SapphyMike

so then Chav Dave, you dont think that crapple finish is as shit as your dress sense then? my, you are blinkered son

Ryan

hahahaha wasted a R32.



next you'll be telling me it was a GTR and it was off the lights

kay2

yes and it was fast but then that had 20000 invested in that, again out of the box pound for pound why cant you just admit saphs arent exactly a good deal

Ryan

if he had 20k invested in it then he's either got a monster monster saph, or you've been reading max power and he's or she's feeding you serve horse shit!

its the same as any car, you make you choices, he didnt have to invest 20k in it

SapphyMike

The cossie was released in 1986.. at that time there wasnt another car for the money that could touch it.

in 1988 ford released the sapphire cossie. once again, most affordable cars struggled to get close, infact the only one that did was the M3 iirc.

you're comparing a car built and designed in the early 80's, to the cars of today / mid to late 90's. Of course todays car's are going to look better... unless you're talking super cars, but thats a different issue, one you'd have no idea about anyhow

We need a dumb ass smiley

DaveEscos

not at all mikejinder

it looks superb. as does everything else lets see some pics of your japati mobile... before you can start spouting off about other cars!

all i can assume so far is that its a saph... so your down on points already!

Stavros

you saying, in your beantin you mean? you beat a R32GTR that had 20grand spent on it?

for 20k i could get a R32GTR running mid/low 10sec quarters

You sure it wasnt a wanky GTST and the driver was a billy liar?

Or you mean a std R32 GOLF that someone had bought for 20k...

3doorPete

It's horses for courses - I can see by the size of wheels on your Sig that you care more about improving looks than handling.

Perhaps one day you will end up owning that body kitted Corsa you dream of with it's factory smoked rear lights and 1.2 16v engine......

PEOPLE DON'T BUY SAPH'S FOR THEIR LOOKS!!!!!!

CozzyBrom

oh this post my sides my sides
avrage saff all been tuned Ł3000
avrage bin tin rotten rsturbo Ł600
saff 270 bhp
rst 130
a good driver in a xr31 will leave a rst for dead
the handle and rot like no other ford
how may saffs are rotten compared to rst
i think yopur just pissed off you spent all that cash on your boy racer nail and carnt aford to run a cozzy
out the box 200bhp

DaveEscos

yes, code it as :sapphymike:

kay2

sad loser student, sorry for wanting to better myself, yes the photo in my sig is photoshopped to remove people and cars around it. 2grand yes it was 5years and 15grand ago, whogives a toss, obviously you seeing as you have to be offensive, im nopt putting them down i am stating they arent that good value for money and the owners will never admit that there are better cars about............this has even been noted on other sites when saphire owners go on them insulting the people or there cars ussaully with statements like "my 1988 taxi absolutely killed your car the other day" or "i cant believe how slow your cars are"



anyway the response of your average saph owner has been well documented in this thread, point proven.
not many people have turned around and said oh yeah such and such is a good car etc or yeah ild have one of them also???

CozzyBrom

just to add i have drive all type of cozzys
am a 3door owner and have owned 3 of them
and 3 saffs
so am not a blinkerd saff owner
i have driven all types of cars
rs1600 i being the worse of all
followed my the mrk 5 rs2000
then the rst due to poor handling and brakes

Paul Eggleton

How the hell did you fit in a RST and 16i

CozzyBrom

beam will be fitted backwards
now

Ryan

@ pauls comment.

ohhh and kay the reason why no ones agreeing with you is perhaps because your wrong? did you ever think of that?

SapphyMike

I have abso fucking lutely nothing to justify my car. i personally dont care what other people think of it. its sheddy, its got a bit of rust, the alloys are kerbed and the interior is worn...

I know my car is a shed so

DaveEscos

so maybee we should call you sheddymike

kay2

lm not going to even reply anymore, your bloody pathetic, iwasnt talking about 18 years ago im not talking modified, im not talking about my car (im fully aware that it has been a waste of money) im not pissed off with anything about my car, I AM ABOUT THE ATTITUDE OF SAPH DRIVERS TOWARDS OTHER MODELS OF CARS, my point has been proven..


