for help,people saying dont kill yerself to help me not take another step,people to hit out at.

See i dont know but I know deep down theire are genuine people on here who care,and I appreciate it most of the time.But somedays the negative stuff wins.

Cant tell a p[rofessinal at the min or my fmaily and pushed all my freinds away years ago.

So this is the only release I got.bit calmer now

It will probaly make sense if you been through it each of us deal with it in our own ways.

Well this is one way I deal with it,as booze only make me wirse,and the people i trust not online.

Sorry people i didnt want to this post but at the same time I had too

 

Big G

I went out and tried to cheer myself up doing stuff that sometimes work,I undertsand you giving your advice and appreciate it.

But you know how bad iot makes people l;ike me feel when people say you can snap ouit of it.I want to be the Less most people see happy cheerful.

I try and remember good things good times somedays it works somedays it dont.

I want to be normal that all or be happy for more than a few days

 

less one question.. it may help you and others to understand

why are you like this?

whats happened to fuck your head up so much??

 

less one question.. it may help you and others to understand

why are you like this?

whats happened to fuck your head up so much??