Sitting here crying
#124
Originally Posted by markyd3
markyd3, you ever ate sweetcorn before? if you dont chew it, it doesnt digest because of the shell on the corn. . u goon
Vroooommmm have you ever tried eating a turd?????
#128
Its very easy for people to stay stick in there things will get better etc etc but unless you have been or are going through depression its something that you will never realy understand
Trust me i know
Trust me i know
#129
Rudey, you talk alot of sense, well it makes alot of sense to me and my state of mind.
Chip, i think your attitude towards life is great but your comment that we are all in control of our own state of minds is not true in alot of peoples cases. Mental illness is not always to do with state of mind, it has alot to do with brain chemistry. Sometimes chemical imbalances occur and they are out of our control i'm afraid. So with the best state of mind in the world you can become depressed and be unable to get out of it until IT passes
I think in some cases people do have a negative outlook on life which causes depression, but some people don't have a choice
Chip, i think your attitude towards life is great but your comment that we are all in control of our own state of minds is not true in alot of peoples cases. Mental illness is not always to do with state of mind, it has alot to do with brain chemistry. Sometimes chemical imbalances occur and they are out of our control i'm afraid. So with the best state of mind in the world you can become depressed and be unable to get out of it until IT passes
I think in some cases people do have a negative outlook on life which causes depression, but some people don't have a choice
#131
Rudey, you talk alot of sense, well it makes alot of sense to me and my state of mind.
Chip, i think your attitude towards life is great but your comment that we are all in control of our own state of minds is not true in alot of peoples cases. Mental illness is not always to do with state of mind, it has alot to do with brain chemistry. Sometimes chemical imbalances occur and they are out of our control i'm afraid. So with the best state of mind in the world you can become depressed and be unable to get out of it until IT passes
I think in some cases people do have a negative outlook on life which causes depression, but some people don't have a choice
Chip, i think your attitude towards life is great but your comment that we are all in control of our own state of minds is not true in alot of peoples cases. Mental illness is not always to do with state of mind, it has alot to do with brain chemistry. Sometimes chemical imbalances occur and they are out of our control i'm afraid. So with the best state of mind in the world you can become depressed and be unable to get out of it until IT passes
I think in some cases people do have a negative outlook on life which causes depression, but some people don't have a choice
#135
Originally Posted by mattbibs
didnt know you went through it kris
my dad went through it and apparo the worst thing to say is "pull yourself together lad!"
my dad went through it and apparo the worst thing to say is "pull yourself together lad!"
I hope that your old mans ok mate
#136
Nicole, its my belief that a positive mental attitude encourages the body to correct such imbalances, i personally believe those imbalances are as much a symptom as a cause, but then again like most of us on here im not a qualified psychiatrist and may be wrong (in fact it seems like even the pros get it wrong 90% of the time) so like any other thread all one can do is post what one feels is correct.
I know someone who was on drugs for years and it did no good at all, then one day she just put them down and said "right thats it, i start afresh from here" and made a go of her life and has never looked back.
Seems to me like its worth a try, i dont like the concept of drugs, far too many side effects as they are generally prescribed by people who dont know enough about the REAL effects of them.
I think he should just have a wank to cheer himself up, then take his girlfriend out for a night on the town or to the picture or something and never look back.
I figure he has nothing to lose by trying the the "positive approach" if it doesnt work for him and he ends up a sad and depressed emotionally scarred loser then he isnt really any worse off than he is now is he?
Where as if you go down the drugs route it can REALLY mess you up based on what ive seen happen to people.
I know someone who was on drugs for years and it did no good at all, then one day she just put them down and said "right thats it, i start afresh from here" and made a go of her life and has never looked back.
Seems to me like its worth a try, i dont like the concept of drugs, far too many side effects as they are generally prescribed by people who dont know enough about the REAL effects of them.
I think he should just have a wank to cheer himself up, then take his girlfriend out for a night on the town or to the picture or something and never look back.
