gym/ toning up?
10-03-2008, 11:27 PM
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gym/ toning up?
ive started to going gym abit latel and ideally dont like to leave till i feel ive had a satisfactory work out although i keep aching, which i know is good. My question is should i rest when aching or work through it? i would like to tone up and have been working through it and having one day off in the week and weekends off, cheers 
11-03-2008, 06:40 AM
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you shouldn'#t be working through it as you are supposed to hit different parts of your body on alternate days and this gives you the chance for various parts of your body to recover
unles it's hurting because you are lifting too much at the start?
or perhaps you are not used to it?
unles it's hurting because you are lifting too much at the start?
or perhaps you are not used to it?
11-03-2008, 08:24 AM
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u shud neva work through it m8 just like dojj sez, nd i must agree wiv dojj, i hav the same problem, but i find wen i finish in the gym get in the shower stretch it off coz its the best time to stretch as the muscles are far more relaxed, then my the morning it wont be aching as much as normal
11-03-2008, 05:52 PM
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ive been aching due to pushing myself, i'd been trying not to leave till i felt id built up an ache so it felt i was achieving something, but takes a couple of days to recover 
11-03-2008, 05:57 PM
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rest and eating proper well help the recovery of the muscles mate,no other way im afraid,you risk damaging the muscle and slowing down any gains your gettin by overworking
11-03-2008, 05:57 PM
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The alternate idea of weights/CV does not work for everyone.
Is it an ache, or is it a cramp, if cramp best to work through it.
If an ache, change your routine, most gyms have swimming pools, so see if you can do that afterwards, as swimming great.
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Is it an ache, or is it a cramp, if cramp best to work through it.
If an ache, change your routine, most gyms have swimming pools, so see if you can do that afterwards, as swimming great.
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11-03-2008, 10:19 PM
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are you doing the proper warming up cycle of stuff and then repeating it afterwards to warm down?
sometimes the aches can be due to the build up of lactic acid in your system that you haven't flushed through, the same thing that causes the burn
but i honestly think it's probably just a case of starting to heavy bceause youmight be embaresed that you can only lift a certain amount of weights
don't worry, i can bench about 25 kgs and i've been doing it for ages
sometimes the aches can be due to the build up of lactic acid in your system that you haven't flushed through, the same thing that causes the burn
but i honestly think it's probably just a case of starting to heavy bceause youmight be embaresed that you can only lift a certain amount of weights
don't worry, i can bench about 25 kgs and i've been doing it for ages
11-03-2008, 10:34 PM
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its more the fact i push myself hard, to try and get in shape and work till i ache
i havent been lifting many realy heavy wieghts, practiced the bench press on around 60kg after i picked up tecnique, and max i lifted on it so far is 95 kg
i havent been lifting many realy heavy wieghts, practiced the bench press on around 60kg after i picked up tecnique, and max i lifted on it so far is 95 kg
11-03-2008, 10:39 PM
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you need a few weeks worth of "basic" moves to get your body used to the routine and the range of movement before you move onto free weights and stuff that is more complicated
don't over do it as if you start to feel the limits you need to start dropping the wieghts to finish the set off to keep going
don't over do it as if you start to feel the limits you need to start dropping the wieghts to finish the set off to keep going
11-03-2008, 11:04 PM
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i start on the wieght machines, working from reps of low wieghts and after each rep i up the wieght, then when tired start working back down the wieghts, i started of with the basic wieghts and was beginning not to ache so i upped them, what kind of diet helps witht the recovery? and whats good for loosing a tiny bit of wieght on the stamach? cradio or are there exercises ova than sit ups etc?
12-03-2008, 07:59 AM
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right, about recovery, i've got a list of stuf you can do to aid recovery but they all tend to point out that you need to eat after a workout if you are knackered
there is also a guide to what proportions to eat but you need to eat 1 gram of protein for every lb of bodyweight and i think they mentienod 3 or 4 grams of carbs for every lb of bodywieght but i can't confirm this until i get back home tomorrow
the other thing that seems to be a bit of a talking point is soya products
there have been studies that have claimed they are not as good for you as some might believe but reports tend to be biased ebcause one guy who was doing the test was coming off anabolic steroids and skewed the figures, if you are taking whey products and you replace 50% of them with a soya product you will apparenty see no loss of the whey but the benifits of the soya
i'm sure there is a dedicated fitness room with all this info in it, you may be better of posting in there for what specific products work with what
right, about recovery, i've got a list of stuf you can do to aid recovery but they all tend to point out that you need to eat after a workout if you are knackered
there is also a guide to what proportions to eat but you need to eat 1 gram of protein for every lb of bodyweight and i think they mentienod 3 or 4 grams of carbs for every lb of bodywieght but i can't confirm this until i get back home tomorrow
the other thing that seems to be a bit of a talking point is soya products
there have been studies that have claimed they are not as good for you as some might believe but reports tend to be biased ebcause one guy who was doing the test was coming off anabolic steroids and skewed the figures, if you are taking whey products and you replace 50% of them with a soya product you will apparenty see no loss of the whey but the benifits of the soya
i'm sure there is a dedicated fitness room with all this info in it, you may be better of posting in there for what specific products work with what
12-03-2008, 08:35 AM
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you are one of the few people who actually train properly.Now just make sure you get the proper nutrients and rest before your next session!
