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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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anybody got a 240v 2 post lift at home? what they like to use being 240v and not 3 phase

I am looking in to moving house and when we do I will be having a large-ish gerage/workshop and will want a ramp is there anything to make sure of other than a good base to bolt it down to ect

also are the prefab building any good or is it worth the extra cash having a propper brick/ block building built?

any help/info will will be much appreciated
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my mate has a 240v and it works fine matt,no problems whatso ever ,regarding precast garages ,they are not a patch on a properly built garage of brick/block with a tile roof and a properly built garage shouldnt be that much more expensive either .
the floor for a 2 poster lift should be a minimum of 150mm with re-enforcing mesh.

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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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Cheers James, thats what I wanted to here!!
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Make sure there's room for two cars!!!
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Matt, we fitted one of these in Wennys workshop a couple of years back cant fall off for the price of them for a brand new lift

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Make sure there's room for two cars!!!
Sorry I am already taking booking and I haven't even moved/found a new house yet

Originally Posted by paul16v
Matt, we fitted one of these in Wennys workshop a couple of years back cant fall off for the price of them for a brand new lift

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-POST-LIFT-CA...item3caa45ba4b

Sweet cheers, have been looking at them ones on ebay look good for the money
have been offered a 3 phase one foc through work but by the time I have messed about getting it over to me fitting it and converting it to 240v its not gunna be worth the hassle + I want new stuff
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I am allowing a total of 10k for the workshop inc kitting it out with few nice bits like a good 200l compressor for a start
Will I get a 8m x7m workshop in brick or block with a propper tiled roof for 7k max?
dont mind doing some of te donkey work(digging out footings etc) my self but want a propper builder in as I will take forever otherwise

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Originally Posted by paul16v
Matt, we fitted one of these in Wennys workshop a couple of years back cant fall off for the price of them for a brand new lift

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-POST-LIFT-CA...item3caa45ba4b

I have the same lift from the same company they came and fitted it aswell. Its not worth buying S/H TBH the hassle of collecting and then trying to install it.

You will need a min height of 3.4 meters for the car to go up in the air, so i would say a prefab would be out of the question.

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Originally Posted by Matt Baxter
I am allowing a total of 10k for the workshop inc kitting it out with few nice bits like a good 200l compressor for a start
Will I get a 8m x7m workshop in brick or block with a propper tiled roof for 7k max?
dont mind doing some of te donkey work(digging out footings etc) my self but want a propper builder in as I will take forever otherwise
My garage is going to be around twice that size. The concrete alone is £3000. Blocks and bricks (3 block walls single skin) £3300. Then theres the roof, you might be able to do it for that. Depends on the roof. Mine will have a 2 poster in it.

Remember with a garage like that thought you'll have to build it fairly high, or allow a roof that can accommodate a lift.
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Originally Posted by Matt Baxter
I am allowing a total of 10k for the workshop inc kitting it out with few nice bits like a good 200l compressor for a start
Will I get a 8m x7m workshop in brick or block with a propper tiled roof for 7k max?
dont mind doing some of te donkey work(digging out footings etc) my self but want a propper builder in as I will take forever otherwise
Highly unlikely mate. My garage is not much bigger @ 10m x 7m and that cost me about 12k to get watertight. You know, roof on, doors in and nothing else. No electric (mine cost £1500!!) and no toys.

Mine is block on three walls and brick on the back wall with a metal roof not tiles. I think the concrete in my footings was £700, then a further £200 for crushed hardcore and another £700 for the floor. So to get upto ground level cost £1600 alone. thats without the hire of diggers, dumpers, whackers and pokers etc etc. I done all the work myself apart from laying the bricks and I had a friend that ran a hire company. I got alot of stuff cheap or free and had alot of help. Mine was definatley built on the cheap.

I think I have done a similar post to this one on here before with a better list of costs. Have a look through my posts, wont take long as I dont post much.
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Cheers guys

Like I said I am happy to do a bit my self (and by the looks of it I will have to) should be able to strecth the buget to 10k and add the lift/toys later
Will have a propper measure up as for space I want to be able to get 2 cars in and be able to work around them but guessing 8m x 7m would be about right
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Mate I done ALL mine myself apart from laying the bricks. You may get it done for 10k but I'm telling you I had alot of help in skills, labour, freebies and cheap materials!

