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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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can i just say that my response to that was a bit sarcastic lol
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You have more chance of fitting a whale up your arse IMHO
lol........
Old Sep 12, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
You have more chance of fitting a whale up your arse IMHO

Chip, it's not Benni thats asking mate. It's someone else thats posting this one.
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You thick cunt!

You made more mistakes correcting the letter than the original letter contained!

Way to go!
Feel free to correct them. I am always open to learn.

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its me lol
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i say best of luck to you mate
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ill keep u lot posted anyway, if i get any emails back, i'll put em here to see who was right in the debate
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LOL

Benni's "corrections" are a bit blind leading the blind, but it doesnt really matter. In my experience its who you know (rather than now, Benni ) not who you write to that has the best results !!! Even then I have been sponsored for bodywork for a couple of years on the drift car and this year it just wasnt possible for them and I effectively lost the sponsorship, so just bought a bodyshop myself instead and now employ people to do my paint for me !!

The next cars paint is gonna be UBER trick though, innit Stavros !!

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I think calling me a 'Thick cunt' was a little over the top though. Especially as it came from a man who had to shamefully bum a thousand pound off another forum member because he became so poor he could not financially live. Not so smart himself.

However, as I am doing English at college all corrections are welcomed with open arms.

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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by FIESTA CHRIS H
brilliant idea

do you recon i could get a engine built by martin at reyland by offering the same deal
pmsl
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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I don't think the idea is too bad to be honest (I own my own business)

Ł600 is nothing in the world of advertising really, I spend that in a couple of months and I only run a small company. It's all tax deductable anyway....

Certainly worth a try!

Good luck with it
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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if he's going to send it of to a number of companies, will it end up in a bidding war for those vying for his services?
you never know, it might be that someone will offer you a minty mint paint job for free worth thousands of pounds in the end of it

alternativly, i suggest you print up loads of letters and replys and then use them to paper the car

at least it will look original

(if you do this, i expect Ł600 for my services)
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Originally Posted by Benni
I think calling me a 'Thick cunt' was a little over the top though. Especially as it came from a man who had to shamefully bum a thousand pound off another forum member because he became so poor he could not financially live. Not so smart himself.

However, as I am doing English at college all corrections are welcomed with open arms.

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Originally Posted by Benni
I think calling me a 'Thick cunt' was a little over the top though. Especially as it came from a man who had to shamefully bum a thousand pound off another forum member because he became so poor he could not financially live. Not so smart himself.

However, as I am doing English at college all corrections are welcomed with open arms.

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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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It's only costing you a a stamp and a piece of paper! worth a try.....
I did tyhe same on a aproject about 3 yrs back and got sent loads of stuff....main things were FULL car set of deflex bushes, dials, exhaust, springs.

I wrote about 60 letters and got about 5 replies with stuff so got to be worth a try! Big companies have a budget for advertising.

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Originally Posted by Fudgey
you could do your own wrap, fablon is less than a fiver a roll lol

could have a nice walnut effect all over

why the !




http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-ESCORT-CA...d=p3286.c0.m14
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Cant fault you for trying. It been done before by bodyshops so you theres no reason why you might not drop lucky if you send the letter out to plenty of companies. I cant see why it would be such a bad idea if a bodyshop is not that busy or not working upto its capacity. it would only take one or two people to contact them after seeing the details on the car for them to benefit by it.

Of course, if the bodyshops your asking are fully booked up and working to maximum potential then they'd be no point really as they dont need or dont have time for extra work.
Old Sep 13, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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to the folk who keep saying its a good idea, dont you think any bodyshop or company with half a clue would be wanting to spray a decent car, a car that will get a lot of coverage and seen everywhere, rather than some randoms motor?

all the well known cars in the country seen by thousands of people on a regular basis, and they paint and stick their stickers on some random persons low spec fiesta or something?

what he is basically hoping for is a company with no clue how to spend advertising money wisely
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Originally Posted by Stavros
to the folk who keep saying its a good idea, dont you think any bodyshop or company with half a clue would be wanting to spray a decent car, a car that will get a lot of coverage and seen everywhere, rather than some randoms motor?

all the well known cars in the country seen by thousands of people on a regular basis, and they paint and stick their stickers on some random persons low spec fiesta or something?

what he is basically hoping for is a company with no clue how to spend advertising money wisely
I disagree mate, i know of two bodyshops that do this and are always happy for extra work in overtime. They have actually found this a very good way to attract business and had paid for itself 10 times over. Bodyshops major source of business is from reccommendations, so it only takes a few people to see it, have work done, then tell their mates and it could lead to many more jobs.