I figure he has nothing to lose by trying the the "positive approach" if it doesnt work for him and he ends up a sad and depressed emotionally scarred loser then he isnt really any worse off than he is now is he?
Where as if you go down the drugs route it can REALLY mess you up based on what ive seen happen to people.
#137
I really would love to be postive somne days I can be
Other days I cant be
Dont want to fucking like this,couldnt give a fuck wot peopl;e think
cONTROL MY SATE OF MIND I would love too.
I try and wake saying no less the depression will win
Peopl;e that have been through will understand you CANT SEE ANYTHING POSITVE
IF YER DONT LIKE HOW I FEEL
ONE THING TO SAY FUCK OFF
Other days I cant be
Dont want to fucking like this,couldnt give a fuck wot peopl;e think
cONTROL MY SATE OF MIND I would love too.
I try and wake saying no less the depression will win
Peopl;e that have been through will understand you CANT SEE ANYTHING POSITVE
IF YER DONT LIKE HOW I FEEL
ONE THING TO SAY FUCK OFF
#140
Positive mental attitude about my own life (how i always look at it)
Or a negative way of looking at my life currently
Now i dont care what chemical imbalances you have, or wether you are on prescribed drugs or not, it HAS to help to have the first of those outlooks not the second surely!!!!
And thats something he can do himself, so thats what he should do, right it down from a positive frame of mind (or get someone else who knows him well to do so), and when he is feeling negative about life as a whole, read it back.
Chip
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Ive got a great life at the moment.
I own my own house but i dont have to pay the mortgage cause i rent it out to my auntie and uncle cause my parents have just bought a larger place and i enjoy living with them and my girlfriend likes it there too, and its cool cause ive got my own couple of bedrooms for if mates stay over and my own seperate lounge etc.
Ive got a job i enjoy on pretty good money
Ive got quite a few cool cars at the moment, and am also normally helping one or two othe people out with cars i find interesting too, in fact got a really cool project for a mate in the pipelines at the moment
My health seems great
My lovelife is fantastic like its basically always been
Got some good friends i know i can trust
I own my own house but i dont have to pay the mortgage cause i rent it out to my auntie and uncle cause my parents have just bought a larger place and i enjoy living with them and my girlfriend likes it there too, and its cool cause ive got my own couple of bedrooms for if mates stay over and my own seperate lounge etc.
Ive got a job i enjoy on pretty good money
Ive got quite a few cool cars at the moment, and am also normally helping one or two othe people out with cars i find interesting too, in fact got a really cool project for a mate in the pipelines at the moment
My health seems great
My lovelife is fantastic like its basically always been
Got some good friends i know i can trust
Or a negative way of looking at my life currently
Originally Posted by chip-3door
My life is shit
I own a house but if i lose my job then i could lose the house too potentially as i may not be able to get another decent mortgage when the current one runs out unless im on 50K a year at least at the time due to the amount of borrowing, and those sort of jobs are getting harder to find these days.
I have a girlfriend who has left me before in the past and could do so again of course, so much as i love her one day she might not be there for me anymore
None of my interesting cars are currently finished and i get almost no time to work on them due to work commitments
My RS500 shell was written off and is now being replaced with a 1600 GL shell and will only ever be classed as a "replica"
I have to stay away from home 5 nights a week working at the moment and hardly get to see my girlfriend / family
I am in a job which on paper was a 3 month contract that expired 10 months ago so therefore I could be un-needed at any moment without warning and would get no severance pay or notice etc
Technically I am clinically overweight for my height, and im starting to go bald.
I own a house but if i lose my job then i could lose the house too potentially as i may not be able to get another decent mortgage when the current one runs out unless im on 50K a year at least at the time due to the amount of borrowing, and those sort of jobs are getting harder to find these days.
