petrol boycot
13-10-2007, 02:19 PM
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petrol boycot
See what you think and pass it on if you agree with it
We are hitting 95p a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced
with paying £1 a ltr. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain
day campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil
companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't
continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of
an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever
thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.
Please read it and join in!
Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take
aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place
not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we
consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the
price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not
purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting
ourselves. Here's the idea: For the rest of this year DON'T purchase
ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one),
ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any petrol, they will be
inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the
other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we
need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's
really simple to do!!
Now, don't whimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll
explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to
at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at
least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the
message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached
over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and
pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... ..
THREE HUNDRED MILLIONPEOPLE!!!
Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and
not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us
sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt,
all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the
next 8days!!! Acting together we can make a difference If this makes
sense to you, please pass this message on.
PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE
RANGE
It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your
petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc. i.e.
boycott BP and Esso
We are hitting 95p a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced
with paying £1 a ltr. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain
day campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil
companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't
continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of
an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever
thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.
Please read it and join in!
Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take
aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place
not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we
consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the
price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not
purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting
ourselves. Here's the idea: For the rest of this year DON'T purchase
ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one),
ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any petrol, they will be
inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the
other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we
need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's
really simple to do!!
Now, don't whimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll
explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to
at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at
least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the
message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached
over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and
pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... ..
THREE HUNDRED MILLIONPEOPLE!!!
Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and
not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us
sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt,
all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the
next 8days!!! Acting together we can make a difference If this makes
sense to you, please pass this message on.
PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE
RANGE
It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your
petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc. i.e.
boycott BP and Esso
13-10-2007, 02:25 PM
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Jeezas this mail should be on Discovery Home & Leisure its been repeated so many times...
We are a nation of lazy b'stards and the only way you provoke the British man into any form of action it back him right into a corner, call his mother a ho and poke him with a stick..... then you might get a reaction..
If we were french we'd be burning lorries loads of sheep in the street in protest........
We are a nation of lazy b'stards and the only way you provoke the British man into any form of action it back him right into a corner, call his mother a ho and poke him with a stick..... then you might get a reaction..
If we were french we'd be burning lorries loads of sheep in the street in protest........
13-10-2007, 02:30 PM
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Don't Esso provide most if not all of Tescos petrol anyway?
Either way, I'll bet the office junior at Morrisons who thought this chain email up will get a decent bonus if anyones stupid enough to believe it'll make any difference whatsoever.
We'd also still have outdoor toilets, smell of garlic and be crap at war.
Either way, I'll bet the office junior at Morrisons who thought this chain email up will get a decent bonus if anyones stupid enough to believe it'll make any difference whatsoever.
Originally Posted by neilm
If we were french we'd be burning lorries loads of sheep in the street in protest........
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13-10-2007, 02:34 PM
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You can not get the pump price to 69p per litre by only hitting the supliers as iirc there cut of every pound is about 22% ,the goverment is the main taker from petrol in tax and vat ..................so what a well thought out plan this is ........because i can not so the fuel companys selling at a loss 
IT THE GOVERMENT THAT REQUIRES ACTION TAKING AGAINST IT, AS THE MOST RECENT RISE WAS FROM THEM
IT THE GOVERMENT THAT REQUIRES ACTION TAKING AGAINST IT, AS THE MOST RECENT RISE WAS FROM THEM
13-10-2007, 02:37 PM
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you lot think you got in rough with cars
try owning a boat bloody eu stuck there noses in and from november next year it will go up big style at the moment ant the club where we keep the boat it is 43p a litre it will rise to between £1.23 - £1.50 a litre
try owning a boat bloody eu stuck there noses in and from november next year it will go up big style at the moment ant the club where we keep the boat it is 43p a litre it will rise to between £1.23 - £1.50 a litre
13-10-2007, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by neilm
We are a nation of lazy b'stards and the only way you provoke the British man into any form of action it back him right into a corner, call his mother a ho and poke him with a stick..... then you might get a reaction..........
its a good enough idea but getting folk to stick to it would be difficult.i boycot bp and esso anyway but only because i only use shell v-power.
isnt petrol a very small part of the companies profits so wont cause them much of a headache?
and isnt the goverments fuel tax levels more to blame for the high prices?
