kay2

As title why do you guys think that the only car that is any good in that bracket that is any good, when now you can pick up much nicer looking and faster cars which are newer for the same money or less than a shopping trolley???
This is being discussed on another thread at the mo but i thought i would start one for this topic
you guys are nearly as bad as R5gt drivers

Jim Galbally

there are no other cars in the same "class" imho...

you get a lot of car for your money, and not much will touch em for the same money...

Spiky

iTrader: (1)

ok, can we have a race you in your bean tin against my shopping trolly??????

Ryan

there not so blinkered, why have you come to that conclusion?

you show me a faster car you can get for the same money?

i bet you find it extreamly hard

SapphyMike

foreigneRS

examples please.

and all this from a fwd shopping trolley driver

for me, it's the combination of relatively bland looks and performance that makes them great cars. also they're simple and cheap to tune/maintain/repair.

Stavros

What car can you get for the same cash with the same potential performance (for the money spent on tuning) as a saff cossie?
Nothing! (Never owned one, got a skyline, but im not stupid enough to agree)

And Reno5GTT have been running 12sec 1/4s for years with 1.4 8v engines, running standard crank, rods, manifolds, and often even std cams or totaly std bottomend, on roadlegal tyres, road fuel, and no nitrous, so that argument is a bit shit too
(And no, they not unreliable like people think, only when not looked after, jus like a RST, belive me, ive owned a few...)

wes

Cheapest way into cossie ownership and if you don't listen to the bellends with "shopping trolley" comments it's all good. Saphs are better built than 3dr's, and the escorts are better built than saphs, who fookin cares? Saphs look the meanest fromt he fron IMO

kevsrs

You've got a clue

Ian2wdsaffcos

All of them? You not see my replies on that other thread then?

Spiky

iTrader: (1)

Saff cossies owners win that me thinks


it's bacially a street sleep as standard.


as it donesn''t stand out like a ferrari or 3dr or esco cossie,

yet will waste or at least give VERY fast cars a run for their money

DaveEscos

...... oh hang on..

whoopsie.. i dont own a saph (thank god )


best take back that rolleyes then

Oranoco

I don't think it's blinkered there really aren't many other options that allow you to go as quick for the money. A good Saph Cossie is in the same Price bracket as an Imprezza. The Cossie is cheaper and easier to tune and doesn't feel the need to eat piston 3 at the drop of a hat.

What else is there? An earlier Evo perhaps is the only other option I can see that's in the same catagory that genuinely delivers the goods

Spose you could get a Rover 620Ti but then that's just being stupid isn't it

wes

IMO YB Cosworth engines are the cheapest engine to tune (and get proper power)in the world bar none! What other engine can give you around 310-320 bhp for roughly £800? (Greens, 3bar, chip + exhaust)

Ian2wdsaffcos

All true


BUT

Cola

Everyone knows Saphs are tatty old taxis... fiestas are shopping trollies.. and all series 2's are common and cack.

Anyone else wanna be offended?

That said my boyfriend's cab is running far better than my Escos at the mo.

Oh and just to even the balance...

Signed Cola, driver of a girlie 4x4

jasonp

its esc cossie owners who are blinkered,they buy one and thionk they own the road and no everything........................

















..................eh dave

Cawood

evo?

DOO

They nothing that can match it

Stavros

Only very early EVOs are similar price, and only EVO3s look good, 2s and 1s look gay as fuck.

Tuning wise they dont come close tho, power for pound, nowhere near.

SapphyMike

aye, but we dont have red replica's and silly looking shades for magazine shoots... not to mention pink shirts

kay2

Nissan sunny Gtir, Fiat coupe, evo, subaru, mr2 turbo, celica gt4.......just off the top of my head, i know my car is a bean tin and now with hindsight i wouldnt have spent the money i have spent i would have saved for the 5 years i have owned it and been the proud owner of a nice tiptronic carrera 2.
i mean whenever a post starts about another car saph drivers all say in unison i nailed one the other day, yes but numpties they look better, have more appeal to the opposit sex and cost the same or less for a newer car and if bot5h were standard are faster

kay2

Nissan sunny Gtir, Fiat coupe, evo, subaru, mr2 turbo, celica gt4.......just off the top of my head, i know my car is a bean tin and now with hindsight i wouldnt have spent the money i have spent i would have saved for the 5 years i have owned it and been the proud owner of a nice tiptronic carrera 2.
i mean whenever a post starts about another car saph drivers all say in unison i nailed one the other day, yes but numpties they look better, have more appeal to the opposit sex and cost the same or less for a newer car and if bot5h were standard are faster

