Danny @ Enhanced Performance

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bit harsh paul . but why has it taken so long to post trev?

RSTurboTrev

Ive just never posted for some reason, where ive wanted to youve had to be a gold member, like in for sale section etc. and to be honest was worried about what people thought of the paintwork on my escort!

Anyways i best be off to bed, ive got an important job to be getting on with tomorrow!

alfacossie

hes a slow typer pmsl

RSTurboTrev

My typings ok, just my wording of things is shit! lol

Danny @ Enhanced Performance

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just go to bed and get on with that job tomo.

Damo V

ROFL at this thread, wow look at the coincidence ... these three users being online at the same time

Anonymous

So you know the parts i have in my engine, thats clever cos i dont know where some bits are sourced. Mine has bespoked crank, rods , pistons & now Block, No other car will have them so how can you say the bits you are being quoted for are the same as other engine builders. We have just proved that even the Nikaseal Mountune block cant take 850+bhp for long & the new one is a one-off so not cheap.
A engine Specced to run 850bhp as mine , aint cheap dont think competative price, think whos done it & proved it before.
Faced between abc or Martin, not a hard decision surely.
Rod

andre_k

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martin, if i was to win the lottery, how much would you want for the eggenburger rs500???

Danny @ Enhanced Performance

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ah rod getting your word in ah.you dont know whats in your engine cos you never built it and you only know what mark tells you. as for proof of engines paul the customer has plenty of proof of some mental engines that are my ideas (and customers) but built by joe stevens who you probably dont know of but has been building race engines and f1 engines for 15 years now any 1 who thinks they are going to 800 or so hp out of a yb and get 1000s of miles is mad cos your not.thats why paul is only looking for the strip and track fun etc any crank rods pistons for this conversion arent going to be off the shelve so dont think your the only 1 whos got this sort of engine.you dont have to have the same internals as you to get 700 bhp theres lots of different routes and i will say like martin we wont use more than 2 bar boost to get it either.your cars been awesome and well done but just cos others with same sort of power(without gas) arent in your face dont think they dont exist they do and you will see more this year.we al know martin can build great engines but his not the only 1.some people dont advertise for this sort of stuff and because they are better known in the racing world dont need to but as joe does al my special stuff with and for me it will get alot more known watch this space

Anonymous

Well said..many ways to skin a cat

Danny @ Enhanced Performance

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cheers bosch man

Alg1k

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Danny @ Enhanced Performance

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nice 1 alg 1k whats spec?

Alg1k

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I dont know i only drive it Karl from NMS has specked my engine
Made 540 hp atw on low boost 1.8 bar .

alfacossie

if you actually read the thread you will see that my comparrison is compared with mountune and pj as i have said they quoted alot more than both martin which i have allready said is my best quote and abc. but as you point out with the block issue they cant guarentee me the power and that it will last!! besides i dont wont it to be constant 850bhp i want it to be 800ish with gas.

also im well aware that this kind of spec aint cheap i havent once said that it is all i have said that from the list of things that need to be done to get the power which have been the same almost idetically by the 4 people that i have asked for quotes, was that abc is competetive which i think is good for them!!! i know martin has built his engine which is proven hence why i have discussions with him that im not going to post on here!! abc also now have an engine between 700 and 800 bhp and so far its looking good!! i use them 1 as they are local and 2 because for the sort of specs that my engines are, they get as they have said a guy called joe to build them!!!! do you have any contacts in the formula 1 world??? especially in the engine building department?? if so you will now of joe and also fred anderson!!! these are both very highly respected people in the f1 world, fred actually races an M3 in germany with a home built yb running 930bhp with out gas!!! but he isnt into the modified scene hence why you dont ever hear of his engine!!! your in to the scene and people recognise your car which is great for you but doesnt mean that someone else cant build or have the same power engine as you. and as ive said the basis was on 4 places ive asked for a quote, which happen to envolve 3 very well known places. martin wasthe best quote and his cars have been out there proving what he does which is a fantastic achievment for him and his company. i was pointing out that even with the sort of thing that im after i would consider abc for my work as i know the contacts that he uses for serious engine work.

TM

The bit here that makes me laugh is the way since abc have come around is the amount of newbies coming on here with 400+hp engines biult by abc looks like all there mates are posting it ,
I would like to see a Joe costing of one of these engines coss it aint going to be cheap So then how can a second party sell it on so cheap with all the right bits

TM

Have any of you with these big abc engines acctuly been at the dyno while your engines have been power tested and not just got a graph

Diablo

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Whilst I don't know anything about ABC Motorsport, Joe certainly knows a thing or two about building engines.