Now if your talking engine builds for example then yes, i agree it would have to be on a very capable car to bring business, but when your talking about a paint job, then as long as its a decent paint job, it doesnt really have to have performance to match. Although obviously, the more 'special' the paint job/car, the more people/business it will attract, which is the exact reason why im sure these sponsers on very well known cars will no doubt have to pay a fortune for the privelidge.

People who want paint jobs need to see the work for themsleves, so it has the potential to bring business for sure.

The bodyshops i know of, offer a discount if the car/bike in question is mentioned so they know exactly how much work it generates.

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Originally Posted by Stavros
to the folk who keep saying its a good idea, dont you think any bodyshop or company with half a clue would be wanting to spray a decent car, a car that will get a lot of coverage and seen everywhere, rather than some randoms motor?

all the well known cars in the country seen by thousands of people on a regular basis, and they paint and stick their stickers on some random persons low spec fiesta or something?

what he is basically hoping for is a company with no clue how to spend advertising money wisely
a bodyshop who nobody has ever heard of may do it, you never know

some companys give stuff away for pointless reasons too, people with the big power cars tend to want the big names on there cars too, so its swings and roundabouts

i cant belive the money people pay to enter things like time attack ect and the cash they spunk on the cars for it, alot of em self funded at first too but they do it
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i dont think its a bad idea, i dont think he will get it for free but if some one turns around and says we will bang it out half price thats not a bad deal even if he gets 25% off its still cheaper than full price and they get some proper sponsers stickers than on a budget car looks kooler than just some randon stickers.

bear in mind that knocking the job out half price will prob cost them nothing all it will cost is them no profit on a half a day job.

imo thats very good adverising even if they only get one more customer

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i think stav's got his posh glasses on today, the top motors won't need to ask as peole wil say "how much will you charge me to put a sticker ono your motor?" ala ferari and co who do proper motor sport business

then you've got the likes of deamon theies who pay you some money if you send them a mag with your car and their logo in a picture

this guys asking if someone will sponser his paint job and if no one does all he's lost is a bit of time and the cost of the postage, harldy like he's going to spend Ł50k on trying to make things work and then have to cove the losses himself is it
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Originally Posted by Benni
I think calling me a 'Thick cunt' was a little over the top though. Especially as it came from a man who had to shamefully bum a thousand pound off another forum member because he became so poor he could not financially live. Not so smart himself.

However, as I am doing English at college all corrections are welcomed with open arms.

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When a member of his family was very, very ill wasn't it? So he wasn't working to look after them or something? IIRC, then classy mate :rollseyes:
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Originally Posted by sbd16v
i dont think its a bad idea, i dont think he will get it for free but if some one turns around and says we will bang it out half price thats not a bad deal even if he gets 25% off its still cheaper than full price and they get some proper sponsers stickers than on a budget car looks kooler than just some randon stickers.

bear in mind that knocking the job out half price will prob cost them nothing all it will cost is them no profit on a half a day job.

imo thats very good adverising even if they only get one more customer
Finally someone gets it!
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Originally Posted by Stavros
to the folk who keep saying its a good idea, dont you think any bodyshop or company with half a clue would be wanting to spray a decent car, a car that will get a lot of coverage and seen everywhere, rather than some randoms motor?

all the well known cars in the country seen by thousands of people on a regular basis, and they paint and stick their stickers on some random persons low spec fiesta or something?

what he is basically hoping for is a company with no clue how to spend advertising money wisely
Yep - I agree, however u never know your luck, so why not?

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i cant see it working but you never know. a small local garage will be looking for local advertising for local work not national or worldwide exposure.
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When a member of his family was very, very ill wasn't it? So he wasn't working to look after them or something? IIRC, then classy mate :rollseyes:
Correct.

