scoooby slayer

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I don't know if anyone can remember but I'm sure there was a 1000 hp yb on here either for sale or in a chat thread

It's a while ago just wondered if anyone remembers it as I can't find it and wanted to take a look

I think it was a drag engine

GVK.

https://passionford.com/forum/ford-r...her-parts.html

scoooby slayer

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That must be it mate, I thought there was one with a dyno plot and it also was used in a car, think I'm going senile lol

GVK.

I saw a JEMS built engine that was at the Autosport show one year. I haven't been for donkeys years and did start to look through my old pics until photobucket fucked me off for using adblocker

turnover

Yes think it was jems with the alloy blocked engine

GVK.

Really old thread here about a dragster

https://passionford.com/forum/genera...-quarters.html

smiley

https://passionford.com/forum/genera...o-1010bhp.html

scoooby slayer

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That's the one mate I'm not going senile after all

smiley

Haha I rememberd seeing it too mate

visa_broke

didn't mo own a big power cossie for a bit but found it slow to his rs turbo

lee2cossies

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There’s been a few past 1000hp now, probably the most well known is the ag focus, engine built by harvey Gibbs, it made 989hp on engine dyno and 1000+ on rolling road. Properly takes abuse on track too and has run low 9’s at Elvington on a damp track.
it would be good too see what a big capacity one would do, as I’m sure it’s possible too go to 2.7 litre with the smith and jones block.

scoooby slayer

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I'd love to have a read about that car is there any info on here or on internet somewhere else ?

lee2cossies

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There’s a fast ford feature from a few years back on it and there was a thread on here about it years ago. There was talk of an even more powerful engine being built as it went up against Andy forests 7 second impreza at knockhill and got beat. It’s not been used for a while now, also a YouTube video of the rolling road power run.
another one worth looking at is the tsakitas performance escort, probably spelt that wrong, a Greek drag escort, still runs an iron 200 block claims 1300hp, and did a 8.2@180 on its first 1/4 mile run.

cossynut2

GVK That is what you call a big turbo!!!

zetaboostboy522bhp

As stated above there are a few tuners that have taken the engines over 1000bhp or very close. Theres a massive difference between a drag engine thats a full throttle for 8 to 10 seconds and a race engine on and off power lap after lap. I must say the engine that really impresses me is the harvey gibbs/ag motorsport one as its just unreal how fast the car is . Its a super all round package and can do drag , track basically everything . I know its a smith and jones alloy block with one of there big ccm heads , big turbo . I think it ran a t72 turbonetics turbo originally as ian howell let harvey borrow his turbo after his duratec engine failed but not 100 % sure on this

I bet you dont get much change from 30k for a harvey engine , which is not to bad as julians godfreys rallycross engines are 60k

I talk to steve westbury and hes a machinist for smith and jones and they have just started making a early 205 cast iron block again upto 2.7 litres with all the added strenghtening areas designed into the block like the alloy block.
price is the same Ł3900+vat.
He also said they use a very high grade of casting metal and in his words the blocks take some machining.

scoooby slayer

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I searched YouTube and found the focus

925 crank hp at 3 bar of boost, must be on race fuel I assume what a monster

Shootout mode DD dyno aswell which is perfect

Adam-M

Karl there’s some great videos on you tube of Andy giving that f
thing death round knockhill, tbh it has been very reliable considering it’s only used for circuit racing.

scoooby slayer

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I would imagine it's alot easier keeping the head sealed with a Smith and Jones motor compared to a modded old 200 block, as with everything in life the only limit is ones wallet

its interesting Smith and Jones are now doing a cast engine, why based around a 205 and not a 200 though ?
I wonder if they will be even tougher but heavier than the alloy one ?

Adam-M

I think it’s based on an rs500 cast iron block but has a through stud design, would imagine it being allot stronger than the cast aluminium version. Might be built for historic race cars are ultimate power drag engines.

scoooby slayer

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Weight wouldn't bother me, if I ever need another block I would want the strongest available stock dimensions to put my rotating assembly in

zetaboostboy522bhp

Correct on both areas , based on the early rs500 block but with the extra added areas the alloy block has so stronger than the rs500 block. They can also do the through stud head bolts.
they have only machined a few so far but with historic racing taking off in a big way that's where most are being sold.
ive asked Steve which are stronger and his honest oplnion is they don't know . He said they have seen a lot of Harvey's engines seeing close to 1000 bhp and he posted a picture today and the block had jge penned on the side so he uses them as well.
i personally think the cast iron block will be stronger but a lot heavier.

cheers paul

zetaboostboy522bhp

cheers paul

scoooby slayer

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It's great there making the iron blocks again must be plenty of demand for them to do it

zetaboostboy522bhp

I think any business to do with producing old original parts are be going to be in demand because of historic racing. Now there's a proper race series again everyone's getting the cosworth racing again.

cheers paul

Adam-M

They look amazing kinda wish I went down the through stud block route with mine wouldn’t be far off what mine is costing, bet the sump won’t leak with how perfect the block base has been machined.

scoooby slayer

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Depends if these Smith and Jones cast blocks will need machining and liners putting in ?

smiley

spoke to steve about these when I priced the alloy block with him, the thickness of the cast iron ones will take 1000+ bhp he said

scoooby slayer

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Bore walls must be alot thicker than the old 200s then mate

smiley

Yes mate

smiley

But until somebody buys one a takes it thier it's just words aye

scoooby slayer

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That is the thing, at least the alloy ones have been proven to take it