I have been considering what car to buy myself this year. But every time I re-visit the topic the cost of running a car just keeps going up. But conversely the cost of public transport has gone up too! So you can't win either way.

Was at a Honda dealership today and they had the Honda CR-Z and looking at the running costs I was seriously considering it Not fast at all with a 0-60 in 10sec. But 56mpg Combined and road tax at £30 for the year! Can't really complain about that can you. Besides it wont be long I recon before someone finds out how to make it less green

How can we not consider these sorts of cars anymore with the cost of things now

 

Fuck it I refuse to be priced out of my car by the thieving wank stains in power. Bastards!!! Grrrr

 

This is exactally what they want to do, force people to buy smaller, more economical cars. i say unless you financially cant afford to run a certain car, fuck them.

 

Isny it more harmful to the enveroment making these electric cars than running petrol cars??

 

Yup apparently the chemicals in the batteries are very bad for the environment and the energy taken to make the batteries as well.

So are we gonna get hit by some environmental tax when it comes to scrapping these electric pieces of shit.

The answer is hydrogen fuel cells and the only emmisions is water.

Think Honda already have one.

LPG does not work cos nobody sells it really and the conversion cost will mean you need to keep the car for 10 years to make it worth the expense.

My girlfriend had a 1.5dci Clio that did 60mpg and cost about £55 to tax for a year but it was abit slow.

Personally I think annual mileage should be taken into consideration when calculating road tax and not just emmisions. Some folk have gutsy weekend toys and do very little mileage so why should they be taxed the same as someone doing 30k miles a year in a similar car.

 

My new lady has one of these, does reall well on the fuel front but makes my tank feel like a road going missile after being in it. Works for her though and she loves it

 

I know what your saying fella, but getting back into a car, and one that I will use to travel for work and probably end up sitting in traffic in... I really really can't think of an alternative at the moment

 

Small turbo stuff looks the way it may go and as said batt power still not good enought , lean burn engines the best way I think , but most of this will never save the planet because thares a good chance its not in danger anyhow.more just fear than real.

 

I currently run an old car that averages around 30mpg, I already use it as little as possible due to the price of fuel.
Currently looking to change jobs and aiming to get a job close enough to home so I can do without the car completely.
Pisses me off but I refuse to have the piss taken on fuel prices.

 

I was reading about a Seat today. 76mpg and £0 tax. Diesel of course, and gutless. Charlie

 

Was looking at the spec of an Ibiza Cupra 1.4TSi Boganegro that was for sale today, low emissions so low tax, 180bhp, 0-60 in 7 secs, top speed of 140mph, 44mpg average, Seat Sport (AP Racing) brakes option, and quite a reasonable insurance group too... plus, a basic remap will see c215bhp from it from what I've seen on the net.

I think cars like this are 100% the way forward.


Cheers,
Grant

 

But of a silly statement that LPG doesnt work.

Buy a car with a conversion, and you pay no extra cost. And the only people it wouldnt pay for when getting a conversion, is an economical car where the owner never drives the bloody thing.

IMO French cars dont work, they are just plain shit and break down lol

 

All the mistakes have been made by those in power we can only work with wot were given so if you kill off local job we have to use cars more, if you send work off to far flung lands it takes lots of shipping to move goods and the raw stuff to make it and then the cost, high to you and me shit wage for the bloke that made it large profit for the company .

 

wow that sounds awsome!!!!!!!

 

so it's cheaper for you to fork out for a "new" car than it is to buy a 10 year old motor that will still return 40-50 mpg?

 

It is if I intend to keep the new car for 10 years

 

The little Citoren c2 vts hdi's are pretty impressive 65mpg 110hp £30 road tax & after a remap wont hang around thats what i keep looking at although i do like the comfort of my A4 tdi but really hate waisting / giving money to the goverment & want the best mpg possible with the cost of fuel continuing to rise but still need alittle bit of performance so they dont seem a bad option...

 

wtf does 'going forward' mean? do you just mean in the future? it's one of my pet hates with twats at work that come out with bullshit language like that to try and make themselves look clever

the future should be smaller, lighter vehicles with turbocharged engines, as well as more hybrids (where it's not just about batteries being polluting, they help through recovering energy normally lost through braking). it should be more about car sharing lanes like in usa, and ther should be more benefits for motorcycles.

it is a luxury to sit on your own in your own space on the road, so you should have to pay for it.

 

if it gets too bad im trading in my golf gti and focus RS for something thats a happy medium.....maybe one of the newer golf GT TDI models or the twincharged GT model

 

Hydrogen is clean at the point of use but you need lots of electricity in the manufacturing process to separate the gas in the first place.

Personally I'd stick the tax on the fuel so that mileage and pollution are both taken into account, but suspect it wouldn't be long after that before we'd have to pay £300 a year to display a disc showing we have an MOT and insurance!

 

Actually now that you have said that I had to anally guesstimate the costs And its about the same

 

fuck it im gonna start robbing fuel tankers!!

 

A luxury ? how do you figure that ?

I see it as a necessity for work. Nothing luxurious about it unless you're the royal family in a Rolls Royce. And it seems that I pay for that too !

 

if your a petrol head no way will you end up driving the same car for ten years, so that wont work out

 

I see no reason why not.

Use the cheapest most cost effective car you can for daily transport, which leaves the savings for the fun car.

