SapphyMike

with new wiring, or would a Grp A be a MUST?

Anonymous

Std 941 2wd/4x4 saff external pump is fine at 360bhp....You need to change at 380bhp plus.

Karl

Yes with good wiring and new filter.

SapphyMike

thankyou guys!

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

When you say Std... do you mean brand new deffo working fine std or 15yr old might be FUBAR std?

In fact, my own question i expect will adequately answer yours.

Basky

had my saff rollin roaded and hesaid the pump was on its limit at 20psi on greens,would the sweedish style manifold cause it to do this or would you recomend to check wiring it peaks at 20 and holds 19 347 bhp but only 320 lb of torque.even thought of running 2 std pumps as i,ve allready got them

SapphyMike

Stu,

brand new pump

Karl

Basky more than likely wiring, check working voltage at pump I bet you will be suprised!!!

On my own car I run 4 gauge cable direct from battery to boot, where it goes through two relays and a pair of 8 gauge cables to power my two 044 pumps. Over kill it may seem but what price do you put on reliability!!

Ginge !

that sounds like 500 quid roughly there


so the price on reliabilty is 500 quid


ive just got a 044 a while ago and am gonna be uprating the wiring,,,,, wondering if a power cap is a idea for em too or is that REALLY over kill

i dont mean 1 farad to btw , just enough to allow there to me a constant and regular voltage,,,,,,, and so it looks pretty

Basky

[quote="Karl"]Basky more than likely wiring, check working voltage at pump I bet you will be suprised!!!

On my own car I run 4 gauge cable direct from battery to boot, where it goes through two relays and a pair of 8 gauge cables to power my two 044 pumps. Over kill it may seem but what price do you put on reliability!![/quote


will be runnin relays on pump shortly as its only a track toy
been told to run it of the altonator is that right or will the relays be better
wots the working voltage please!!!

Karl

B19 bal you do talk some shite!

A power cap is used on car audio systems to allow for excessive current draw for the amps during heavy bass from large subs.

A bosch 044 fuel pump on the other hand draws a pretty constant current under load so some sort of cap is totally unecessary?

Where do you get these weird ideas from?

SapphyMike

LOL

SapphyMike

i'd be using 8 gauge, and uprating the big 3 with 8 gauge too.

frog

Karl, Ginge is a lateral thinker of the best stable

Ginge !

i never ment a actual audio cap,,,,,, just a form of a voltage regulator to keep the power consistant so the pump dont actually worry about surges ect


its just a thought of other ideas,,,,,,,,,, its no different to the comment about having 17 fuel pumps for reliabilty


remember im just looking into ideas and what potentially can cause a problem,,,,,,,,, i dont need more flow rate at all,,,,,,, but im sure a genuine voltage is a good thing surly


so i dont get the talking shite,,,,,, or is it the tuners job to think of all other ideas,,,,,,,, ocasionally some people from out of the tuning game have ideas that can work im sure

no need to belittle,,,,,, im far from a hater and so a comment like that makes me wonder what kind of a person YOU actually are


a simple " that would be pointless as the fuel pump dont draw 1 normal current but is actually varied so it wont work" might have been better


or just explaining where im looking wrong at it would have been nice


seriously some people FORGET they used to be mere mortals who was learning about engines,,,,,, they all seem to find where they are and then act like they was born with a gift and never actually learned it by asking silly questions


being told stuff aint how you learn but looking into ideas IS the best way to learn i tend to find


cheers for the nice comment though

Karl

Ginge you give you fair quota of shit to everyone including me. Im just getting you back for taking the piss out of my looks. (i.e. I look young)

Now pop yer dummy back in and calm down.

RichardPON

I did as suggested.
I used the original pump feed as the trigger for the relay, and then used 8 gauge cable off the mid-mounted battery to the relay, and then 8 gauge power and earths off the pump.

Ginge !

karl i wasnt being offensive saying you look young,,,,,,, aint my fault i thought you was my paper boy,,,,, genuine mistake honestly


on a serious note i dont give shit to people i have a good natured pisstake that i honestly dont have a issue when its done back at me

just like everyone calls me ginge,,,,,,,, im cool with that BUT when a dick calls me ginge as a insult i take offence,,,,,,,,, even though its the same word its the contex its taken


back on the fuel pump i was genuinly thinking that a proper regulated ecu and fuel pump voltage would be a good idea,,,,,,, otherwise if the alt was failing or the bat aint too hot wouldnt there be a voltage drop that could make the ignition/fueling drop or not be acurate like it should


that was my thoughts on the matter,,,,,, again its just a thought so i could be talking shite


and my dummy aint spat,,,,,, just mentioning what i was thinking


btw when you see mr patell ask him if he can cancel april 17th for me as i think im going away so wont need the beano that week

Karl

LOL as I said earlier you are talking shite ginger.

Ginge !

ok,,,,,,,, so that saves me some cash then

to make it pretty ill just use a bling fuse box

Basky

bling bling
pimp my pump

Stavros

If i bought a s/h cossie pump and did some decent wiring etc etc, how likely is it to work ok for about 340bhp?

Karl

Ginge, just use some nice aeroquip lines and fitting, a swirl pot, lift pumps, 2X044s etc mount it all in the spare wheel well and top it off with an nice clear acylic lid and circular pink neon. That will look bling!!!

Ginge !

steve aint that the same as asking how long a second hand bar of soap will last


surely theres not way to know that

Ginge !

not a fan of quip tbh

have thought of 2 pumps though but its not really over kill,,,,,, more pointless on my car

SapphyMike

Depends if you get a wash i guess.. if you dont, then forever

Stavros

thats true, but wondered if anyone had experience of how the pumps degrade over time

bud-weis

have it flow tested and keep an eye on it. they do 'degrade' over time ( Stu had a problem recently i think ) if when it's tested it's fine i doubt it's gonna die for a while. Is this for one of your jap cars??