I have also seen his collection of F1 cars and F1 engines...very impressive...

MikeR

Joe was recomended to me by the guys on the Cosworth stand a few years back at National day, i know of a few engines from him that appear pretty sound, never seen them dynoed though,

But i agree, how can a middle man sell an engine on to his customer and still make money after paying somebody else to build it ? thats if thats what happens, it might just be that Joe offers guidance in some shape or form.


Mike

Danny @ Enhanced Performance

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im not a middle man i work in conjunction with joe as i promote doing this stuff and he doesnt as for the cost of these engines you lot dont know how much they are cos we havent stated a price on here al iv said is we can match martins price.as for dyno power al our engines are dynoed by tommy field or on the od occassion by mountune so if you want to doubt the power of our engines ring them yourselves and ask.but as joe is curently having his dyno cell built as we speak we wont have to rely on any one else doing them and any one is welcome to see my video of our first dyno when done

Anonymous

Joe is top notch he is building my engine at the moe top bloke a lot of time to explain stuff to me as i need education lol.And as said tommy does his dynoing

Porkie

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Heard nothing but good things about Joe Stevens.

Martin would of course be my choice though.

ABC and Danny are good friends and Danny clearly puts alot of business their way so maybe ABC are making little or NO money on being the middle man and are just keeping a customer/friend happy to keep his business in the future. That would make sound business sense to me!

Good luck in whatever you decide Danny. Is the engine going in the Alfa or the Escos?

TM

Is your engine going on the dyno, will you be there to watch it if yes.

Anonymous

Yes she is being dynoed but i dont think il make it to watch tbh.Id like it to be videod.Im hoping for around 600 ish bhp

TM

Why not as this is the most important part and no bullshit if you see it with your own eyes.

Anonymous

I live accross the other side of the country and when i go up there id like to be collecting.

TM

So you own a car and can afford it

Anonymous

I doute anyone cares anymore mate rod has bored the crap out every one with his im so great posts about it lol

Anonymous

U what?yes thx mate i can afford it lol just i dont fancy a 2 hour drive there and 2 hours back just to watch a engine rev up in a room lol

Danny @ Enhanced Performance

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yes joes a good friend and we do lots of bussines together and believe me if joe tells you a power fig it wil be true he wont bullshit and if you met him you would know that straight away so thats why ecosigne trusts him. (is this rod stacey?)everyone will go to where they feel safest in this game and i found out the hard way myself years ago and since iv been doing this i treat customers the way i like to be treated.you dont need to bullshit power figs to get known just good engines and cars and they will be the proof

Cossie Helen

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@ all the new users

Anonymous

Yum i was offerd the engine months and months ago Infact nearly 6 months ago lol when i bought his box and yes i wanted the exhaust manifold and the inlet.But ranj being ranj he wanted me to buy the lot.lol

alfacossie

the engine is going in the alfa. im leavin the escos for an every day type of car. so should be good as 8oobhp and 840kgs is very good power to weight

Porkie

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Sorry but I disagree. The figures that come up on the screen and are printed can be manipulated by the operator if he really wants...

Porkie

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840kg how comes its that light mate???

alfacossie

serious weight saving really. the car wasnt overly heavy in the first place but then i got all the bumpers side skirts front wings bonnet boot lid etc made out of either carbon fibre or fibre glass, plus ive cut away any unneeded metal work in the car but it will be lighter soon hopefully when the doors are finished and the perferated floor fitted, but then a stronger cage to fit the relocated engine will prob bring the weight back up

alfacossie

thats the bullshit its self anyone can make the figures appear on the screen as porkie said but then if it does produce the power i would wont to know why its producing and not just because the bost is turned up.

you sound like the sort of person that would run 3 bar to get the power on the screen but the bhp is really just a side effect of the work thats being done!! i wanted a 500bhp engine and i got it but its built to run more if i want it but then whats the piont of straining the engine im happy with it daily running 506bhp @1.8 bar!!! amd also as for that stuff about have you actually seen it i put my car on 3 dirrerent rollers and then use the middle one as my power as there is loose and tight rollers there fore if you use 3 and then use the middle one you know your gona be near as damn it. so as i said mine is 506.6bhp and yes i see it run every time as thats my preference

Richie Russ

When i bought my Escort Cossie, the engine had been done by Bluesprint Motorsport, it blew up when taking the car home from Manchester to Kent when i bought it, im not saying that it is the fault of Joe as the car was probably hammered around a fair bit before i used it, but....

I will say however, that when another reputable engine builder examined the engine he fell about in a fit of laughter when he saw what parts had been used, make of that what you will.