I have a girlfriend who has left me before in the past and could do so again of course, so much as i love her one day she might not be there for me anymore
None of my interesting cars are currently finished and i get almost no time to work on them due to work commitments
My RS500 shell was written off and is now being replaced with a 1600 GL shell and will only ever be classed as a "replica"
I have to stay away from home 5 nights a week working at the moment and hardly get to see my girlfriend / family
I am in a job which on paper was a 3 month contract that expired 10 months ago so therefore I could be un-needed at any moment without warning and would get no severance pay or notice etc
Technically I am clinically overweight for my height, and im starting to go bald.
Now i dont care what chemical imbalances you have, or wether you are on prescribed drugs or not, it HAS to help to have the first of those outlooks not the second surely!!!!
And thats something he can do himself, so thats what he should do, right it down from a positive frame of mind (or get someone else who knows him well to do so), and when he is feeling negative about life as a whole, read it back.
Chip
#142
Less. I know not much about you or your situation but what I can say is many people very close to me have been through what you're going through now. It's very hard to see when you're so close but things can get better but you have to change them.
Counsellors and psychiatrists seem to be shite and only listen to you; However an incredibly good friend of mine had cognitive therapy which changed the way she though, not what Chip has shown above but real ways to treat how you think about things. This person had attempted suicide many times and used to cut themselves badly (one example being the 48 stitches in their stomach) and now, despite being down every now and then (but hey, who isn't) when they start getting a little 'mad' they know how to control it. And now I don't have to hide razor blades from them.
It CAN get better. Anything I can do...
Counsellors and psychiatrists seem to be shite and only listen to you; However an incredibly good friend of mine had cognitive therapy which changed the way she though, not what Chip has shown above but real ways to treat how you think about things. This person had attempted suicide many times and used to cut themselves badly (one example being the 48 stitches in their stomach) and now, despite being down every now and then (but hey, who isn't) when they start getting a little 'mad' they know how to control it. And now I don't have to hide razor blades from them.
It CAN get better. Anything I can do...
#143
Hey Less, chin up, talking of ending things isn't the way forward, I don't know your history, and it's probably easy for me to say, but some people don't have a choice of life, terminal diseases and all that, they'd give anything to have what you have. Tomorrows another day, have a brew, go to bed, and start a fresh tomorrow, you know it makes sense.
Hope this helps, talk to me on msn if that helps, sometimes it's easier to talk to a stranger.
Andy
Hope this helps, talk to me on msn if that helps, sometimes it's easier to talk to a stranger.
Andy
#144
Andy I hate being like this and I feel worse everytime I read people have illnessens and they have real problems
Makes me feel more worthless,pull yourself togther it be okay
I dont see that
Dont even though why I writing this,dont know what I doing
Just want to shout hit something break something my cars are all away from me and the keys jidden so i dont crash em
Fuck i feel even more fucking shit noe
Makes me feel more worthless,pull yourself togther it be okay
I dont see that
Dont even though why I writing this,dont know what I doing
Just want to shout hit something break something my cars are all away from me and the keys jidden so i dont crash em
Fuck i feel even more fucking shit noe
#145
Talking of ending things is ok i reckon, cause its just a cry for help, its when you stop talking about it and start actually plotting how you are going to do it that its a problem, i dont think the sort of person who talks about it is in the same sort of frame of mind person who actaully does it.
Less, i cant see the point in abusing me for telling you to change your attitude to life, why the hell post it on a public forum if you are just going to abuse people when they try and help you?
Less, i cant see the point in abusing me for telling you to change your attitude to life, why the hell post it on a public forum if you are just going to abuse people when they try and help you?
#148
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Now i dont care what chemical imbalances you have, or wether you are on prescribed drugs or not, it HAS to help to have the first of those outlooks not the second surely!!!!
Chip[/quote]
I know you're only trying to help but that statement it silly.
Mental illness can be heriditary and people can become mentally ill for no apparent reason other than such 'chemical imbalances' occurring because of a genetic pre-disposition.