13-10-2007, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Smit
Boycot petrol? 
What about self employed builders/plumbers etc who need their vans for work?
They're really going to boycot it ain't they
What about self employed builders/plumbers etc who need their vans for work?
They're really going to boycot it ain't they
13-10-2007, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
and isnt the goverments fuel tax levels more to blame for the high prices?
And the hippy tree hugging wanks dont help either, as they have most of the world brainwashed now into believe all this gobal warming BS.
14-10-2007, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by silver
Esso and Shell are the same company.
I have seen £1.04 here this week.
I have seen £1.04 here this week.
i was that bp102 today at 262p/litre
and, what's more, there was a keypad on the pump and to get fueled up, you have to go into the shop and get a code first
how bonkers is that
14-10-2007, 09:48 AM
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FFS - this mail has done the rounds for so long now - at least as long as I have been driving - and thats 8yrs!
It will never work for the reasons already stated above....
1) Buyers do not control the market place - the government does (at least as far as fuel goes)
2) Virtually nobody would boycott any particular petrol station/company if it is going to inconvenience them - I mean you live in a little town, the only fuel station for 20-30miles is a single ESSO - you gonna boycott it are you?
3) Not buying fuel won't make the fuel companies lower prices - as said, they have a tiny percentage of the cost of a litre anyway, it's the government that keep inflating the duty on fuel making it more expensive
4) Not buying fuel only hurts us anyway, as we need it. And "time period" boycotts are the most pointless thing ever. I know, lets not buy fuel this week. Then the following week, twice as much fuel is bought. Yeah, good one
It will never work for the reasons already stated above....
1) Buyers do not control the market place - the government does (at least as far as fuel goes)
2) Virtually nobody would boycott any particular petrol station/company if it is going to inconvenience them - I mean you live in a little town, the only fuel station for 20-30miles is a single ESSO - you gonna boycott it are you?
3) Not buying fuel won't make the fuel companies lower prices - as said, they have a tiny percentage of the cost of a litre anyway, it's the government that keep inflating the duty on fuel making it more expensive
4) Not buying fuel only hurts us anyway, as we need it. And "time period" boycotts are the most pointless thing ever. I know, lets not buy fuel this week. Then the following week, twice as much fuel is bought. Yeah, good one
14-10-2007, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mick_rst
Its a fucking joke tho'
105.9p per / L here for super.....
105.9p per / L here for super.....
Originally Posted by dojj
Originally Posted by silver
Esso and Shell are the same company.
I have seen £1.04 here this week.
I have seen £1.04 here this week.
i was that bp102 today at 262p/litre
and, what's more, there was a keypad on the pump and to get fueled up, you have to go into the shop and get a code first
how bonkers is that
Even if it would inconvenience customers.
Although I know some 24hr stations used to do this over here....any that did, I went elsewhere lol
14-10-2007, 11:27 AM
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I had to buy some petrol the other day for 115.9 !!!!!!!!!!!!! It was either that or run out. 
Im spending around £150-£200+ a week on diesel too, every penny it increases affects me a fair bit over the month.
It was either that or run out. Im spending around £150-£200+ a week on diesel too, every penny it increases affects me a fair bit over the month.
to brown while i'm at it
14-10-2007, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Thrush
1) Buyers do not control the market place - the government does (at least as far as fuel goes)
Or certainly COULD control the market if they could get organised, but as a nation we are now a country of selfish fucks only looking out for number one.
But what I want to know is what happened to that bloke and all his mates who blockaded all the petrol depots with their lorries when the price was no where near what it is now.
It did force a temporary slow down in prices but now they are back up the hauliers must be suffering.
14-10-2007, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by S1rst
Im spending around £150-£200+ a week on diesel too, every penny it increases affects me a fair bit over the month.
Then start running it on veg oil
14-10-2007, 12:06 PM
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Thing is, what a lot of people fail to understand is that the price of fuel controls virtually everything in terms of retail. The price of a can of coke is affected by the price of fuel. The more fule goes up, the more companies, distributers, hauliers, etc have to spend, thus the price of goods rises.