12-03-2008, 06:00 PM
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12-03-2008, 07:15 PM
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also when in the gym DON'T do more than 12 sets on one muscle.
Overtraining is one of the biggest reasons alot of weight lifters in the gym dont see visible muscle gains.
also every 4-5 weeks have 6 days of the gym and keep changing your routine
13-03-2008, 10:04 PM
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paul the man to listen to is paul egg, hes been doing it a while
also changine routine DOES help alot, ive been trying to get my back bigger for a while, ive joined a new gym thats just big weights and sterod gorillas in there ( hope non of you use it read this ) and my back is fucking killing me, but its growth pain rather than joint pain as ive been having that for a whlile too since i twisted my shoulder with a dumbell ( always get someone to squat you at all times when pushing big weights)
also changine routine DOES help alot, ive been trying to get my back bigger for a while, ive joined a new gym thats just big weights and sterod gorillas in there ( hope non of you use it read this ) and my back is fucking killing me, but its growth pain rather than joint pain as ive been having that for a whlile too since i twisted my shoulder with a dumbell ( always get someone to squat you at all times when pushing big weights)
13-03-2008, 10:17 PM
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cheers, yep, sometimes ache so bad that takes a few days lol, i push myself so i feel it work, when i get in the van afterards its hard to turn the wheel lol (no power steering) lol
13-03-2008, 10:22 PM
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paul thats cause your starting out though, thats ALL the muscles growing, small ones and big ones aswel as the joints getting used to it, give it 3 weeks then the normal gorwning pains will appear
when i first started out at the gym i couldnt straighten my arms due to the pain, i was lifting 25 litre drums of oil to stretch my arms as i needed to streach for it to heal qqucker !!!
these days i get pains but not for a few days like the first time, just sometimes im tight in the morning and need to get my heart rate up to loosen up,,,, its cool cause my little girl loves doing star jumps before school with daddy !!!
when i first started out at the gym i couldnt straighten my arms due to the pain, i was lifting 25 litre drums of oil to stretch my arms as i needed to streach for it to heal qqucker !!!
these days i get pains but not for a few days like the first time, just sometimes im tight in the morning and need to get my heart rate up to loosen up,,,, its cool cause my little girl loves doing star jumps before school with daddy !!!
13-03-2008, 10:25 PM
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i want a toned bloody stomach and back, ive only got a little bit of a belly (not much though) but would like it toned up, i can feel the muscle but want the fat gone, whats best for that?
ive only got a little bit of a belly (not much though) but would like it toned up, i can feel the muscle but want the fat gone, whats best for that?
13-03-2008, 10:29 PM
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paul thats cause your starting out though, thats ALL the muscles growing, small ones and big ones aswel as the joints getting used to it, give it 3 weeks then the normal gorwning pains will appear
when i first started out at the gym i couldnt straighten my arms due to the pain, i was lifting 25 litre drums of oil to stretch my arms as i needed to streach for it to heal qqucker !!!
these days i get pains but not for a few days like the first time, just sometimes im tight in the morning and need to get my heart rate up to loosen up,,,, its cool cause my little girl loves doing star jumps before school with daddy !!!
when i first started out at the gym i couldnt straighten my arms due to the pain, i was lifting 25 litre drums of oil to stretch my arms as i needed to streach for it to heal qqucker !!!
these days i get pains but not for a few days like the first time, just sometimes im tight in the morning and need to get my heart rate up to loosen up,,,, its cool cause my little girl loves doing star jumps before school with daddy !!!