Such people cannot 'control' the chemistry of their own brains other than by drugs and/or drugs.
Mental illness is no less an illness than the flu, bronchitis, or cancer. Would you say them 'think yourself better', it's all in your mind? Mental illness has PHYSICAL causes that respond to drugs just as any other illness does.
Now i dont care what chemical imbalances you have, or wether you are on prescribed drugs or not, it HAS to help to have the first of those outlooks not the second surely!!!!
Chip[/quote]
I know you're only trying to help but that statement it silly.
Mental illness can be heriditary and people can become mentally ill for no apparent reason other than such 'chemical imbalances' occurring because of a genetic pre-disposition.
Such people cannot 'control' the chemistry of their own brains other than by drugs and/or drugs.
Mental illness is no less an illness than the flu, bronchitis, or cancer. Would you say them 'think yourself better', it's all in your mind? Mental illness has PHYSICAL causes that respond to drugs just as any other illness does.
#149
over here there is a ''crisis team'' just for when ur feeling this way, they realy help and no-one is there to judge u, just to make u feel better and make u c that u are not worthless. i dont know if there is anywhere lik that u can call over there, but if u just ring the hospital and tell them how ur feeling, they will get someone u can talk to. people do need u about, at the moment u just cant c past the way u are feeling. just ring someone, and trust me, u will feel a little better in a few days, its not a miracle worker, it takes time to get to the root of the problem, but stick with it and trust me u will get better, live ur life to the full, people need you no matter what u think. from lisa ( craigs girlfriend )
#150
Yes i most definately would, like i said, i dont care what else is going on a positive attitude always HELPS, im not saying it will solve his problems, just saying its a good place to start.
Just like i would with someone with flu, the body fights infection better when it isnt depressed.
Just like i would with someone with flu, the body fights infection better when it isnt depressed.
#151
i TALK ABOUT IT SO WONT DO IT
yOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I CLIMB ON RAILWAY BRIDGES,HOW MANY TIMES i HAVE HIDTAblets,stole em from me mum to take,
Broughtr the whisky to drown em,each time i fial the next time I take a step closer
yOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I CLIMB ON RAILWAY BRIDGES,HOW MANY TIMES i HAVE HIDTAblets,stole em from me mum to take,
Broughtr the whisky to drown em,each time i fial the next time I take a step closer
#152
i TALK ABOUT IT SO WONT DO IT
yOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I CLIMB ON RAILWAY BRIDGES,HOW MANY TIMES i HAVE HIDTAblets,stole em from me mum to take,
Broughtr the whisky to drown em,each time i fial the next time I take a step closer
yOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I CLIMB ON RAILWAY BRIDGES,HOW MANY TIMES i HAVE HIDTAblets,stole em from me mum to take,
Broughtr the whisky to drown em,each time i fial the next time I take a step closer
#153
There are people on here who have given advice
There are people outside of this forum who can give you help and advice.
I am gonna sound a coont now but if you dont want peoples help or advice then dont go posting your problems on an internet forum, keep it to yourself.
You cant tell me Less that from these 4 pages that no one is willing to take out THEIR time for YOU.
There are people outside of this forum who can give you help and advice.
I am gonna sound a coont now but if you dont want peoples help or advice then dont go posting your problems on an internet forum, keep it to yourself.
You cant tell me Less that from these 4 pages that no one is willing to take out THEIR time for YOU.
#154
There people given good advice
#
Others advice is total bollox
I can only see the negative people that now me oir have known me for years,know I dont wanna be like thios,can help and give advie biut not very good at taking it
When I bot more stable and not so nagry at myself or the world it wqill sink in,dont mean to offend.
Just got it out before I hirt myself or someone I love #
I so confused
#
Others advice is total bollox
I can only see the negative people that now me oir have known me for years,know I dont wanna be like thios,can help and give advie biut not very good at taking it
When I bot more stable and not so nagry at myself or the world it wqill sink in,dont mean to offend.