CabrioTurbo

S2 are only common if you live in essex!
I total agree with most of the people here when they say you really cant get more for your money (performance wise) shame the base models etc were adopted my the cab drivers

SapphyMike

If you need a nice looking car to pull you must be one ugly mutha fucka shamone!

kay2

oh and dont say what other car can you tune to etc etc because its a little predictable and BORING, im talkin out of the box looks handling and speed THERE ARE BETTER CARS FOR LESS MONEY, mind you most of the saph drivers you see in mags and at shows are overweight and bald so you wouldnt really suit a sporty looking car

foreigneRS

only 2 of which have the 4 door practicality of a sapph, and NONE are as cheap to tune or the sleeper looks

foreigneRS

nothing wrong with that

CraigN

lol if you think those cars are nicer

ask anyone here who owns a saph if they bought it because it looks good (PGTIPS dont count )

saphs look like boats

as everyone has said for the money you wont get a faster car

fiat coupes are shite and prices are rediculous and there fwd

mr2 turbos handle like there on a aquaplane test track and due to the lack of space for an intercooler have limited tuning potential

old subarus are now cheap but stil lcost a lot more to tune and expensive to rebuild when the engine goes pop

as steve said the evo you can get for saph money is shite and still has limited tuning potential for £

the only 2 decent cars on your list are the pulsar gtir and the celica GT4

but there still jap and still cost a lot more and they look worse than my saph especially those box car pulsars

Cola

DaveyBoy, are you reading this?

Oh and CabTub, I live in Herts

kay2

like i said looks handling and speed, didnt say anything about picking up people at ranks witha little TAXI light on top did I

MadMac

@ this thred.

Cus fords are cheaper than jap crap!!!!

Ryan

ok so............your average saph 3-4k + 800 for Stage 3 for a realistic 310bhp

Nissan sunny Gtir..............really slow after about 60
Fiat coupe........not as fast as you tihnk, my mates got one, and i used to beat it im my RST.
evo............yes maybe, but only a really early one and no match for a 330 bhp cossy
subaru................same as GTIR
mr2 turbo.........hahaahhaaha
celica gt4..........dont make me laugh.

you show me a car with over 330 bhp for 4k? that can match the performance of a saph.

Phil

iTrader: (1)

the best bit about Saphs is that if you write it off, you can make a phat profit from breaking it anyway!

kay2

see from a buy and drive point (not tuning) of view not one of you have given me one good reason to buy a saphire cosworth never mind paying 5-7grand for one

CraigN

lol @ out of the box

cossies are old cars

how many of them are still stock

the only car i would like is an evo and they are £15k + for a nice one

oh and im not that fat and im defo not bald

SapphyMike

I know what this thread is about.... you're just gutted cos you own a shit car and would really love to own a Sapph Cossie

This is just a post to try and justify not owning one to yourself... just do it

Daveyboy

what can i say Co, they are just bang on there aint they!

Ryan

5-7k for one

you been looking on ebay to much. 7k will get you a mint 400bhp cossy like mine was! rebuilt, resprayed, rims, suspenstion everything!

and that would absloutely kill everything on that list!



granted saph arent the best looking, but the all round package is superb, comfortable, room for 4 people easily, and boot space, cheap to buy, cheap compared to other on that list to repair, cheap to tune.

YOU CANT BEAT IT!

kay2

RS2300 4x4 wrote:
kay2 wrote:
Rich talking out of his ARSE again, residual values are crap???? doesnt this make them a bit of a bargain to pick up, brucie bonus in my view, two choices a fucked saff for 5 grand on a g plate or a nice looking 20v turbo with a nice interia on a p palte with like 60000miles on it, let me think???
prone to cracking manifolds- as opposed to all the little faults you get coming up on saffs and three doors every car has a week point



My Saphhire cost me £4500 on a H plate

Decisions decisions. FWD hair dressin' hommo car or 4WD "classic"

Mark

exactly yuo fecking numpty??!!!
compare that to my friends 20v turbo which he paid £4300 for, full service history 57000miles already had the belt change absolutely mint in a lovely metalic blue compared to your white H plate shopping trolley (classic ROFL ) and i love fords mate but dont make me laugh, supercar looks for 4 1/2 grand or a fecking sierra, go play with yourself you anarack
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ive pasted this over just to prove my point, and im so glad i put this thread up coz you have alll proved my point. oh and as for jealous i dont think so mate i could have bought a saph for less than whats in my engine bay cost