So look at it from the government's point of view. They raise the duty on fuel and gain some money from it. As a result the price of goods/products delivered to shops/etc goes up as running costs increased with the fuel price increase. When the price of a product goes up, the ammount of VAT, being a percentage, also increases. Ooh look - the government made a little more money....
I do not belive the buyer controls the market in this kind of case. The government do. And I'm sorry but I fail to see how the British public can influence the government on a large enough scale to force them to reduce the tax levied on fuel - as lets face it, our governments, in one form or another, have been fucking us for years - why would they "lose" money to us now?
So look at it from the government's point of view. They raise the duty on fuel and gain some money from it. As a result the price of goods/products delivered to shops/etc goes up as running costs increased with the fuel price increase. When the price of a product goes up, the ammount of VAT, being a percentage, also increases. Ooh look - the government made a little more money....
I do not belive the buyer controls the market in this kind of case. The government do. And I'm sorry but I fail to see how the British public can influence the government on a large enough scale to force them to reduce the tax levied on fuel - as lets face it, our governments, in one form or another, have been fucking us for years - why would they "lose" money to us now?
14-10-2007, 12:07 PM
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we run around 80 vans, 5 days a week
most of these vans will cover between 1000 and 1500 miles a week (with the mileage per van ranging from between 150,000 and 186,000 miles over a 3 year lease) so you can see how much we'll be forking out extra
and, because they give shitty mileage anyway, we get probably 250 miles to a 50 litre tank from the connects and between 350 and 400 miles per 80 litre tank for the vito's (give or take 10 litres per tank per van) and you can see how much prices are going up
and we've got a £6,000,000 per year budget
5.5 miles per litre of fuel
1 litre = extra 3p
so for us it equals around a £1.50 increase per tank
spread that cost over 3 years and it gives us an extra costing of around £900 over 3 years
that's assuming prices will stay as they are
so spread over the total fleet that's an extra £72,000
and that's just the vans, what about the fleet of cars we run? mostly deisels as well? every nurse has one and everyone in manegement upwards has one so that's another 4-500 cars to add to the equation
and all of a sudden, it's closer to half a million quid over 3 years
again, gordon brown, you are a cunt
most of these vans will cover between 1000 and 1500 miles a week (with the mileage per van ranging from between 150,000 and 186,000 miles over a 3 year lease) so you can see how much we'll be forking out extra
and, because they give shitty mileage anyway, we get probably 250 miles to a 50 litre tank from the connects and between 350 and 400 miles per 80 litre tank for the vito's (give or take 10 litres per tank per van) and you can see how much prices are going up
and we've got a £6,000,000 per year budget
5.5 miles per litre of fuel
1 litre = extra 3p
so for us it equals around a £1.50 increase per tank
spread that cost over 3 years and it gives us an extra costing of around £900 over 3 years
that's assuming prices will stay as they are
so spread over the total fleet that's an extra £72,000
and that's just the vans, what about the fleet of cars we run? mostly deisels as well? every nurse has one and everyone in manegement upwards has one so that's another 4-500 cars to add to the equation
and all of a sudden, it's closer to half a million quid over 3 years
again, gordon brown, you are a cunt
14-10-2007, 12:09 PM
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Especially since now the government have their new angle of attack - Global Warming. A legalised scam that allows the powers that be to increase tax on everything from fuel for cars, jets, boats, etc to fucking plasma TV's, citing that they are doing it to curb spending and "over use" as these things are bad for the environment!
Same reason they will never make cigarettes illegal - there is too much tax revenue from cigs and alcohol for the gov's to ban it, so they just "pretend" they are doing something positive towards getting rid of it (such as banning smoking from certain places etc) but they will never outright ban it as a whole, as they'd lose too much money....
Same reason they will never make cigarettes illegal - there is too much tax revenue from cigs and alcohol for the gov's to ban it, so they just "pretend" they are doing something positive towards getting rid of it (such as banning smoking from certain places etc) but they will never outright ban it as a whole, as they'd lose too much money....
14-10-2007, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
and, because they give shitty mileage anyway, we get probably 250 miles to a 50 litre tank from the connects
If thats the case i definatly wont be going for the connect for a small van next time, and i suggest you go for the combo's next time round too. You'd save a bloody fortune. I get over double that, and get a consistent 48 mpg from my combo, and even just over 40 mpg on a full day doing multi-drop in town.