I can see no reason to spend a fortune giving the government money for more fuel than needed, just to sit in traffic jams.

 

TBH i can see this coming.Its gonna end up like mad max in (not so) great britain.

 

Correct

 

And the government know that. Which is why they'll quite happily keep putting prices up as they know the likes of me and you will probably pay whatever they charge.

 

Fuck yay lets start here will make up a crew of petrol stealing ass raping man eating mofos leathers ,bikes ,mad cars ,fucked up hair IM in

 

do your cbt £100, buy a cheap 4 stroke 125 £700+, lid/gloves/jacket £200, 75mpg, £15 a year tax and no such thing as traffic, i use my ZX6R everyday to commute and it cost me £15 to do 130 miles(weeks commute to work and back) yeh its cold and can be wet but you can layer up and you wont notice it and you get to see all the grumpy gits sitting in traffic as you ride past em insurance is proper cheap too, i pay £10 a month on the 6.

 

i know one thing battery power cars aint the way forward they are not environmentally friendly at all!

 

£395 and 50mpg
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...1102376834361/

 

I think thats the last thing they want you to do, along with smoking. If we did all use public transport, and everybody stopped smoking, we (as a country) would be well and truely screwed. They earn billions from it and still manage to get us into debt.

 

100% spot on there IMHO, providing the powers that be scrap Road Tax & Insurance Premium tax, I see this as the fairest way of taxation.
Putting all the tax on fuel, means the more you use (and therefore use the resouce) the more tax you pay.

Instead of a tax disc, the DVLA should issue a disc that states its insured & MOT'd. If you're not displaying or cant produce the disc, its an uninsured, un road worthy car & the coppers can confiscate it!

I love cars, always have done and I always look after my car on a no expense spared basis.
What completely fucks me off, is when you come to buy a new(er) car from a dealer and all they give you is the book price, whether you've looked after the car or not.

So fuck it, I've got my 1.6 Focus Chic that I've had for 3 years now, come march.
Was OK when I bought it, but after having some panels re-sprayed, bought new wheels, fitted all my stereo system and upgrading the speakers and generally slowly getting it to the point where it'll be looking and running as good as the day it rolled off the production line, i'm loathed to get rid of it and trade it in as i'll get peanuts for it.

If you've just bought a new car, keep it, dont get bored with it after 3 years and trade in.

If you've got a car your happy with already and can continue to run it, keep on top of it, keep it running and dont bother getting rid you'll only get you're pants pulled down one way or another!

 

Totally pointless.

The only sensible and right solution is to scrap ALL current motoring related taxes and charges ( including those on fuel )

Then add a fair tax to fuel that covers road use and basic third part insurance cover. Road taxation should not get used for other things. Income tax and VAT is supposed to fund the running of the country, not bloody motorists !

No need for stupid checks, no need for stupid fucking discs, and no need for retarded cops and checkpoints checking for these things.
Every single road user is covered and they pay for it every time they fill up.

It's so simple, is it any wonder the braindead wanks in power wont do it. Chances are it will generate less revenue for them though, which is why they wont do it.

What are they going to do when fuel runs done, and they are left totally bankrupt with no money coming in ? They need to stop relying on fuel duty.

Start taxing hippy bastards for the air they breathe or something, or taxing Greenpeace for being useless wasters.

 

Sounds like a good plan to me.

 

Ohh the irony........tell someone their statement about making the tax on fuel fair is "totally pointless", then make a similar point saying tax fuel....

 

yes, stupid bloody discs on windows are pointless !

And how much of current road tax gets spent on the roads ? Very little. How much gets squandered by rich politicians ? most of it.
How much gets spent feeding dole sponging cunts ? too much.

And he said about removing Insurance Premium tax and having stupid stickers on your window. Whoopy doo. The current insurance extortion is as much a joke as the fuel extortion.

We dont need stickers or discs on our windows. We need a fair system.

Tax cyclists ( who should also have insurance !! ), Tax hippies. But stop taxing motorists dry !!!

 

STEVIETURBO for prime minister !! !

 

Like with everyting in this country, if its a necessity, or something you get enjoyment from, the price you pay for it will be more tax than anything. Imagine if the government put high tax on food,500g pack of mince beef £8 for example, when at the minute its like £2-£3, people either wouldnt eat it or buy cheaper, with fuel, you cant, the only thing can do is find the lowest price station in the area, thats why these wankers do this because they know people can't live/be without fuel, they say its all for global warming reasons, but i say global warming is probably bottom of the list. keeping dole scumbags, young mums and benefit scroungers/cheats and immigrants alive is what we all pay stupidly high tax for, it gets higher each year, and oh look, VAT has just gone up 2.5% its going to get to the stage where we have another war, or rioting starts against parliment, because the way things are going, unless we are millionaires, we are just going to be a boring nation of people who just work to pay taxes with little or no enjoyment factors in life. i was on the dole for a year, and currently ive been working 6 months, i get taxed £50 out of the £250 i earn a week, so i come out with £200 a week, thats nearly 1/4 of my monthly wage. I refuse to rebel against it, or adjust my lifestyle so its cheaper for me to live, thats letting the bastards win and fuck me over, something i wont do, yea i just put up a post about my car drinks fuel but other than that, i survive, would love to move abroad!