If its for 2 cars then the space is ample. But it will never be enough. You will always fill the space with spares, tools and crap and wish you went bigger. Go as big as you possibly can. With all the storage in mine I can get 2 cars in to work on, three at a push and thats with a garage that can accomodate 6 cars with nothing else!
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Ive got 2 ramps in my unit not only to work on but i can store 2 more cars aswell being as you can stack them with ramps.
I paid £1000 for 2 Hoffman Ramps which we installed ourselves. best things i ever bought makes things so much easier.
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Hi,

Just Finishing mine off.

Had me own digger, did everything myself except laying the concrete base, (but had to re-do a bit of it as it was naff for getting my 2post lift anchors to hold on one side) !!

Did all the Block work, (it's 2 storeys high) made my own 6x2 roof trusses, has 2 levels upper floor for storage, wired it all meself, plumbed in and installed sink and water heater + drainage. It's 7 x 6m, just has felt on roof ATM and outside walls aren't harled yet.......gonna slate the roof and harl it in the summer (another 2k materials)

Took me a year of spare time and about 9k so far, that doesn't include the 4 tonne 2 poster brand new £1600 quid cash, delivered but not installed, nor any other tools or equipment most of which I brought up from England when I moved.

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Get some pics up dave...
Will do later in week hopefully, got a load to upload onto Photobucket, then will post some

PS Like the look of yr Sapphire, will also post a pic of my last project....sold now but was 24V 4x4 cosie rep lovely drive n fast as fook !!

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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by paul16v
Matt, we fitted one of these in Wennys workshop a couple of years back cant fall off for the price of them for a brand new lift

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-POST-LIFT-CA...item3caa45ba4b

I'v the same as this too.The only down side i have is that its slow to go down but perfect for home use
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The descent rate is adjustable, on the side of the valve block you will find a locknout and screw, simply un lock it and screw it out a little at a time until you get the required descent rate. Due to oil viscosity, they will descend slower in cold temperatures than hot.
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Originally Posted by Dave2302
The descent rate is adjustable, on the side of the valve block you will find a locknout and screw, simply un lock it and screw it out a little at a time until you get the required descent rate. Due to oil viscosity, they will descend slower in cold temperatures than hot.
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Must try that at the weekend.Thanks
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Austin101, yeah they are bit slow to come down, even worse when its cold but they do fly down with a LWB transit on them
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Austin101, yeah they are bit slow to come down, even worse when its cold but they do fly down with a LWB transit on them
Paul, see thread bove on how to adjust, adjust it with a light car on, then when you have a Transit etc just don't push the descent lever as hard !!

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You could use an invertor to get 3 phase power matt.
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Austin,

Looks slightly different to mine, but wots under the plastic cover ?? What about on the other side??

Mine's got a 17mm spanner size nut locking a screw with a flat screwdriver slot in it. But AFAIK all hydraulic 2 posters will have an adjustment on them, your looking in the right area lol !!

If you have the exact make and model of the lift the instructions should be on the 'net.

Mine is a "Silent Technology" 4 tonne 2 poster, single phase.
Goes up just as quick as the 3 phase ones I had at the workshop in Kent, before I sold up and moved up here.

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Austin,

Looks slightly different to mine, but wots under the plastic cover ?? What about on the other side??

Mine's got a 17mm spanner size nut locking a screw with a flat screwdriver slot in it. But AFAIK all hydraulic 2 posters will have an adjustment on them, your looking in the right area lol !!

If you have the exact make and model of the lift the instructions should be on the 'net.

Mine is a "Silent Technology" 4 tonne 2 poster, single phase.
Goes up just as quick as the 3 phase ones I had at the workshop in Kent, before I sold up and moved up here.

Regards Dave
Its the same dave as yours just that mine as a cap on it.But do you screw it in or out to increase the flow?
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Out to increase descent rate (oil flow), In to decrease

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Would love a 2 post ramp at home lol
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proper built garages cost a fortune, mines just over a double and its a prefab structure so cheap.

the roof is being replaced and we are currently building a 3rd garage sized block built structure on the side as a shed/garage.

