Rob_ECossie

Just had my escort cossie took off me by the police, apparently before I bought it someone traded it in for a shogun which turned out to be stolen. This guy has then found this out 5 months later and reported his cossie stolen by deception, so now I'm left with no money and no car and over 10k in debt.

Ain't life a bitch!!

Anyone know how the hell I can get my money back, coz I know for sure I can't afford to lose over 10 grand!!!

Dave Henshall

did u check all the usual HPI and past owners checks?

vroooom ptssssh

Shit the boat thats not good, REALLY sorry to hear that mate, hope u get your money back somehow thieving SCUM

ballin

iTrader: (1)

shit mate gutted for you, doubt there's anything you can do tho, maybe sue the person you bought it off i dunno

Shings

I'm confused, can you do that- Surely you brought it fair and square.

Surely the issue is the other persons and not your problem.

Time for the solicitors I think

J

Rob_ECossie

Yeah when I bought it I did a HPi check on my fone and obviously it came back clear, the law is an arse, it shouldn't be down to me to give this bloke his money back it should be upto him to get it back from the bloke he bought it off!

I'm totally gutted beyond words.

gurnE

Seriously bad luck mate

Speak to HPi

They cover you for shit like this don't they??

swerv

so he is basically asking for his car back because he was caught out??

pay him a "friendly" visit if i were you, i would

Phil

iTrader: (1)

Call a lawyer now!

He's obviously mates with the plod if you ask me!

Kev.H

i agree HPI im sure cover u for this kinda thing else time to speak to a lawyer or ya insurance

Rob_ECossie

I'm not sure if they do when you check it by fone, turned out as well the private plate that was on it when i bought it was taken off 2 months before I got it, yet was still on the car when I bought it, and also it had been repaired down the drivers side, front and rear wing and door, yet my mate has worked on cossies all his life and he couldn't even tell.

ballin

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by law he is in the right i think, however if you HPI'd it then you have a case with them i imagine!!!!

Jimboxr4x4

The police shouldn't have taken your car as your car is not actually stolen. This is a civil dispute. Definately go and see a solicitor as you are no way to blame for this.

Lee Reynolds

Solicitor for sure this aint right

MikeR

i would contact a solicitor first thing in the morning and find out were you stand then if you are in the right sue him and the police for what they have done, if you are in the wrong check with HPI and take it to the civial claims court because you have just been fucked mate .


mike

Jon S.A.C

You are not in the wrong matey,sounds like he didnt carry out the neccessary checks on the Shogun.Visit your solicitor asap.

JAP CRAP

almost exactly what happened to my next door neighbour

just kick up serious fuss with everyone. dont just lie down and except it. YOu should claim your money back off whoever you bought it from if they are still in business (if trader).

sorry to hear that though mate

Rob_ECossie

Couldn't believe it, I only found out coz I was gonna sue the guy for the value of the private plate it should have had on it, did a HPi check with AA on thursday and it said it had been reported stolen while it was in my custody, its all bollocks if u ask me and I think I shall be suing the police and the twat I bought it off, even if he didn't know about it being nicked, whats to say he hasn't shifted some like this before.

Rob_ECossie

Yeah the guy was a trader dealing from home. So I suppose its time to fuck him for my money back then.

tracktoy

sounds wrong to me, the trader is at fault

get your money back

AndyRST

I dont understand how it can be reported stolen. Did you paid for it? , did you have a reciept to say you paid for it?, did you trade a car in when you bought it?

If you paid fully for it and have a reciept for it then the guy doesnt have a leg to stand on and the police have acted illegally

Rob_ECossie

I have a receipt for my money, signed and dated with the traders address on it. I paid for it in one go with no trade in. And one thing, I've still got the service history file for the fucker tho! And i'm keeping that! Forgot to mention its had over 10k spent on it in 5 years as well.

To be honest I don't want the car back at all knowing its been in a crash, I just want my money back. I wouldn't mind a nice saff or maybe a 740i bmw for a bit of comfort.

Rob_ECossie

Coppers have just said to me that their onto it immediately and the guy I bought it off will be getting a visit very soon. They said hopefully I should get at least my money back for it.

Martyn

Thats a nightmare, hope u get something back... Good luck

darren.cudd

shit! hope you get it all sorted mate some people need shooting!

Phil

iTrader: (1)

So did the coppers take it or the guy you bought it off??

If they now say that it sounds like they may not know exactly what to do either!

A bit far fetched but it could have even been someone impersionating a copper to take the car away from you!

