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Old 02-06-2009, 07:02 AM   #401
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The latter "might" be an idea to put on hold until the inlet manifold bits are up to par with your heads...
Just give me the word, and the whole inlet is summoned down to your flow bench ASAP

We are planning to DRIVE the car sometime in june you know..!

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Your labour of love is finally taking shape now Joel!

Looking really, really cool... can't wait to see it in the flesh!
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Joel,
What material are the hubs made of?
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Just give me the word, and the whole inlet is summoned down to your flow bench ASAP

We are planning to DRIVE the car sometime in june you know..!
If you drop by today, I can spend tomorrow on it and you probably pick it up tomorrow evening.. unless there's a need for a big revamp of it, which i doubt. Guess it's mostly nitpicking, but it's better to be sure...
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Looks like it's getting there now mate. It won't be long now hopefully
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Your labour of love is finally taking shape now Joel!

Looking really, really cool... can't wait to see it in the flesh!

Heeey Dave! long time no hear - all good?

Yess, the car is finally comming together, we've had fair amount of challenges to work trough, and as soon as we get it up running i guess we'll have a few more

But thanks we are pretty pleased as well beeing able to hide most of what the car really is... under a "std ford look design"...

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What material are the hubs made of?
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Cheers Mike

We had too take 5 mins to consider this one bfore we made them...

Ultimately we opted for steel, even tough T6 alu was close to beeing the material of choice untill we finally decided for steel.

How come u ask?

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If you drop by today, I can spend tomorrow on it and you probably pick it up tomorrow evening.. unless there's a need for a big revamp of it, which i doubt. Guess it's mostly nitpicking, but it's better to be sure...
Sounds great

I''ll try and drop by today.

For you other folks, SWR is the genious behind the heads for the engine..
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Looks like it's getting there now mate. It won't be long now hopefully
yes, bit by bit , we hope to be out test driving sometime during june.... but you never know what troubles we could stumble uppon..! :P

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Red face Wow...

A friend of mine did this search on google the other day, told me, and the result shocked us a little bit...

Over 3 pages with hit's on different comments to this old ford!

In all humbleness(can you say that in english??) , this is a combination of scary and fun :P

http://www.google.com/search?q=grana...ient=firefox-a

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all i can say is stunning job wish i had your talent mate
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US, not just me!

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Cheers Mike

We had too take 5 mins to consider this one bfore we made them...

Ultimately we opted for steel, even tough T6 alu was close to beeing the material of choice untill we finally decided for steel.

How come u ask?

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Because I would eventually like to make some hubs for mine which would incorporate an extended knuckle for the TCA (like on the 3dr Cossies) to remove some of the inherent bump steer of the poorly positioned OE items .
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Because I would eventually like to make some hubs for mine which would incorporate an extended knuckle for the TCA (like on the 3dr Cossies) to remove some of the inherent bump steer of the poorly positioned OE items .
Ahh.. i see , yes i recon there is room for improvement in that department ..

I'd go for steel if you have them made, it's safer...

Just imagine for instance, alle the heat the hubs would accumulate from the brake discs, then you might end up in expansion leading to bearing failure and so on...
Surely they can be made up in a combo-solution of both steel and alu, but for me there was not time to experiment with that now..
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If I end up doing them, they will be similar to the Grp A ones, but still use the standard upright mounting method. This then utilises the bigger / stronger transit bearings. I agree that steel is also the safest method, but wanted to get rid of some unsprung weight at the same time if this would have been possible.
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If I end up doing them, they will be similar to the Grp A ones, but still use the standard upright mounting method. This then utilises the bigger / stronger transit bearings. I agree that steel is also the safest method, but wanted to get rid of some unsprung weight at the same time if this would have been possible.

titanium?
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That would cost £2k per SIDE!
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That would cost £2k per SIDE!
are you talking about the whole hub, or just the hub flange thinge like above?
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Wish i could aford to built somthing half as cool as this.
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If I end up doing them, they will be similar to the Grp A ones, but still use the standard upright mounting method. This then utilises the bigger / stronger transit bearings. I agree that steel is also the safest method, but wanted to get rid of some unsprung weight at the same time if this would have been possible.
I see.

But, it is possible to make them lighter even tough steel is used I recon.
You could leave less material and use a better steel quality than std , if you make new ones, and at the same time make it comply with some new and bigger bearings.

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Currently massacring your intake with an angle grinder and assorted tools probably most often found in a torture chamber (my workshop) ... whatever genius it was who made the entrance to the runner considerably smaller than the combined cross-sectional areas of the ports should be publicly flogged. Instant several-hundred-hp down the drain. That's a no-no I just can't allow to happen...
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Currently massacring your intake with an angle grinder and assorted tools probably most often found in a torture chamber (my workshop) ... whatever genius it was who made the entrance to the runner considerably smaller than the combined cross-sectional areas of the ports should be publicly flogged. Instant several-hundred-hp down the drain. That's a no-no I just can't allow to happen...
PMSL at this comment mate, I am guessing that there is quite some work going into the intake then is there?
Any chance of a few pics of progress to see how it's all going at all please?
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PMSL at this comment mate, I am guessing that there is quite some work going into the intake then is there?
Any chance of a few pics of progress to see how it's all going at all please?
Yes, there's a bit more to do than expected.. Joel or Ingar removed the first foot - quite literally - of unneccessary (we don't want it to tune at the right intake pulse for pulling down a brick shithouse at tickover anyway) intake runner, now I am working on removing the last 2.5" of it and replacing them with decent sized tubing - both diameter, shape and lenght - with a custom solution at the end of it to make a proper bellmouth. Well, not really a bellmouth, I don't want a weakened return pulse so a fairly narrow radius. As for pics, I have a policy of not showing anything detailed in public unless the owner of the bits give his consent.. so ask Joel.
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Can we see pics of this intake??
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Awesome build!

