as title says? any pics?

 

dont think u can baffle a sump, maybe buy one

y do you ask?

 

Buy baffles, weld them in place. Job done

 

must be some sort of design to it tho, if you put baffles just anywhere in the sump it might cause problems for the oil pick up, and then u get oil starvation ect

 

There is a design method yes. But if hes asking the question, I would suggest its beyond him.

Sorry if that offends

 

asking for a friend, he welded a plate in the sump 2 slow down the oil flow when turning right. & this worked but after several races the engine became tired.

he threw away the engine & started again on another but he carnt even get 5 laps before the bottom end knocks out (banger racing)

just put a post up 2 see if any1 has any info or idears?

where can u buy the baffles?

 

rrr i see getting oil surge, be better to get a dry sump kit

 

Yeh if you have more money than sense

 

if your racing it dont come cheap

 

Not exactly true. He could properly baffle his sump for less than Ł100 or pay Ł800 for a dry sump kit.

Certain parts of racing dont come cheap, but no point wasting money just for the sake of it.

 

try burton power for the sump, they might be able to supply one, or they do dry sump kits.

 

only lasted afew races tho, dry sump kit would last for ages, but welding the baffles is a quick fix but as said above its making the engine tired which in racing if you wana be top of the game u dont want, and forking out for a new engine each time this happens cant be good either

 

It only lasted a few races coz he welded a couple of plates into his sump. He didn't have a proper baffled sump. If he has a proper baffled sump, he will have no issues with surge.

I bet the plates he welded in were vertical plates as well. It sounds like hes read a bit about baffling sumps, and though 'I can do that' and fired in a few plates.

Its not quite so simple.

 

whats he racing rosie, escorts?

 

with bangers a take it he races round ovals? if this is the case the cars only turning in one direction, i think baffeling the sump might not be the answer because where-ever you baffel it oil may get trapped when its needed.

i think the problem may be where the oil pick up is, mite be a idea to move/bend/ extend the oil pick up in the sump to the side which the oil is tilted towards i.e on the left of the sump if he races anti-clock wise

 

Sorry but do you know a lot about baffling sumps? What you just said is crap. The whole point of baffling a sump is to ensure that the oil is always at the oil pickup no matter what direction of forces are acting on a car. i.e. left or right from turning, forward or backward from braking or accelerating

You can move the pickup but then you would have to alter the baffling to suit

 

Abit about baffling, but i know about racing, wot u said is right for a road car, but when its in a race car/banger the car is camber is set the way of the direction of the track, also the the engine is not on original engine mounts so the engine is tilted either way, if the pick up is on the right and the car tilts to the left, no mount of baffling will shift the oil up hill towards the pick up

 

Oh yes it will

 

how? if the car is constantly tilted one way? and the car is going round the same hand corners?

if sump baffels worked in all conditions then the dry sumps wouldnt have been invented

 

Ok the amount of camber required to tilt a car enough to make a big difference is so huge it'll never happen.

But lets assume they altered the ride height enough that it was a factor. The oil pickup is at the lowest point in the sump. Due to the design of a sump, that point will always be the lowest unless you have hugely different ride height.

Therefore baffling will work perfectly.

Dry sumps have their own advantages but none that would be necessary in banger racing. Also I would seriously doubt there is any suspension set up in banger racing.

Look at NASCAR. They race in an oval and dont use dry sumps!

 

Well I'm truelly baffled.... lmao

 

You clearly dont have a clue about banger racing buy u saying i doubt they have a suspension set up

wrong for a start, how you ever seen a banger/stock car? with the way the camber is set up? it is enough for for oil serge

 

Great, another "know all"

Not clever enough to think up his own name though, sounds very simular to someone elses on here lol

 

i sorted this problem i had when i fitted a oil cooler from a mazda rotary in place of the airbox - it takes an extra liter of oil which meant i now had a liter less
took an old sump , cut out the lower middle piece ,cut and welded it into my sump .added a piece of tube same length as the added piece to the pickup.i now have an extra 1.5 liters.
the more oil , the less chance of surge?

 

nice one

 

this post is geting intestering

right heres what i know.....

the track is an oval track & he races around clockwise so all the oil is being pused towards the gearbox side of the sump.

the cars are all fords (mostly escorts) but all run the 1.6 cvh engine.

the engine neva starts 2 tapp from the top it just knocks the bottem end out all the time (knocking)

he cut a groove into the sump on the inside plate just infront of the sump bowl, he the slid a plate into the sump & welded it in.
this worked for half a seasons raceing & neva caused a problem untill the season ended & the engine sat around for 4 months & when refitted for the next seasons raceing it knocked the bottom end out.

he threw away the engine & started again but he has gone threw 3 engines in past month (1 every race) & is geting fed up with paying for a nites raceing & doing 4 laps & goin home.

its cheap fun so dont want 2 spend ŁŁŁ on a sump, just wants a home made bodge 2gether that will work. (the 1st engine worked)

 

I dont 'know all' but I do know a fair bit about building race cars.

And I have had the name for 6 years on various boards, and as my email address (even half a number plate of it for a while)

So unless you have something constructive to say, piss off.

As for banger racing - no I dont know much about it. But I do know that differing camber will not affect the ride height enough to make a noticeable difference.