Thanks guys

Ima can i come be your friend, i now understand how you feel, say summat they dont like they suddenly change into moronic zombies who cant read or be objective,

Stavros

What the fuck you on you lemon

Half the people replied here dont even own saffs and they agree you duno what you on about

And who cares about standard? Almost NOBODY has a car like a Cossie, EVO, or anythnig similar, and leaves it bog std



Go home

DaveEscos

back on track.. i think buying a car JUST for the engine (which in the majority of saphs now will be shitty and old) is a tad nobby styles

ok so if a car looks shit, rides shit, squeaks and rattles like shit, is as rusty as shit, shitty old shit interior ... but has an engine that can be made very quick for Ł800

is thta really all that matters!?

think not

Ryan

i reckon even IMA thinks your an arse!

i think its you that have the problem not us!

first of all you tarnish us with some sort of brush, then you tell us were all wrong even though you've never owned one

oh and another thing

PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDNT THROW STONES

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

Oh thats easy.... Audi S2..... 240bhp, Quattro 4WD, 0-60 in 5.7, 154mph top end, price = Ł3500-Ł9,000

Leather, air con, ABS, manual or semi-auto tiptronic.... List goes on with the spec

Rather have one of them over a Taxi-Cos For the performance from the box I would have one over an EsCos, but then the EsCos wins on the looks front - infact if the EsCos only had a 1600 n/a x-flow I would still buy one for the looks

swerv

no-one mentioned the E30 M3???

i think they are great cars out the box and are a real alternative to the sapph , instead of going all jap

cavalier turbo , not bad out the box , crap transfer box but comfortable to drive. fairly untunable though!

id go with the M3 if i had to have an alternative , as these look loads better than the sapph , but still have their fair share of problems now plus youll only get a high miler or early one for Ł5k

kay2 i think that you are pissed off that youve spent the money on an escort and are now lashing out at other ford owners

CozzyBrom

no one is having a go only you
what is your job ?
what cars have you driven
your blinked your rst being the best in the world
i have drive nails vw beetles to prestage cars worked on them all
you carnt compare a rst to a saff
out the box there a good car for Ł3000 nothing else will touch one for that price
no scooby will stick with a cozzy and scoobys cost more then than that

Stavros

E30 M3s arnt that fast tho, and pretty untunable

Stg1 a cossie and you kill it, all for 200quid (as if it wont already be at least stg1'd, lol)

Theres a lot of nice cars you can buy for similar money, but everyone mods cars, and performance per pound, its not easy to beat a saff for you usual street racing etc

CraigN

my saph is mint

find some rot and i will give you the car

dave i bought it purely for the engine

you are a known bufty boy not everyone has your tastes

especially in shirts and glasses

RichardPON

Kay,

I presume most of this post is aimed at me, after what I said on the other Fiat 20V topic.

You seem a little out of your depth here mate, and you seem to be struggling.

Here, take this shovel and keep digging, whilst I point out the error of your ways

I have owned a sapphire Cosworth for four years, two of those whilst I was a student. For me, it was the cheapest way to get into high performance motoring, and get involved in a car scene that has allowed me to make loads of good mates, and have a quality laugh.

If I know what I know now, I'd never have bought one, but at the time, I didn't envisage just having a pure track car, and being so obsessed about track days. It took Porkie of all people to point out the fact that the saff isn't a great road car/drivers car, but the Cosworth engine helps it become a great track car.

I have driven more cars than you could possibly imagine, including EVOs, Scoobs, Skylines, etc and found nearly all of them far better to drive than any sapphire!

I also have the use of a Nissan Pulsar GTiR with 300bhp anytime I like, bearing in mind it's my Dad's car, and that absolutely kills my saff in acceleration, and handling/B-road driving - fantastic car!

