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Old 03-08-2011, 05:08 PM
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That's the plan!!

You coming ford fair mate?


no mate, Im gonna be going down to my dads friday so I wont make it.

shame really as id like to
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That's a shame, you could have been my co-pilot on track!
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Originally Posted by Danny.
That's a shame, you could have been my co-pilot on track!



that would have been great Danny.
got to do the family thing though this time.
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Danny you look really well. You should be on the front of mens health mag. I cant get over how much you eat lol. So what is your routine in the gym then? I would love to look like you.
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Im going to ford fair so i might keep a look out for you. Im out on track too.
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Originally Posted by Glenn.
Danny you look really well. You should be on the front of mens health mag. I cant get over how much you eat lol. So what is your routine in the gym then? I would love to look like you.
Cheers Mate
I eat even more during the winter months!
Routine looks like this at the moment -

Mon - Shoulders and bi's or tri's (rotate bi's and tri's here weekly thus hitting them twice every other week)

Tues - Legs and calves

Weds - Rest

Thurs - Chest, tri's and calve's

Fri - Back and Bi's

Train weights in the evenings
and 45mins cardio done on my spin bike at home in the mornings.

Originally Posted by Glenn.
Im going to ford fair so i might keep a look out for you. Im out on track too.
What session you doing? I'm on at 10am
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At them moment at work ive been doing overtime for the past 4/5 months so havent been going to the gym as much.I used to go 4 to 5 days a week were as now im only going 2 days now.I used to go friday sat and sunday but ive also been busy on the weekends.

I know im out in the morning but dont know what time. My mate booked the sessions and he is gonna let me know.
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Originally Posted by Danny.
Cheers Mate
I eat even more during the winter months!
Routine looks like this at the moment -

Mon - Shoulders and bi's or tri's (rotate bi's and tri's here weekly thus hitting them twice every other week)

Tues - Legs and calves

Weds - Rest

Thurs - Chest, tri's and calve's

Fri - Back and Bi's

Train weights in the evenings
and 45mins cardio done on my spin bike at home in the mornings.



What session you doing? I'm on at 10am
I like your routine training body pasrts twice per week,I may give it a go
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Originally Posted by Specialist RS
I like your routine training body pasrts twice per week,I may give it a go
Cheers mate, my arms are very stubborn and training them like this seems to be working
Over winter I think I might switch it up again with legs twice a week
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I hate doing legs i find it so boring.
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Originally Posted by Glenn.
I hate doing legs i find it so boring.
You'd be surprised how much training legs helps with your overall strength and bulking.
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Originally Posted by Glenn.
I hate doing legs i find it so boring.
legs are the most important muscles and the biggest,
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Originally Posted by Danny.
Cheers mate, my arms are very stubborn and training them like this seems to be working
Over winter I think I might switch it up again with legs twice a week
what exercises and how many reps you doing
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Originally Posted by Specialist RS
what exercises and how many reps you doing
Basically if its a week where we are training biceps twice then the first bicep workout with shoulders will contain heavy compound movements such as barbells curls etc etc as the biceps will be relatively fresh.

The second bicep workout with back will contain lots of shaping/peak movements such as preacher curls, concentrations curls etc etc as the biceps will be pre-exhausted from the back workout.

Same the following week when its double triceps, Shoulders and tri's will have a lot of cable triceps movements etc & then the chest and tri workout will have some heavt tri movements like close grip bench and skull crushers etc etc
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Oh dear, you don't buy in to the whole size or shaping exercises chain of thought do you?
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Originally Posted by Kieron
Oh dear, you don't buy in to the whole size or shaping exercises chain of thought do you?
Yeah why not?
Old 04-08-2011, 10:47 AM
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Because its bollocks.
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Originally Posted by Kieron
Because its bollocks.
Why though?

I know the genetics of the individual plays a huge part in deciding what size and shapes you will get but I dont believe for 1 minute you cannot use various exercises and techniques to force a bigger peak or more shape out of your biceps.
IF you can't then why can I think of at least 10 different variations of a bicep curl, must be a reason for all these different variations?

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Originally Posted by Danny.
Why though?

I know the genetics of the individual plays a huge part in deciding what size and shapes you will get but I dont believe for 1 minute you cannot use various exercises and techniques to force a bigger peak or more shape out of your biceps.
IF you can't then why can I think of at least 10 different variations of a bicep curl.
No need for the rolling eyes all the time, I'm not a fucking idiot. We can chat about this without the silly smilies can't we? Please.

Basically you've answered your own question. The shape your muscle takes is down to genetics. Sadly you cannot shape the peak of the bicep by changing the routine. The reason you do different exercises is to hit them all over or to place the resistance on them in different ways. However....

Could you name me one exercise that hits the peak of the bicep only?

I personlly don't believe in your theory, a view that is shared by many others, but I am happy to chat about it and learn something new.
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Originally Posted by Specialist RS
legs are the most important muscles and the biggest,
Yeh i know that i just find it boring.I will have to do some leg weights cause i havent done them for a while.
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Originally Posted by Glenn.
Yeh i know that i just find it boring.I will have to do some leg weights cause i havent done them for a while.
Hard work, challenging, tiring etc etc are all words to describe training legs. Boring isn't one of them.

Most shy away from legs because they are hard and draining. A decent leg session will see you close to throwing up or passing out. Followed by not being able to walk without looking like you've shit yourself or being able to negotiate stairs without grimmacing.