Just got it out before I hirt myself or someone I love #
I so confused
#155
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So what do you actually want Less ??
Will more chocolate help See ...... even the people who don't even know you actually care
Do you want people to love you ? people to help you ? or just people to hit out at ??
Talk via your keyboard please
Will more chocolate help See ...... even the people who don't even know you actually care
Do you want people to love you ? people to help you ? or just people to hit out at ??
Talk via your keyboard please
#156
So are you gonna sit there, get miserable and mope about and not do anything about it
OR
Get up, stick 2 fingers up in the air and shout "Less the minge magnet is back in town" and do something about it.
Unfortunatly each case is differant and theres only you that really knows what wrong, but with others will to help you gotta help yourself too, small things mean big things at times like these.
Example -
Remember as a kid how chuffed you were when your parents let YOU make your first brew
When your dad sat you on his lap in his car and drove 10 yards down the street and said YOU drove it.
I know the above are of a differant game but they show that such small things do mean alot to people, 1 step at a time, its a long road but crikey its mint when you finish that first hard slog.
Believe me mate, ive read the book, made the T shirt and i am the fat big cocked ego maniac of a fooker in the video
OR
Get up, stick 2 fingers up in the air and shout "Less the minge magnet is back in town" and do something about it.
Unfortunatly each case is differant and theres only you that really knows what wrong, but with others will to help you gotta help yourself too, small things mean big things at times like these.
Example -
Remember as a kid how chuffed you were when your parents let YOU make your first brew
When your dad sat you on his lap in his car and drove 10 yards down the street and said YOU drove it.
I know the above are of a differant game but they show that such small things do mean alot to people, 1 step at a time, its a long road but crikey its mint when you finish that first hard slog.
Believe me mate, ive read the book, made the T shirt and i am the fat big cocked ego maniac of a fooker in the video
#157
Nuts R us dont know suippose IO was venting the nager I feel at myself at evryone on her
Nort want syupmathy maybe deep down looking for encouragemnet.a glimmer of hope in some of the things people said
A cry for help,people saying dont kill yerself to help me not take another step,people to hit out at.
See i dont know but I know deep down theire are genuine people on here who care,and I appreciate it most of the time.But somedays the negative stuff wins.
Cant tell a p[rofessinal at the min or my fmaily and pushed all my freinds away years ago.
So this is the only release I got.bit calmer now
It will probaly make sense if you been through it each of us deal with it in our own ways.
Well this is one way I deal with it,as booze only make me wirse,and the people i trust not online.
Sorry people i didnt want to this post but at the same time I had too
Nort want syupmathy maybe deep down looking for encouragemnet.a glimmer of hope in some of the things people said
A cry for help,people saying dont kill yerself to help me not take another step,people to hit out at.
See i dont know but I know deep down theire are genuine people on here who care,and I appreciate it most of the time.But somedays the negative stuff wins.
Cant tell a p[rofessinal at the min or my fmaily and pushed all my freinds away years ago.
So this is the only release I got.bit calmer now
It will probaly make sense if you been through it each of us deal with it in our own ways.
Well this is one way I deal with it,as booze only make me wirse,and the people i trust not online.
Sorry people i didnt want to this post but at the same time I had too
#158
Big G
I went out and tried to cheer myself up doing stuff that sometimes work,I undertsand you giving your advice and appreciate it.
But you know how bad iot makes people l;ike me feel when people say you can snap ouit of it.I want to be the Less most people see happy cheerful.
I try and remember good things good times somedays it works somedays it dont.
I want to be normal that all or be happy for more than a few days
I went out and tried to cheer myself up doing stuff that sometimes work,I undertsand you giving your advice and appreciate it.
But you know how bad iot makes people l;ike me feel when people say you can snap ouit of it.I want to be the Less most people see happy cheerful.
I try and remember good things good times somedays it works somedays it dont.
I want to be normal that all or be happy for more than a few days