14-10-2007, 04:51 PM
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You want change, RIOT like fuck, get millions of us doing it.
Every underfunded government agency will collapse under the strain and the people can run themselves instead of the power crazed hippies we currently have.
BTW, I just watched Equilibrium which probably explains the above.
Oh, Global Warming. How stuck up our own arses are we if we believe since the Industrial Revolution, warming is entirely our fault. Its not been proven its not a natural cycle in the Earth's life. Aren't we due an Ice Age soon??
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Every underfunded government agency will collapse under the strain and the people can run themselves instead of the power crazed hippies we currently have.
BTW, I just watched Equilibrium which probably explains the above.
Oh, Global Warming. How stuck up our own arses are we if we believe since the Industrial Revolution, warming is entirely our fault. Its not been proven its not a natural cycle in the Earth's life. Aren't we due an Ice Age soon??
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14-10-2007, 10:28 PM
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you were complaining about tax in general
S1rst
our vans are fully refridgereated so they have the pumps going all the time, plus the extra wieght of the insulation etc and the drag of the cooler on the tops all adds up
with the vito's, driven frugrally and with the fridges turned off, you could just about get into the 60 mpg mark, driving the same with the fridge on would get you closer to the 35 mpg mark
with the fridge on and driving like a loon it was about 35 mpg and with the fridge on it was closer to the 22 mpg mark
and seeing as the fridges on the connects are not of the switch on/off able kind, there is no way to gauge how much better they would be
plus we have the high tops and even with the extra space that gives, the insulation takes up a hell of a lot of space, ther is twice as much in the vito and it's only another 18 inches longer and an inch shorter in overall hieght
you were complaining about tax in general
S1rst
our vans are fully refridgereated so they have the pumps going all the time, plus the extra wieght of the insulation etc and the drag of the cooler on the tops all adds up
with the vito's, driven frugrally and with the fridges turned off, you could just about get into the 60 mpg mark, driving the same with the fridge on would get you closer to the 35 mpg mark
with the fridge on and driving like a loon it was about 35 mpg and with the fridge on it was closer to the 22 mpg mark
and seeing as the fridges on the connects are not of the switch on/off able kind, there is no way to gauge how much better they would be
plus we have the high tops and even with the extra space that gives, the insulation takes up a hell of a lot of space, ther is twice as much in the vito and it's only another 18 inches longer and an inch shorter in overall hieght
14-10-2007, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrush
Especially since now the government have their new angle of attack - Global Warming.
Margaret Thatcher invented Global Warming......
14-10-2007, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrush
I do not belive the buyer controls the market in this kind of case. The government do. And I'm sorry but I fail to see how the British public can influence the government on a large enough scale to force them to reduce the tax levied on fuel - as lets face it, our governments, in one form or another, have been fucking us for years - why would they "lose" money to us now?
And when there were the fuel blockades back in 2001 it did force the government to do something albeit a fairly short lived thing but the protestors lost their bottle so didnt keep up the pressure when prices started to rise again.
The reason the government has to keep imposing 'stealth taxes' is because the average british whinger always wants to pay less tax...
But the Piper always has to be paid... so the money has to come from somewhere so if its not direct from wages in increased income tax it has to be from other places.
This is a fact of life..... get over it... move on.
14-10-2007, 11:52 PM
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Oh, Global Warming. How stuck up our own arses are we if we believe since the Industrial Revolution, warming is entirely our fault. Its not been proven its not a natural cycle in the Earth's life. Aren't we due an Ice Age soon??
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*IPCC fourth report
RE ice age, Still might happen yet, melting ice caps dilute salt water, so the hot gulf stream water stops flowing and we get colder.
Go across from England in a stright line at the height of manchester, and look at the weather in Canada
15-10-2007, 08:27 AM
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dojj, thats understandable then being re-fridgerated. I knew they would be worse than normal but didnt realise they'd be that much difference. I was looking into doing frozen/chilled courier work with another van, and now i realise why they charge the earth for same day.
Vito sounds like good mpg with the fridge off though.
Vito sounds like good mpg with the fridge off though.
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