13-03-2008, 10:41 PM
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sit ups, neck streches with your arse on your fist and legs together 6ins off the ground ( try it after 50 PROPER sit ups
i use a sit up bench and keep my chin up as if its being pulled up with a bit of string, that and twists, then between that i get a mate to bounce a medicine ball off my stomach then do another 10
oh and throw downs also with the medicin ball imbetween, that and the normal rop with weight behind head in a preying tyoe position
i do abs just cause i get alot of body shots in lick boxing these days and they all discovered its my weakest part !!!
dont show up as im still a fat cunt, but i can take a punch of a bloke whos a heavy weight boxer ( just about )
i use a sit up bench and keep my chin up as if its being pulled up with a bit of string, that and twists, then between that i get a mate to bounce a medicine ball off my stomach then do another 10
oh and throw downs also with the medicin ball imbetween, that and the normal rop with weight behind head in a preying tyoe position
i do abs just cause i get alot of body shots in lick boxing these days and they all discovered its my weakest part !!!
dont show up as im still a fat cunt, but i can take a punch of a bloke whos a heavy weight boxer ( just about )
13-03-2008, 10:52 PM
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best way mate
eat loads, but the right stuff
chicken fish salad etc keep the carbs down ie potatoes, but just exercise and eat loads of this stuff
my mate couldnt lose his belly ( he was 10% bodyfat anyway ) and lost it by cutting out bread
food for thought (excuse the pun )
eat loads, but the right stuff
chicken fish salad etc keep the carbs down ie potatoes, but just exercise and eat loads of this stuff
my mate couldnt lose his belly ( he was 10% bodyfat anyway ) and lost it by cutting out bread
food for thought (excuse the pun
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13-03-2008, 10:54 PM
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mate i primise you doing what im saying will develop it, i not got a weak stomach, but a kick of body blow when sparing takes the wind out of you upless you got a large muscle tisue to dampen the blow if you dont get time to tense it
i was told these excersies buy the others who have proper abs, unless you loose the fat content around the body you wont see it im afraid !!!
fat comes off in layers,,,, muscle will grow an the fat wil be like a jumper, some parts will be forced to move around when the muscle grows but uless you loose it you aint gonna see much !!!
i was told these excersies buy the others who have proper abs, unless you loose the fat content around the body you wont see it im afraid !!!
fat comes off in layers,,,, muscle will grow an the fat wil be like a jumper, some parts will be forced to move around when the muscle grows but uless you loose it you aint gonna see much !!!
13-03-2008, 10:55 PM
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urrrm, i dont eat rabbit food lol, i love chicken though 
. is pasta a good ting to eat? thats prob half my prob, i havnt been eating much, just one meal a day at around 6pm, dont eat at work
. is pasta a good ting to eat? thats prob half my prob, i havnt been eating much, just one meal a day at around 6pm, dont eat at work
13-03-2008, 11:02 PM
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one meal a day will leave you fighting a losing battle
when i was training "half decent" my missus said she couldnt afford to keep me as i was eating about 5-6 meals a day
when i was training "half decent" my missus said she couldnt afford to keep me as i was eating about 5-6 meals a day
13-03-2008, 11:14 PM
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alreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet stu just started hitting it hard myself eased myself back into it to start with but now i train every night after a very cardio based job it works perfect for me i actually do all my stretching off working lol a good whey protein shake with water in the 45 min window after training then one befor bed i was once trained by a very professional dude that said 3 times a weeks enough but the gym i now go to ive lernt different its very much dependant on yourself and your stamina im lifting more than i did now with the 5 year break since my accident than i was in the 10 years prior i do boxing twice a week also this keeps me loose and is a good strechacise i will have time were i wont train for a week like said you have to keep your muscles guessing or they get used to the routines on food the right foods many times a day can be very cheap if you make them all yourself keep it up tubz
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14-03-2008, 01:44 AM
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YOU WILL NEVER LOOSE FAT FROM YOUR BELLY IF... you only do ab exercises, you will stregnthn, tone and build ab muscles but you wont loose the fat.
You have to look into different types of cardio work to burn fat. lay of all the soft drinks, chocs, crisps etc if your trying to burn every ounce of fat away.
14-03-2008, 03:02 PM
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alright mate if your taking training seriously you really have to look at food differently more as fuel high carb and protien depending on what your after carbs baked potatoes rice pasta ect protien chicken fish these are my main sources i eat every 3 hours from 5am - 6pm then nothing befor bed but a protein shake i do allow myself 1 night a week of kebabs curries and all you can eat chinese buffets tho but i feel i earn these LOL ive got a mate that cheats he jabs his legs with decca its funny as fuck when he hits a vein and cant walk all his hairs fell out and hes got spots all over him ironic hes a massive lad but cant take his top off for spots and blebs all over him fuck that shit each to thier own aye
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