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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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Its the older version of the Endura turbo diesel (1753cc), just had a new headgasket, headbolts, timing belts, glow plugs and water pump fitted. It was running as it is in the video. Changed the injectors and pump from a known good engine and made no difference. Compression should be between 28 and 34 bar. A cold compression test showed
cyl1 @ 33bar
cyl2 @ 34bar
cyl3 @ 34bar
cyl4 @ 35bar

Fitted a piece of clear plastic tubing between the fuel filter and pump to check for bubbles and cant see any. Takes about 10 seconds of cranking to start regardless of wether its hot or cold and wont start at all unless the accelerator is depressed. Wont idle unless accelerator is held depressed about 1/3 of the way. Will rev and sounds like it going right the way up to 4500+rpm.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...t=DSCF3223.mp4

Cant think of anything else to check/try..??
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 09:43 AM
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if endura about r reg ish every one i ever worked on is like this, ok in the summer cold weather comes along cranks loads give it 2 heats ie listen for the click of the glowplug relay coming off twice not the light on the dash this should help
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 10:07 AM
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check for broken diafram in hand primer these can cause problems also what condition are your leak off pipes from injectors mine had a leak and caused simlar problems the pipes looked ok to eye but was leaking i changed them and it sorted it.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 01:29 AM
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if endura about r reg ish every one i ever worked on is like this, ok in the summer cold weather comes along cranks loads give it 2 heats ie listen for the click of the glowplug relay coming off twice not the light on the dash this should help
Did you see how far the 'throttle' has to be held open just to get the engine to idle, even if I let the glow plugs heat up a dozen times the engine will literally crank untill the battery dies without starting unless I hold the throttle 1/3 or more open and even if I hold it open untill the engine heats up as soon as I let it off the engine will stall. I have a P100 with the same engine on 167,000 miles and it starts first turn of the key regardless of what time of year it is.

Fuel return pipes on the injectors are brand new also.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 07:31 AM
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thats a pump problem fella
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cabriolet
thats a pump problem fella
Thats what I thought at the start hence why I changed the pump and injectors from a known good engine and the problem was still the same
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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have you checked the pump timing on the belt? incase the pump isnt timed up properly
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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mine was running a bit iffy and kicking wjite smoke out, seemed i lost my power feed to my advance retard solenoid on the pump
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by steve4i
have you checked the pump timing on the belt? incase the pump isnt timed up properly
The timing on these engines is idiot proof if you have the locking kit, you lock the crank, cam and pump and after that its pretty much impossible to f**k it up.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by davidfox280585
mine was running a bit iffy and kicking wjite smoke out, seemed i lost my power feed to my advance retard solenoid on the pump
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check the power feed but wont hold my breath. I'm begining to suspect an internal mechanical fault.
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cosrep
The timing on these engines is idiot proof if you have the locking kit, you lock the crank, cam and pump and after that its pretty much impossible to f**k it up.

well i know that big mouth just a suggestion
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cosrep
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check the power feed but wont hold my breath. I'm begining to suspect an internal mechanical fault.
i was the fault it lost power when i rewired the bay,i would replace it as they are common for going faulty
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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that sounds like pump timing to me, try advancing it and try it. iv had problems like this lots of times
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by forevaford
that sounds like pump timing to me, try advancing it and try it. iv had problems like this lots of times
read above mate its "idiot proof" so it cant be out
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