I was at home, looking after my grandfather, who was going through the latter stages of a serious illness, where he couldn't dress himself, eat properly etc.

I took that time off to help out the family so that no-one else had to give up work, and also home studied for my masters degree at the same time.

When I happened to be explaining my working situation to Lee when discussing future job opportunities, he openly volunteered to lend me some cash to see me through what was a difficult time. It was actually the hardest decision in the world to accept it, but I actually had little or no choice because of my situation.

Anyway, back to the charity begging letter.
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why is personal and financial matters being dragged into a car forum thread benni?
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Correct.

I was at home, looking after my grandfather, who was going through the latter stages of a serious illness, where he couldn't dress himself, eat properly etc.

I took that time off to help out the family so that no-one else had to give up work, and also home studied for my masters degree at the same time.

When I happened to be explaining my working situation to Lee when discussing future job opportunities, he openly volunteered to lend me some cash to see me through what was a difficult time. It was actually the hardest decision in the world to accept it, but I actually had little or no choice because of my situation.

Anyway, back to the charity begging letter.
sorry but how can ANYONE ever even try to but this down as him "begging", theres VERY few people who would do this and just slap him in home care ect and forget about him till the will

fair fucking play to you, you and i dont get along but its stuff like this that shows what a true person you really are and not the cockey fucker you try to come across on here

fair play
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you could put a bodyshops name on the uk's no1 time attack car and if it wasnt within 50miles of me i wouldnt use them.

a bodyshop advertised on a nicely painted car at knockhill,if i needed paint and it was fairly local then i would enquire.


people drive hundreds of miles for tuning and mapping work to be done but i doubt anyone travels for paint.


my view is sure give it a try but i dont think it will happen.
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yeah exactly, thank you to the many people supporting my idea, i'm also going to be working on a sponsorship letter as well, bearing in mind that I am only 15 as well, it's not like they are going to be sponsoring a bunch of lads on the doll, and if you failed to read that i would be willing to pay for the price of the paint, so its basically a no-loss exercise
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I think rather than a letter you'd be best phoning them up,it's alot more personal. Not many people respond to letters nowadays. So get on the phone at a time when you guess they won't be overly busy.
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personal against professional, it's a hard decision, some may prefer it others may not. Granted I would be spending more man hours calling each and every company local to me but i may also be bothering them when they are working on an important job. A letter would be easier for me (which may sound cheeky)
but it would also be less of a hassle to read and respond than a phone call.
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Your letter's going to go straight in the bin mate. Especially as it's hardly a 'great advertising opportunity' to have their phone number on a car at the New Brighton Rally.

At least put some effort into it, list the events that you'll be definitely going to. Just listing one sounds lazy. You've also implied that you need money to finish other areas of the car, which is going to put them off. They could do a full spray job, but then the car doesn't go anywhere as your wheel blag's fallen through or whatever.

It's a nice idea, but I think you may as well get your arse lubbed up ready for that whale Chip was on about.
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its not really a no loss excercise. the man hours to do the job have to be paid for by someone and if someone is prepared to do a free job/gamble then theyre not earning money doing other paying work needed top cover overheads.
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I would also like to outline that the letter I sent is more of a test exercise than anything, I will be refining this letter and developing a sponsorship letter, i sent it out to one company just to see what they said.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
its not really a no loss excercise. the man hours to do the job have to be paid for by someone and if someone is prepared to do a free job/gamble then theyre not earning money doing other paying work needed top cover overheads.
This can be used as advertising, which is deductible from tax, which could also earn money
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some how i dont think its going to happen mate.. i wouldnt sponsor a 15 year old boy in a fiesta..at the end of the day its cheeky youe even asking tbh. why dont you go and earn some hard cash like the rest of us that way you will valuve your paint job more and it will give you better money handaling skills.
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But it's NOT good advertising. One car with some words on the side isn't going to drag in loads of work for them.

We get asked all the time about sponsoring cars, and everyone thinks that a few stickers and phone numbers equates to great advertising.

Their money would be far better spent on an ad in the local press. Your average bodyshop gets work from the surrounding area, so having a car that is at shows around the country means fuck all to them.

By all means send a letter, but you need to drastically improve what you're offering if you expect to get something for nothing.



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