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Got the car home yesterday and all i can say is i hate the way it drives
i remember the last time it was off the road for the winter it took me ages to get used to it again and this time it's worse 
Still suffering from high tick over so i've taken the plenum off to recut every mounting thread as they are all shit, these Hart plenums are a joke.
i remember the last time it was off the road for the winter it took me ages to get used to it again and this time it's worse 
Still suffering from high tick over so i've taken the plenum off to recut every mounting thread as they are all shit, these Hart plenums are a joke.
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Got the car home yesterday and all i can say is i hate the way it drives
i remember the last time it was off the road for the winter it took me ages to get used to it again and this time it's worse 
Still suffering from high tick over so i've taken the plenum off to recut every mounting thread as they are all shit, these Hart plenums are a joke.
i remember the last time it was off the road for the winter it took me ages to get used to it again and this time it's worse 
Still suffering from high tick over so i've taken the plenum off to recut every mounting thread as they are all shit, these Hart plenums are a joke.
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Got it MOT'd yesterday and straight through it went - bringing it home tomorrow on the trade plates but not taxing until September so have a couple of weeks to clean it all up - but i'm planning on sending it for mapping in October so i need at least 800 miles on it before i take the journey so i'll be trying to use it as much as possible at weekends to get it all bedded in - one thing is i just can't bring myself to taking the split's off as it looks so good and the stance is perfect, but i know they have to come off for now - the bodykit on the drivers side is also not playing game, once you distort the arches when rolling the kit doesn't fit straight on it needs a little help and this is going to be bonded as the strongest tape just isn't doing the trick.
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Originally Posted by Rs Craig
that top pic looks stunning you cant beat a clean black car

Until i can get some machine on it to get reading it's hard to tell as the shape of the car is rounded but it just seems the rear wheels sit perfectly straight with a little more toe in which can look odd against the car's body shape then comparing to the front wheels which sit with a few degree of -camber .
The car will be on the road as off next weekend so i'll be putting a few miles on then i'll see what settles.
Other than the above i've only been messing with the Hart plenum - all 5 threads on the top row were pretty much shot - the lower row were in good condition but i helicoiled the lot - TB end again the top 2 were shot, 1 was really bad and the other needed attention so again all 4 were done - just need to clean the plenum off and refit and test.
I will fit the Airtec throttle bracket for now but i'm still confused as to why i can't get full throttle like i did with the forward mounting bracket - the last reading i got was 0.35v closed & 3.09v open which is far from ideal - with the cable off the bracket will open to the required reading but theirs no way it can with the cable on. This confuses the fuck out of me as all cables are the same and looking at it to get what i need the spring would have to be shorter for when it's fully compressed
Or get another forward facing bracket made.But for now whilst it's running in i won't be needing full throttle so that can be addressed when it goes for live mapping.
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Sorry Glenn been on long shifts - the oil seals are from BRT bearings
The seals are
Small one BRTS17X28X7
Large one BRTS20X32X6
Around Ł20 the lot
Can't remember what type of grease went in them mate, maybe graphite as i did these the same time as the shafts
I have just been for my first real drive on the road, wound it up to 10psi and it pulls along nicely, not sure if i'm going to like the sound of the cone filter when it's running full boost as it's really loud - in fact i can't even hear the dump valve
Having a little idle problem and just set the warm idle at 900rpm with the iscv disconnected is this likely to be the cause of the issue as i have just rebuilt the whole inlet so i'm sure their isn't an air leak.
If i try to plug the iscv plug in the rev climb very quickly.
PF09 set to CT 0.35v
What's the best way to clean an ISCV? do i need to strip it?
The seals are
Small one BRTS17X28X7
Large one BRTS20X32X6
Around Ł20 the lot
Can't remember what type of grease went in them mate, maybe graphite as i did these the same time as the shafts
I have just been for my first real drive on the road, wound it up to 10psi and it pulls along nicely, not sure if i'm going to like the sound of the cone filter when it's running full boost as it's really loud - in fact i can't even hear the dump valve

Having a little idle problem and just set the warm idle at 900rpm with the iscv disconnected is this likely to be the cause of the issue as i have just rebuilt the whole inlet so i'm sure their isn't an air leak.
If i try to plug the iscv plug in the rev climb very quickly.
PF09 set to CT 0.35v
What's the best way to clean an ISCV? do i need to strip it?
