hello lads i know this is a bit of a biggie but i thought i'd ask anyway, please help.

i've got a zetec esc at the mo and want to give it a bit more poke if ideally id like a blower, iv looked at swappin the engine for a frst engine but it seems like a bit of a backstep if u see what i mean.

my question is this theres a bloke on the for sale section now selling adapter plates so i can fit erst exhaust and inlet manifolds to my engine. im just tryin to work out what else i would need for the conversion. obviously the t3, but if i run low boost i wouldn't have to worry bout the internals. i believe that my chip can be re-written to manage the turbo but im sure my injectors couldn't take it. does anyone know what management im running at the mo? (1996 esc zetec 1.6) and if i can litterally just swap injectors? and also what else i will need for the conversion to work.

sorry to be a pain lads, please help me

any comments or advice would be appreciated

cheers
poulter

 

Ur gonna have to lower the compression ratio, if you want to add a turbo. Most people have a bit shaved off the top of the pistons. Ur also gonna have to make up an oil feed for the turbo. if ur using the whole zetec block, with head etc, i think you have to run it on cossie management or on a custom mapped pectal 8 board.

Any1 correct me if im wrong.

 

Bit more involved than you might think mate.

Your gonna need to get new pistons like the fella above says.

Inlet manifold, exhaust manifold, probably a custon made exhaust, you WILL need to change your management system, intercooler and piping, uprated fuel pump, head gasget, various sensor, list just goes on and on.

Expect it to cost Ł2500 minimum.

Best thing to do is speak with someone like Ian Howels of Feiesta Frenzy who has done it all before.

Matt

 

cheers lads, i thought i could use a compression plate to change the compression as opposed to gettin custom pistons, i heard that this was ok aslong as u don't use large boost. i was wonderin as my car currently has efi can i leave that on there or do i have to change to k-t mfi?

i have seen a fiest before that had a turbo conversion on a zetec and they just reprogrammed his current chip to increase the fuelling.

any thoughts on this?

cheers for ur help lads much appreciated im a novice im sure u can tell!

 

Hi mate, Im currently starting up a tuning company specialising in Zetec conversations.

Looks like i could help you out

There are loads of options open to you mate, i.e Rebored to 2.1 or just add a spacer to lower compression.

All depends on budget mate.

P.S it can be done for cheaper than Ł2500 IMO

Let us know what we are working with here mate

 

Most deffinately, PM PhilM he is THE Zetec/ZVH man, tell him i sent ya

 

The software of the Ford management can be re-written if you really want to. There's a lot of knowledge and groups about this in the net. But by no means am I saying that it''s the easiest way. Whatever you do, don't go to KE-jetronic. Keep the efi, just change the ecu to a something more mappable. If you're about to use tha standard pistons and C/R, don't have you're hopes too high as far as power is concerned. If you turbo an engine with cast pistons, you really should know what you are doing.

 

Why not send him my way instead

 

where are these mate, What do i search for

 

Not really looked into this myself, since I opted for the Megasquirt, but start from these palaces if you really really are interested to working with the Ford ecu:
http://www.acc-electronics.com/cloud/tc_auto.html
http://www.need-4-speed.com/eectuner.htm
http://www.eec-tuner.com/biz_html/Guide.pdf

 

interesting stuff

 

grove garage/ahmed bajoo can blow a chip for frst ofab management this is the easiest and safest way of using a fairly readily available managment without spending mega bucks as for the rest lots of people are doing zetec turbo stuff but only a couple are getting serious power with reliability search these out and spend wisely, talk to them all and get advise and then go back to who seems the most clued up.

 

hi mate just done one on a mk5 escort cab,it was a 1.8 zetec we just run the oil feed back in to the sump (welded pipe),for the management we used fiesta rst stuff, the multi plug under the bonnet pluged straight in and all we had to wire up was oil light, its an easy job give me a email if u want it done cheap. Its not that hard a job if u get all the adaptor plates
cheers

 

Hi mate.

If your gunna do a 1800, then i'd never put forged pistons in one, not worth the money!

For a CHEAP 1.8 Zetec turbo ~ 220bhp, do this:

• Decompression Plate
• RST Exhaust Manifold Plate
• ERST Exh Man and T3
• FRST ECU and Loom, 701 Injectors and 195 chip. (PROPPERLY SET UP!).

Leave everything else head, cams, bores, pistons the same, its really not worth spending ŁŁŁ on a 1.8 zetec. If you want 220bhp, do as I said above

Feel free to PM me if you need more help or any conversion plates

 

PhilM
: PM sent

 

Also what's the best boost to have with a Decompression Plate ?

 

and... what power would you expect from a 2 litre low boost job

i hear prople run 8 psi with out droping compression

i estimate 180 horses

 

wot sort of prices and how long dose it take from start and finish are we looking at

 

I'm having a Zetec turbo built at the moment, I'm using a 2 litre mondeo block bored to 2.1 using mahle forged pistons, adapter plate from Interpro to use an escort rs turbo exhaust manifold on the zetec head, sapph cossie spec t3 in escort rs turbo housing, custom fuel rail to run the dark greens, mondeo throttle body, standard head, standard cams, Autronic management, 2wd sapph cossie intercooler and custom pipework, custom exhaust, paddle clutch, series 1 turbo box (will hopefully get the gearboxman's treatment) etc. etc., the list goes on

Estimated power at 15psi is around 300bhp (not with a standard s1 box though), looks like the ignition will be reatarded to feck and running the minimum of 10-12psi (unless I mess about with the actuator) to get the torque down to run a standard box to get it on the road

Interpro had a 2.1 Zetec turbo in a fortnight back, apparently it put out 288bhp and 321 ft/lbs of torque at 14 psi with forged pistons and running at 14psi

I really don't want to work out what its cost me (or my bank I should say ) but I think its worth it

Here are some pics....








H&R coilovers


Hispec 4-pots

 

alanfo.
ur avator fooks up my screen mate.. check the size.

 

i looked into this with my last car and for the full on job low comp pistons. management. rods. head work custom manifolds lightened and balanced etc etc etc i was quoted between 3.5k upto 6k on a 2.0ltr zetec conversion i had done in my mk6 escort

 

sorry m8 is that any better

 

Much better matey Will try and finish what we discusses and get it to you this evening

 

Bobfrog, how much did the adaptor plate for the turbo manifold cost? have you got any pictures of that you could put up please.
cheers

 

I don't have it now I'm affraid, its gone to Southampton with the engine bits.

It was around Ł120 from Interpro

 

These plates are avilable from PhilM, there very good quality as this is where i get mine from

 

Ok cheers do you know if PhilM has got any photo's of them I've bought one which someone has welded a plate to it was hard to fit as one of the holes didn't line up properly and it doesn't look very tidy.
cheers

 

PhilM will have photo's, send him a PM, the plates are very good quality

 

Dont have pics yet mate, will take some early next week as the plate is away with my block at the moment.

ITs an awesome looking thing, propper shiney, holes drilled n tapped, laser cut.......very bling looking