Once thats up its going to get a new roof and the prfab is going to be cemented and insulated making it a better structure.

Im hoping once its done it will be really nice but looks terrible at the moment lol.

Im doing it all on a budget and so far looks as if without the main roof and the fact that i already had the prefab bit about £1000 will see it done.

Will be basically a 3 car garage but with 2 garage doors and 1 being a shed/workshop/engine room/tool room, all being connected.
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Cheers guys

Like I said I am happy to do a bit my self (and by the looks of it I will have to) should be able to strecth the buget to 10k and add the lift/toys later
Will have a propper measure up as for space I want to be able to get 2 cars in and be able to work around them but guessing 8m x 7m would be about right
Hi i built mine out of posts and base panels then used 4x2 for the outside and roof i also have a ramp at home mine is outside and is 240v converted from 3 phase but was a bit of an headache getting wiring sorted but well worth it in the end lots of 2nd hand ramps on ebay.
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Hi Guys,

I'm not so sure a decnt block built workshop will cost you a fortune.....

I built mine in my spare time out of "spare pocket cash" over a 12 month period. Its 6" - 8" concrete base, 6m x 7m.

As I was buying stuff as I went along, I didn't really see the money go out in a big lump and therefore didn't miss it. Also no labour costs involved.

I've never built anything this big before, the odd garden wall lol. But re the blockwork, you go really slow at first taking your time to get it as straight and level as poss. You find the further up you go the better and quicker you get !!

As for the 2 post lifts, I looked at s/h, but they are usually well used have to be collected and a lot are 3 phase, meaning more work / expense.

Mine was brand new, 4 tonne 2 post, hydraulic, (in both posts).

This means no screws and nuts or cables to wear out, and a guarantee.
It was delivered to me in a remote location in NW Scotland for £1600 cash. EVen came with a drum of hydraulic oil and the bolts to hold it down!!

When it arrived the guys helped me lift it off their truck and stand the posts up in position.

All up without tools and eqpt, I guess the workshop and 2 poster stands me about 10k.

However this workshop is very high (2 storeys) with stairs and split level loft space, new racking, 6x2 roof trusses, heavy duty felt with slate on top, 2 barn doors each end (drive thru), full ring main, loads of double 5ft fluorescents, hot and cold water and a sink / worktop (essential for coffee and hand washing) lol, a 8ft x 3ft steel bench, (will hold big engines safely), Radio / stereo system, shelves, s/h double glazed winows etc etc.

I had several quotes to build it from local builders, which didn't include water, electrics, workbench, shelves, etc and they ranged from 18k to 25k.

So if you can commit a bit of time, and stop going to the pub spending dosh lol, (I don't mean that nastily, it's just how I funded mine), then DIY is the way to go.

HTH some of you to get the workshop of yr dreams on the cheep.

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any pics? i'd love to have the space/money to do something like this!
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any pics? i'd love to have the space/money to do something like this!
Yeah lol, go back 6 posts !!

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Nice looking little workshop dave, where did you get the ramp from please?
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Nice looking little workshop dave, where did you get the ramp from please?

HJS Garage Equipment, ring Paul Burnie on 01698-361526 / 07785-718202
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I just wish i had a garage never mind a 2 post ramp.
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How about building like these..

7k without any ground work, can be made secure easy. Smaller ones are less money too.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GEMINI-STEEL-B...item2a06ad6a88

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OK, this is mine and it cost around 12k to be built and watertight. The only money out of that that went to a tradesman was the brickie @ £1500. All other work was done by myself and friends. Its 10m x 7m, fits 6 cars with nothing else but is a nice 2/3 car carage for working on them.

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I would still like a ramp but they just take up too much space and get in the way. It would have to be in the centre of the garage for the roof height and would mean I lose alot of space and manouvering ability because of the posts. I'm not sure the pros outweight the cons?? Depends on what your doing to your car I guess.

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Kieron i have worked in garages that have had a one post or single sided lift that might fit the billl for the workshop ...Neil
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I've thought of a one post lift Neil but I haven't looked into it yet as I'm sure they are well out of my proce range. One day though.
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