Sorry Glenn been on long shifts - the oil seals are from BRT bearings
The seals are
Small one BRTS17X28X7
Large one BRTS20X32X6
Around Ł20 the lot
Can't remember what type of grease went in them mate, maybe graphite as i did these the same time as the shafts
I have just been for my first real drive on the road, wound it up to 10psi and it pulls along nicely, not sure if i'm going to like the sound of the cone filter when it's running full boost as it's really loud - in fact i can't even hear the dump valve
Having a little idle problem and just set the warm idle at 900rpm with the iscv disconnected is this likely to be the cause of the issue as i have just rebuilt the whole inlet so i'm sure their isn't an air leak.
If i try to plug the iscv plug in the rev climb very quickly.
PF09 set to CT 0.35v
What's the best way to clean an ISCV? do i need to strip it?
The seals are
Small one BRTS17X28X7
Large one BRTS20X32X6
Around Ł20 the lot
Can't remember what type of grease went in them mate, maybe graphite as i did these the same time as the shafts
I have just been for my first real drive on the road, wound it up to 10psi and it pulls along nicely, not sure if i'm going to like the sound of the cone filter when it's running full boost as it's really loud - in fact i can't even hear the dump valve

Having a little idle problem and just set the warm idle at 900rpm with the iscv disconnected is this likely to be the cause of the issue as i have just rebuilt the whole inlet so i'm sure their isn't an air leak.
If i try to plug the iscv plug in the rev climb very quickly.
PF09 set to CT 0.35v
What's the best way to clean an ISCV? do i need to strip it?
Thanks.Lee.
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I'm going to do it tonight Lee, i've just been out in the car and it's starting to tighten up and settle in the chassis department and engine is starting to feel easier to drive - idle set at 900rpm without the iscv connected and pulls really well to 10psi
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Well it's on the road and running like a bag of crap
the idle is all over the place, when i set tps to a recommended setting which it has been before 0.35v Closed Thottle i can't get near WOT figure of 4.5-5.0v then when setting the warm idle it works the complete opersite when cold the car won't tickover and i've done all of 50 miles and i've had enough. i've cleaned the iscv which appears to be working.
I genuinely keep thinking of just locking away and leaving there.
The car handles well but knocks and bangs, kangaroo's, whines you name it and it's about a million miles from being a road car now which a couple of years ago was great but now i want to use the car with the family it's feels like i can't which is the enjoyment part straight out the window.
And top it all off it's done the last 25 miles to Ł25 of fuel, it's massively overfueling and i'm now where near anyone that can set up these.
It's booked in with James at MSD for live mapping in 5 weeks and i still need to put 750 miles on the motor which if i keep going this way will be fucked by the time i even make it there.
Totally disheartened with it if i'm honest and just want a basic car i can run in then enjoy after mapping
Question for any engine builder, tuner.......
One option is to drive it down to Blackpool 93 miles away but i wasn't sure if sitting on the motorway for that length of time is going to be idea for bedding a new motor in?
the idle is all over the place, when i set tps to a recommended setting which it has been before 0.35v Closed Thottle i can't get near WOT figure of 4.5-5.0v then when setting the warm idle it works the complete opersite when cold the car won't tickover and i've done all of 50 miles and i've had enough. i've cleaned the iscv which appears to be working.I genuinely keep thinking of just locking away and leaving there.
The car handles well but knocks and bangs, kangaroo's, whines you name it and it's about a million miles from being a road car now which a couple of years ago was great but now i want to use the car with the family it's feels like i can't which is the enjoyment part straight out the window.
And top it all off it's done the last 25 miles to Ł25 of fuel, it's massively overfueling and i'm now where near anyone that can set up these.
It's booked in with James at MSD for live mapping in 5 weeks and i still need to put 750 miles on the motor which if i keep going this way will be fucked by the time i even make it there.
Totally disheartened with it if i'm honest and just want a basic car i can run in then enjoy after mapping
Question for any engine builder, tuner.......
One option is to drive it down to Blackpool 93 miles away but i wasn't sure if sitting on the motorway for that length of time is going to be idea for bedding a new motor in?
Seems alot of disheartened cossie owners these days
hang in there Chris..
Chris, don't you think of selling mate, it'd be criminal all that hardwork..
Edited to say.
This pic is epic mate...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...IMAG0002-1.jpg
Chris, don't you think of selling mate, it'd be criminal all that hardwork..
Edited to say.
