Carl160180

Got a phone call from my mate earlier saying that his car had just "stopped" and he can't get it started again. Now having not seen it i thought it was the alternator belt had eventually snapped or just come off as it had been slipping for months now (as all diesels do). So he gets the car towed home and asks me to come and have a "look" so i get to his grab his keys and turn the engine over only to here the dreaded sound of no compression , "I Think your timing belt has snapped" i said to him he replies with "what does that mean?" my Reply "Your engine is fooked!" So i whip the timing cover off to find the timing belt still intact??????????
Upon removing the rocker cover i found that the cam has basically snapped in 3 places ! Is this a common problem or could it have been caused by something else?

Another thing anyone know the head bolt torque settings/sequence for a 1.8 TD? Anyone changed the head on one of these and are they a bitch to do as ive heard horror stories about just fitting the belt's on these motors would the pump belt have to be disturbed if im just changing the head? and to add to the fact the bugger has power steering AND Air Con!!!

Carl160180

Is anyone has any online manual's for this engine or TIS manuals I would be grateful if i could get a copy maybe through e-mail????

nthorpey

fairly common problem as well as heads cracking between valve seats

dave green

Cam normally only snaps when the belt breaks, its not a hard job to do the head on these engines, get a exchange head and belt kit , job done


Dave

Carl160180

Really nthorpey never seen one do that before i thought that the timing belt tensioner has slipped causing the pistons to meet the valves and smashing the cam that way but the timing belt was still tight????

Carl160180

Dave mate already got a hold of a second hand head for Ł30 from the g/f's uincle who runs a scrap yard just gotta pick a timing belt kit up tomorrow

Still looking for the torque settings etc or ideally a TIS or similar for this engine/model btw never said before but its the endura diesel engine

Thanks

Carl

Carl160180

Oh another thing anyone know the size of the torx head bolts on these? aint got one big enough so gonna have to buy one

nicksaph

Torx 75 mate
tightning torques are
1
10 Nm
2
100Nm
3
wait 3 mins
4
individually slacken off 360 deg
5
70Nm
6
120 deg

tightning sequence is
. 7 5 1 3 9

10 4 2 6 8

take it as odds are at the bulk head and 7/10 are the bolts nearest the cam belt.
hth nick.

Carl160180

Nice one mate

Carl160180

Right EVENTUALLY got the second hand head dropped off and found out that the head is off a non turbo model as he left the inlet on the head and obviously the inlets are different on turbo models. So my question is this, Is there any difference between the turbo and non turbo diesel cylinder heads? they look the same apart from the inlets of course which can be changed, Been told that there is a differance in the size of the valves??? If there is any differances would it be ok to fit a non turbo diesel head onto a turbo diesel motor?

HELP!!!!!

dave green

It will fit mate, put a N/A head on a turbo modle before, no probs .

only ones that are differant are the endurance engine ,(later one)

nicksaph

hello mate
as dave green said it should fit but just to make sure lay both heads side by side and make sure that all the bolt holes, studs, sensor mounting points, ports, injector holes, etc are in the same place, theres nowt like fitting a head and torqueing it down only to find some of the componants won't fit! different valve sizes shouldn't make much of a difference and there is proberly only going to be a mil or two in it anyway.
keep us posted mate its nice to know for future ref
cheeRS nick.

alan rainbow

before you put the head on make sure all pistons come up the bore to the same level this happened to my mate and it bent a rod

Carl160180

Nice one guys will ley you all know how it goes and btw it @IS a endura de lump but like may said ill just lay them side by side and check everything and will be checking the piston levels too alan cheers for the help guys!

Thanks

Carl

richard youll

Like most others ive done loads of these as well, one difference to look for is at the back of the head there is a water bleed of pipe some are banjo type and some have a large pipe screwed into the head that should be the only difference, and when timing the belt up with it being an endura, the tensioner is self adjusting once pretension is set, its hard to see to marks but if it is a ford kit you fit set the right hand wheel to 11 0'clock, if it is a gates kit you will have to lower it to around 10- 10.30 and re check.

Carl160180

Right eventually got the job finished as ive been doing it in between work n stuff and as richard youll said the water pipe at the back of the head was different BUT the original pipe off the endura head could'nt be fitted to the new (second hand) head as the thread sizes were different, anyway the pipe mated up to it ok. The only other differance was the metal plate behind the camshaft pulley etc because the head i got was later found out to be off an earlier car and did'nt have power steering or air con so this had to be changed also but apart from that all's well and its purring like a kitten, Well knocking it's head off like a normal diesel does LOL

Thanks for the help guys much appreciated nice one!