When my m8, who's building a turbo'd V4 MkI Granda/Consul, sees those suspensionarms he'll go crazy and probably start designing as well.
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Yes, there's a bit more to do than expected.. Joel or Ingar removed the first foot - quite literally - of unneccessary (we don't want it to tune at the right intake pulse for pulling down a brick shithouse at tickover anyway) intake runner, now I am working on removing the last 2.5" of it and replacing them with decent sized tubing - both diameter, shape and lenght - with a custom solution at the end of it to make a proper bellmouth. Well, not really a bellmouth, I don't want a weakened return pulse so a fairly narrow radius. As for pics, I have a policy of not showing anything detailed in public unless the owner of the bits give his consent.. so ask Joel.
No worries mate, sounds like you are quite a way through the development anyway.

Joel are we allowed to see any pictures of what is being done to the inlet at all yet mate or are you keeping things close to your chest?
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what performance stats u think u r going to see ie top speed and 1/4 mile
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Joel you are everywhere
Hope i can visit you soon for a test drive

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Yes, there's a bit more to do than expected.. Joel or Ingar removed the first foot - quite literally - of unneccessary (we don't want it to tune at the right intake pulse for pulling down a brick shithouse at tickover anyway) intake runner, now I am working on removing the last 2.5" of it and replacing them with decent sized tubing - both diameter, shape and lenght - with a custom solution at the end of it to make a proper bellmouth. Well, not really a bellmouth, I don't want a weakened return pulse so a fairly narrow radius. As for pics, I have a policy of not showing anything detailed in public unless the owner of the bits give his consent.. so ask Joel.
Haha, you have your own special way of putting it into words Bjørn

Yes , there will be pictures, it would be a shame not to show you, the once again, ingenious work of bjørn

Let's just get the stuff totally finnishef first!

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what performance stats u think u r going to see ie top speed and 1/4 mile
Errmm....it will be quite fast -both in a straight line and in the curves, that's all i can say at the moment..

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Joel you are everywhere
Hope i can visit you soon for a test drive

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Naaah Kenneth, i 'm not! This is where i'm at

We should be able to make that possible i think
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Wish i could aford to built somthing half as cool as this.
ALL builds with some real personal effort put into it is cool, that's how I look at it anyway!! so just look forward, set yourself an achiveable goal - and go for it 100%

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Time for a little update...

Had a (new) setback, wich isn't very hard to fix, just extreeeeeamly boring and none motivating stuff to do...

It seems the size of the Tremec3650 and the TKO housing is not as similar as the spec's say they are.. so with the real trans fitted , we did not get the angle of either the engine or the trans right...
Yep, up with the angle grinder again..... :S

This was not the dream stuff to fettle with now as the car is coming together...

The new "lid" getting there....

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On the other side you can see the profile of the new centre console, wich will be made out of alu and carbon


Mixed updates.. :

The Dash is getting quite digital, the main 8" instrumet in centre talk to the engine management and other stff trough can-bus, and a 12.2" lcd to the right wich is connected to the cars on board computer, whom will have quite a few tasks on board... you'll see those later , the sound system will of course also be based around the computer as well.


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Two channel wide band lamda instrument to the left in the picture,theese two corrected signals are also fed to the engine management, wich in turn also has it's separate wida band lambda sensors. 100% controll on lambda values has got a high priority after many years of engine tuning.

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Looks pretty good for a 30 year old for

rear :

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details front :

Quite spacious for wheels/tyres at front as well

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Fuel system soon complete.

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Convenient to be able to let most of the front be able to come off...

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Clutch and brake reservoairs in place and plumbed.

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Not to happy about doing welding,priming,grinding and painting again...takes its toll on motivaton theese summer days.... :S

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nice update, its coming along now

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Time for a little update...

Had a (new) setback, wich isn't very hard to fix, just extreeeeeamly boring and none motivating stuff to do...

It seems the size of the Tremec3650 and the TKO housing is not as similar as the spec's say they are.. so with the real trans fitted , we did not get the angle of either the engine or the trans right...
Yep, up with the angle grinder again..... :S

This was not the dream stuff to fettle with now as the car is coming together...

The new "lid" getting there....





On the other side you can see the profile of the new centre console, wich will be made out of alu and carbon


Mixed updates.. :

The Dash is getting quite digital, the main 8" instrumet in centre talk to the engine management and other stff trough can-bus, and a 12.2" lcd to the right wich is connected to the cars on board computer, whom will have quite a few tasks on board... you'll see those later , the sound system will of course also be based around the computer as well.





Two channel wide band lamda instrument to the left in the picture,theese two corrected signals are also fed to the engine management, wich in turn also has it's separate wida band lambda sensors. 100% controll on lambda values has got a high priority after many years of engine tuning.



Looks pretty good for a 30 year old for

rear :



front :



details front :

Quite spacious for wheels/tyres at front as well



Fuel system soon complete.



Convenient to be able to let most of the front be able to come off...



Clutch and brake reservoairs in place and plumbed.




Not to happy about doing welding,priming,grinding and painting again...takes its toll on motivaton theese summer days.... :S
I would imagine it was a bit frustrating mate but look on the bright side of things, the car can't be too far off its first outing now can it.
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Getting there can't be long now

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Thanks guys

Well, it still is abit to go, unfortunately, but i don't want to rush it either just to get it done... I want it to be quality also in the last part of the build, but yeah, it shure is coming along nicely now, and is more or less a complete car again at least
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