This pic is epic mate...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...IMAG0002-1.jpg
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I know the feeling mate my 3dr is by far the worst car I have ever driven on the road in every possible way but as soon as I get it on track it comes alive so I would not have it any other way !
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Well it's on the road and running like a bag of crap
the idle is all over the place, when i set tps to a recommended setting which it has been before 0.35v Closed Thottle i can't get near WOT figure of 4.5-5.0v then when setting the warm idle it works the complete opersite when cold the car won't tickover and i've done all of 50 miles and i've had enough. i've cleaned the iscv which appears to be working.
I genuinely keep thinking of just locking away and leaving there.
The car handles well but knocks and bangs, kangaroo's, whines you name it and it's about a million miles from being a road car now which a couple of years ago was great but now i want to use the car with the family it's feels like i can't which is the enjoyment part straight out the window.
And top it all off it's done the last 25 miles to Ł25 of fuel, it's massively overfueling and i'm now where near anyone that can set up these.
It's booked in with James at MSD for live mapping in 5 weeks and i still need to put 750 miles on the motor which if i keep going this way will be fucked by the time i even make it there.
Totally disheartened with it if i'm honest and just want a basic car i can run in then enjoy after mapping
Question for any engine builder, tuner.......
One option is to drive it down to Blackpool 93 miles away but i wasn't sure if sitting on the motorway for that length of time is going to be idea for bedding a new motor in?
the idle is all over the place, when i set tps to a recommended setting which it has been before 0.35v Closed Thottle i can't get near WOT figure of 4.5-5.0v then when setting the warm idle it works the complete opersite when cold the car won't tickover and i've done all of 50 miles and i've had enough. i've cleaned the iscv which appears to be working.I genuinely keep thinking of just locking away and leaving there.
The car handles well but knocks and bangs, kangaroo's, whines you name it and it's about a million miles from being a road car now which a couple of years ago was great but now i want to use the car with the family it's feels like i can't which is the enjoyment part straight out the window.
And top it all off it's done the last 25 miles to Ł25 of fuel, it's massively overfueling and i'm now where near anyone that can set up these.
It's booked in with James at MSD for live mapping in 5 weeks and i still need to put 750 miles on the motor which if i keep going this way will be fucked by the time i even make it there.
Totally disheartened with it if i'm honest and just want a basic car i can run in then enjoy after mapping
Question for any engine builder, tuner.......
One option is to drive it down to Blackpool 93 miles away but i wasn't sure if sitting on the motorway for that length of time is going to be idea for bedding a new motor in?
Put it on the back of a tow truck, 100 mile will cost about Ł100 and by the sound of it you would use that in fuel driving it. I'm sure MSD can set it up on a temporary safe map for you to run it in.
Well it's on the road and running like a bag of crap
the idle is all over the place, when i set tps to a recommended setting which it has been before 0.35v Closed Thottle i can't get near WOT figure of 4.5-5.0v then when setting the warm idle it works the complete opersite when cold the car won't tickover and i've done all of 50 miles and i've had enough. i've cleaned the iscv which appears to be working.
I genuinely keep thinking of just locking away and leaving there.
The car handles well but knocks and bangs, kangaroo's, whines you name it and it's about a million miles from being a road car now which a couple of years ago was great but now i want to use the car with the family it's feels like i can't which is the enjoyment part straight out the window.
And top it all off it's done the last 25 miles to Ł25 of fuel, it's massively overfueling and i'm now where near anyone that can set up these.
It's booked in with James at MSD for live mapping in 5 weeks and i still need to put 750 miles on the motor which if i keep going this way will be fucked by the time i even make it there.
Totally disheartened with it if i'm honest and just want a basic car i can run in then enjoy after mapping
Question for any engine builder, tuner.......
One option is to drive it down to Blackpool 93 miles away but i wasn't sure if sitting on the motorway for that length of time is going to be idea for bedding a new motor in?
the idle is all over the place, when i set tps to a recommended setting which it has been before 0.35v Closed Thottle i can't get near WOT figure of 4.5-5.0v then when setting the warm idle it works the complete opersite when cold the car won't tickover and i've done all of 50 miles and i've had enough. i've cleaned the iscv which appears to be working.I genuinely keep thinking of just locking away and leaving there.
The car handles well but knocks and bangs, kangaroo's, whines you name it and it's about a million miles from being a road car now which a couple of years ago was great but now i want to use the car with the family it's feels like i can't which is the enjoyment part straight out the window.
And top it all off it's done the last 25 miles to Ł25 of fuel, it's massively overfueling and i'm now where near anyone that can set up these.