You need to endure a proper leg session and then make your mind up. I mean that in the nicest way possible, not slating what your doing.
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Originally Posted by Kieron
Most shy away from legs because they are hard and draining. A decent leg session will see you close to throwing up or passing out. Followed by not being able to walk without looking like you've shit yourself or being able to negotiate stairs without grimmacing.

You need to endure a proper leg session and then make your mind up. I mean that in the nicest way possible, not slating what your doing.
Totally agree, I love doing legs and sometimes have to sleep downstairs afterwards as I cant climb the damn things.
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Originally Posted by Kieron
No need for the rolling eyes all the time, I'm not a fucking idiot. We can chat about this without the silly smilies can't we? Please.

Basically you've answered your own question. The shape your muscle takes is down to genetics. Sadly you cannot shape the peak of the bicep by changing the routine. The reason you do different exercises is to hit them all over or to place the resistance on them in different ways. However....

Could you name me one exercise that hits the peak of the bicep only?

I personlly don't believe in your theory, a view that is shared by many others, but I am happy to chat about it and learn something new.
Not calling you a fucking idiot mate! I just use that smiley after questions.

I hear what your saying and do agree that genetic's play a massive part. I just believe that can force your biceps to grow (as much as your genetics allow) bigger and wider through using various exercises and techniques.

I find that strict concentration curls and strict single arm preacher curls on an slightly inclined upright bench really allow for a good peak contraction.

Like you say, some people agree, some dont, although this method of training seems to be working for me at the moment so I'm sticking at it until I plateau
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I know when i have done my legs ive struggled to go dow the stairs in the gym then struggled to drive home.
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Originally Posted by Kieron
Hard work, challenging, tiring etc etc are all words to describe training legs. Boring isn't one of them.

Most shy away from legs because they are hard and draining. A decent leg session will see you close to throwing up or passing out. Followed by not being able to walk without looking like you've shit yourself or being able to negotiate stairs without grimmacing.

You need to endure a proper leg session and then make your mind up. I mean that in the nicest way possible, not slating what your doing.
Spot on there mate!

Collapsed many a time after placing that barbell on the squat rack!

I think we should set up a passionford gym meet!
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Originally Posted by Danny.
Not calling you a fucking idiot mate! I just use that smiley after questions.

I hear what your saying and do agree that genetic's play a massive part. I just believe that can force your biceps to grow (as much as your genetics allow) bigger and wider through using various exercises and techniques.

I find that strict concentration curls and strict single arm preacher curls on an slightly inclined upright bench really allow for a good peak contraction.

Like you say, some people agree, some dont, although this method of training seems to be working for me at the moment so I'm sticking at it until I plateau
Fair enough mate, I took it the wrong way so apologise.

I agree that you can probably slightly isolate one of the heads of the bicep more over the other by varying exercises but I don't think that you can grow a peak. Its genetic imho and dependant on the length of them and other factors. You can also force muscles to grow, just not manipulate in a certain way. Getting them bigger will empasise the peak if you have one but then others have wide/thick arms.

I think you are lucky in that your bi's peak so are growing in that way. If you had flat thick bi's I dont believe that your method of training them would change that. Would be interesting to hear a pro's take on that theory. Could they build big arms and then sculpt them to a shape?

If its working, then as you say, keep it going.
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Originally Posted by Danny.
Spot on there mate!

Collapsed many a time after placing that barbell on the squat rack!

I think we should set up a passionford gym meet!
Could be good. Most on here seem cool without egos. Plus I expect everyone would not want to look stupid so would push hard.

You also can't get a decent gauge of someones size from a pic. The camera does lie.
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Originally Posted by Kieron
Could be good. Most on here seem cool without egos. Plus I expect everyone would not want to look stupid so would push hard.

You also can't get a decent gauge of someones size from a pic. The camera does lie.
Where abouts are you mate?
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Originally Posted by Danny.
Where abouts are you mate?
Ipswich way.
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Originally Posted by Kieron
Ipswich way.
Quite far then.

If your ever down London give me a shout and we can hook up for a train
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Originally Posted by Danny.
Quite far then.

If your ever down London give me a shout and we can hook up for a train
Yeah will do mate. which part are you in?
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Originally Posted by Kieron
Yeah will do mate. which part are you in?
North London. Not too far from monster gym. Awesome gym with dumbbells up to 150kg!!
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Originally Posted by Danny.
North London. Not too far from monster gym. Awesome gym with dumbbells up to 150kg!!
Waltham Cross? Heard about that place.
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Waltham Cross? Heard about that place.
Yeah thats the one, lots of equipment and they cook food too
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Originally Posted by Danny.
I'll try and get some decent pics tomorrow evening after a killer chest and tricep workout! All pumped up!
As promised

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Fookin hell Danny you look massive.
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Originally Posted by Danny.
North London. Not too far from monster gym. Awesome gym with dumbbells up to 150kg!!

150kg... fook me.Who can lift them and do a few reps. They must be built like a brick shit house lol.
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Originally Posted by Danny.
As promised

Looking good mate, nice taper!
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Originally Posted by Kieron
Looking good mate, nice taper!
Thanks mate, back is my strongest bodypart.
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just curious do you guys train for a sport or just train for the passion and to look good? i've personally always "trained" to benifit what sports i do and to look and feel good


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