who....me or the o/p?

 

Sorry mate the op but if u got any pictures going let me know haha

 

Mate, your asking the wrong people, the wrong questions in the wrong place! All I'll add is that they are not a quick fix, the side affects can easily out weigh the positives.

 

There are few lads who go to my gum who are on steriods.They look ok but from what ive seen they cant lift heavy weights for shit.

 

??? And. Depends if they're training for strength or size. On the street nobody knows how strong you are but they easily know how big you are.

 

its not about lifting heavy wwights mate for 1 rep,its about "lift light and do it right"
no good swinging big lumps of steel around when your not hitting the muscle your are training to train
I see it all the time in my gym young lads 10 stone wet through throwing weights around,then Iam stood at the side curling a 12 k dumbell correctly
steroids do make you stronger they also make you fatter if you dont eat or train correctly,there not a magic pill as some seem to think BUT used correctly they can be superb
people shouldnt even consider steroids untill there in there 30s

 

^ too true. leave the ego at the door, lower the weights and use some nice strict form, watch em grow

 

The OP doesn't even train!!!

Seriously, why are people trying to give him serious advice?

 

To be fair if he wants to know then these no harm pointing some one in the right direction.

Before i would touch any gear your best of going for a month or 2 get your form correct, ive seen people try working shoulders and end up with sore biceps. gear or no gear if your doing it wrong nothing will help.

before you start you want to be able to do a good 1-2 hrs in the gym and rep good amounts, if you just jump on the gear go gym lift crap for a few reps then leave after 15mins you will just end up a mess.

again as above a good diet can be as good as any steroid.

as some one mentioned sus250 is good, 4 different tests that will provide a increase and constant supply of testosterone.


also what i would say if you considering steroids, dont think just because Mr "A" got good gains and little side effects the you will be in the same boat listen to your own body and if there bad you stop and try something else.

 

1-2hrs leave it out. 45 mins hard graft and out.

 

1 to 2 hours in the gym what you doing talking,as you aint training

 

depends on what you do, if you going to just lift then a hour is fine but if you want to throw in some cardio too 1-2 hrs isnt a unrealistic time tbh.

 

you dont lift then do an hour cardio after,totally the wrong way to do things
you lift one day and cardio another,mainly for 1 hour tops

 

This thread gets worse.

I've tried to be as diplomatic as possible and tbh it seems my sensible advice is ignored.

Too many fuckwits on here that don't have a clue.

I'll have Ł500 with anyone to say they can't put on 3.5 stone of muscle in 6 months. I'll even take the bet as 3.5 stone of fat.

 

I bet his penis had shrunk too and he has mental issues.

 

No harm in advising someone who doesn't train what gear to take? Yeah a couple of months training should give him the tools to be ready for gear. Then he can bang on Sus with 4 ethers as thats the perfect first course.

Spot on.

 

Someone should bin this thread.

 

Nah, Darwinism at its finest.

 

Untill there 30? Are u serious even though i agree a bit with what u say when your on steriods u can afford to loose some form as u have to lift heavy to get the best gains.

U can not say that steriods make u stronger as there are diffdrent types that have diffdrent effects. i tried my first cycle when i was twenty and got great results.havent used them since though and i still see goodish results with good eating and training

 

30 might be stretching it a bit, but 20 is way too young. It took me til about 26-27 until my body had decided exactly how it was going to be. Everyone is different, but 20 is definitely too young

 

I had pubes by year 4 of primary school tbh i think it would only ever do u damage if u were on such a massive dose or maybe growth, remember steriods are all natural products your body produces to a certain extent so unless your jabbing 20ml a week im sure its fine

 

Being facetious 20ml pw could be fine. Depends on the mg per ml

Mind you, wouldn't fancy 20ml of oil in me.

 

true true good point! If its not a high percentage though u might aswell inject some cooking oil... its a lot cheaper

 

What about oxy 50s are they any good?

 

Anapalon 50 (mg) is an oral and very toxic. I would go so far to state that they are the worst for you in terms of toxidity and side effects. They put stress on your liver and generally make you feel like shit. If any steroid is going to get you close to the steriotypical roid rage user that the media promotes, this would be it.

Alot of the gains will be water. If you want to bloat up quickly then they are good but be prepared to lose it all when you come off.

A first time user would want to steer clear! You would only need 25-30mg ed, not 50!

 

just to add to kieron's point any oral steriod has worse side effect than a lot of injecticble ones due to the route they take to get into your body

 

Yeh i totaly agree with you there too.I see you lads swinging the weights about too.I just laugh at them.

 

havent read the whole post but somebody might of already said this,
firstly never run deca on its own, its far to harsh and will shut u do like no 1s business
if you feel like yuo want to and its right for you, the first best cycle would be 12weeks running test e at 500mg a week, with a either a preload of test in the first week or dbol at 30mg a day for the first 4 weeks. you will get some good grorth from that, not huge but enough to notice, but you must have a proper diet in place and train hard, you need to eat enough complexs carbs and protain to enable growth and repair or injecting will be pointless, also YOU MUST HAVE A GOOD P.C.T IN PLACE!!! after yuor cycle you need certain drugs which get your natural test working again. Its all well and good people saying steriods are bad dont do it, but if the reserach is done properly, quilty phama used and a good pct in place, its no worse for you then binge drinking on a friday and saturday night, the drinking is proberly worse! and roid rage is bollocks, it all depends on the person, if you agressive in general, a huge amount of test obviously will highten this, in me i acturly find it makes me in a better mood!