My views on the Fiat 20V Turbo come from working in a garage, where we have serviced, repaired, and worked on plenty of them. Of the four we've seen in the past couple of months, all of them had normal repair work carried out, and recieved bills of Ł600 + - and we are not an expensive garage.

Of course you must have worked on plenty of Fiats in your time, and invoiced the owners for the work involved. Obviously you know first hand what the running costs involved are like, and aren't just spouting some performance figures from a mag, and going by what your mate told ya!

So next time you reply to someone saying they are talking out of their arse again, make sure you come prepared with all the facts. You are entitled to your opinion, but make sure you back it up with some facts.

There - you can put the shovel down now.

Anonymous

Was waiting for one of the other penniless millionaires to pipe up

Shame you'll never afford any of them
Talk is cheap as they say

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

Rather have an E30 M3 though. Classy cars with awesome handling and balance. Deffo future classic. Shonky has a nice one... its like stepping back into the 1980's getting in it no rust, rattles and stuff either...

But 200sx is SOOOOO the way forward

But for straight line grunt and performance per pound then yes a Saff is alot of car for the cash.

Cola

As you all know I'm the first one to jump on the shite taxi saph bandwagon but it's like all things, some have been very nice and can fly. Not all squeak, rattle and roll. I don't think anyone would have knocked back Rainbirds one pre roundabout. Of course some are minging rotters but that can be said for all cars.

Oh and lol @ Rich Pon and the shovel.

SapphyMike

Dave,

So why did you buy an Escort then?

Personally, i'd much rather not own a ford and have something like a Ferrari 308 GTB, but hey, thats life.....

DaveEscos

i didnt mean all cola, i meant the majority

cheap accesssible motors, hence people buy them, cant afford to run them, and run them in to the ground!


btw got your pm, Ł200

Cola

Ahh the majority Dave.. okay... I'm with you there then

Ryan

the majority not everyone

DaveEscos

because for me, and for 15k, the escort is superb. nothing else for me looks as good. It has the pedigree.. the looks, the grunt....

drives smoothly, a great round town car.. no squeaks, rattles or bumps

i would go on.. but i can sense your looking at your log book in anger ! rofl

kay2

right to clear up a few things.......

1.i didnt say i raced an r32 with 20000 in it that was standard (sisters fiancee)
2.the car with 20000 grand in it was saph, it was quick, but by his own admission it was crap when he bought it.
3. Im not big upping my car, i would rather not have wasted the money on it, and definately not wasted it on a saph, like i said earlier i wish i had of saved and now had the money to invest in a quality car.l
4. yes pon your remarks did inspire me to put upo this post, however not on its own, posts like that have been going on for years now here and on Rs BB pefore...
5. Im only stating that saph drivers seem to be blinkered by the fact that they can be tuned easily to 330bhp (when in good nick) and forgeting all there other flaws, and that a more appealing car can be purchased for the same price.
6. i love fords and respect them including the cosworths as true pioneers in the performance/modified car world, however at least im honest in saying that they arent the beall and endall of cars in their price range and hardly the best looking

However once again someone puts up an honest post and gets linched........ i bet there are plenty of people who are reading this thread who feel exactly the same as me but either havnt or wont reply due to the response they will get.........

Cheers all rison:


p.s. its like if i wanted a cheap track car i wouldnt use an rs, i would buy a cheap 1.9gti even though my favourite cars are fords or porsches, same reason if i wanted 220 bhp looks and performance i wouldnt buy a cossie

RichardPON

It must be you with the blinkers on then - you've just proven that! A more appealing car to whom? You! It would appear not to everyone else!

I think you'll find there are plenty of people who think you're talking out of your arse and have replied

SapphyMike

Dave,

Just wait a bit, and it'll soon start rattling, squeaking, rusting and falling apart like the best fords do

DaveEscos

how true! fords are complete SHITE!

Ryan

kay2 is obviously bitter, she probably got a good thrashing from a shed of taxi saph last night after she wasted that R32