Chris Honeywell

Shit m8 that is sooo wrong
really hope you get you money back

deleted

this totally unfair but true

say you had bought a car in good faith ( like this situation) and it had outstanding finace on it by the previous owner, the finance company can legally take the car from you to recover the debt tottaly unfair but totally legal its the innocent person that loses his money and the car, same if its stolen and the prevois owner has been payed out by insurance it then becomes the insurance company property like in this case

talk to solicitors as its in your best interest but dont expect it to be settled quickly it will take months / years to come to a conclusion

Adrian

I was thinking this too.

hope it gets sorted for you though.

James Raby

iTrader: (1)

I wouldn't have let it go
The fact it's been in an accident is ittelevent if repaired properly - what's the poing in worrying over something so trivial compared to this kind of mess!

If you paid for it and got receipt etc for it, it's all down to civil dispute, if bought at auction is a different matter anyway

FastFordChris

thats fraud as well as insurance fraud the bloke can go to prison for that!

steviecossie

thats fucking shit i would get my lawyer involved if i was or go and visit the guy with a baseball bat.

righthooker

this is bolox ,the guy who bought the dodgy shogun didnt do his hpi check on that and let his cosworth go.You buy it legit and then cos the dick finds out the jeep is a wrongun he calls plod and says his car is stolen your having a laugh,straight to your solicitors first thing and get it sorted mate.your hpi dont show it stolen cos it wasn`t.

Honda Girl

Hello,

My company deals with this type of situation.

Have a read of our websites - www.cma.uk.com and www.car-crime.com.

My boss deals with innocent purchaser claims but he is on holiday until Tues 12th. Im sure he can give you some advice free, or will take over the claim on your behalf. I believe he charges about Ł120 plus VAT, but dont quote me on that.

My take on it is this - the title of the car was passed to the person you bought it from by the previous owner. The vendor then passed the title of the vehicle to you. The fact the Shogun then turns out to be stolen is a matter between the previous keeper and the trader.

Think of it this way - if the guy paid cash for the shogun, would he report that stolen?!!! No, he would just have a claim against the trader for selling him a stolen vehicle. He should have HPI'd it. His problem, not yours.

I could be wrong though! Have a chat with my boss, Phillip Swift.

Good luck mate
Karen

Ginge !

na sounds wrong to me too mate, i wouldnt have let it goe tbh


think ya will find the police with either give it back to the ewner and do fook all else or they will keep in a lockup hoping ya wont contact em about it and then its poilice auction time


its the trader that owes him the money not you, he cant report it nicked as its not fooking nicked, hes purchased a stolen car, he gots his money back from the trader simple as, its just obviuosly he cant get the money off the trader and so the guy is pulling a fast one hoping it will be resloved

think ya gonna have to have serious words with a court matey as i cant see why they take the car off ya as it was NEVER actually stolen


tkaes the piss that YET AGAIN the incoent small person is the first to be screwed

get a hpi and if ya dont get ya money back padlock all the doors, cover the windows and set fire to his hosue till he give ya you moneys back as now its been stolen from you


or can ya not claim your car ya sold or the debt for the car back from the companys as the car ya biught was stolen by deception and pass the buck on again


infact where does it stop, you gcould go on for years all people who bought the cars after will claim em back ect

i would have tourched the car infroint of the copper and told him to stick it

M7 COS

That's really unlucky mate.

I feel for you I really do.

Hopefully you'll be able to get it sorted!

The Youth.

iTrader: (1)

As said the cossie is not stolen, so must be returned to you, the other matter is between the trader and previous owner together with the police.
to put it bluntly the cossie has nothing to do with it only it's value in the transaction between pevious owner and trader.
steve

DazC

iTrader: (1)

I agree with all the people who say the matter is between the trader and the previous owner. The car is rightfully yours...

Go get your car back.

apples24

this serously sucks my thoughts are too that you will get ure car back but how fookin depressing, you buy a car hpi it do everything right and it still happens


the bloke who traded it in is in the wrong. thats the law process for ya, its part of a crime ie evidence so the convisgate it, ya will without a doub get it back after a battle as bought good faith etc but thats soooo wrong and very upsetting, i fell for you i truley do

good luck and all the best

Rs Baz

i would say this is your car mate and you should get it back if not the trader should give you your money back, if he can get the car back of you he should give you your money back, you did say the first time that you did a hpi report on it and that it was o.k, get back in touch with who did the report for you and see if thay will send a copy to you so you can take the matter further with your solicitor.

good luck