It's booked in with James at MSD for live mapping in 5 weeks and i still need to put 750 miles on the motor which if i keep going this way will be fucked by the time i even make it there.
Totally disheartened with it if i'm honest and just want a basic car i can run in then enjoy after mapping
Question for any engine builder, tuner.......
One option is to drive it down to Blackpool 93 miles away but i wasn't sure if sitting on the motorway for that length of time is going to be idea for bedding a new motor in?
If you have a lambda meter in the car check the afr and see if its ok, If not you should be able to tell msd how far out it is and they could prob tweak the map so its closer to you engine spec.
Mark
Strange how we change about our cars.
I always liked my modified 3 Door the best, noise, speed etc, but now I am preferring my standard 3 Door, refined, quiet, no knocks etc.
Or maybe I am getting old now lol
I always liked my modified 3 Door the best, noise, speed etc, but now I am preferring my standard 3 Door, refined, quiet, no knocks etc.
Or maybe I am getting old now lol
Brammer my 3 door now knocks and bangs , since i fitted the UPRATED diff mount..... but i can live with it and use it most days . As for your problems i only use one tunner and he is spot on with these cars . he is in romford essex . Not sure how far up north you are but if you want the car sorted get it to him. He has told me he has a hell of alot of new customers from up north,birmingham etc with mk2 cossie escorts and 3 doors .
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Brammer my 3 door now knocks and bangs , since i fitted the UPRATED diff mount..... but i can live with it and use it most days . As for your problems i only use one tunner and he is spot on with these cars . he is in romford essex . Not sure how far up north you are but if you want the car sorted get it to him. He has told me he has a hell of alot of new customers from up north,birmingham etc with mk2 cossie escorts and 3 doors .
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Cheers mate, my missus has always stayed quiet about the cars over the ears but she's actually said that fucking car is doing her head in due the time and stress & money it's taken to get to this point.
I'm going to have a word with James in the morning to see if i can get an emergency slot as i know he and Stu are both mega busy with the new RR unit and both have holidays coming up
As others have said Chris,
Best to get it to your prefered tuner.
Mine ran poorly to begin with and was using an obsene amount of fuel but after Harvey did some tweeks to the map it now revs more freely (Is still getting better as still only done 300 miles) actually idles when coming off the throttle and uses alot less fuel.
As with the knocks and bangs, best thing I did was remove the uprated diff mount.
I have however been informed the with the uprated mounts the bolts to the diff casing sometimes need cutting down shorter, however I have not even measured or checked mine and will leave as it is on the Escos till its worn out.
Best to get it to your prefered tuner.
Mine ran poorly to begin with and was using an obsene amount of fuel but after Harvey did some tweeks to the map it now revs more freely (Is still getting better as still only done 300 miles) actually idles when coming off the throttle and uses alot less fuel.
As with the knocks and bangs, best thing I did was remove the uprated diff mount.
I have however been informed the with the uprated mounts the bolts to the diff casing sometimes need cutting down shorter, however I have not even measured or checked mine and will leave as it is on the Escos till its worn out.
If you Want a road car. Remove anything that's designed to be for track. Coilovers etc.
Ring will p, he'll come to you and check it over so you can run it in. It'll need an oil change if it's massively over fuelling
Ring will p, he'll come to you and check it over so you can run it in. It'll need an oil change if it's massively over fuelling
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Lock it away but don't sell up just becouse the way you feel you may feel different in a few years I promised my self I never will sell my saph I've had it the last 10 years now every time I take out not very often that boost spike does it for me and I've got coil overs lol good luck mate
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As with the knocks and bangs, best thing I did was remove the uprated diff mount.
I have however been informed the with the uprated mounts the bolts to the diff casing sometimes need cutting down shorter, however I have not even measured or checked mine and will leave as it is on the Escos till its worn out.
Meant to speak to you regarding the prop bearing - how did you know yours had failed as i'm wondering if to replace mine, did you get your gearbox mount sorted?
Spoke to Will earlier, had a good chat and tried a few things - managed to kind of stabilize it more, another tweak with the idle should see it right. If you see this Will many thanks

Thought about that Andy and it may be something i do in the future, back to Koni & Bayjoo springs
You really need some form of fuel monitoring gear chris to see whats happening, even if the idle is poor you may find the fuelling is spot on a cruise so you can happily run it in like that untill i can sort it when it gets here.








