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Old 01-12-2005, 11:14 PM
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Default 1000bhp or so cossie running 7.7 quarters

In malta.

Anyone got any pics?
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this might be it,not definatly though m8
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certainly looks along the right lines but i cant see a nitrous kit on that one, and the one im on about has one.
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thats an old picture Chip... could havebeen up dated now
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i know this engine was running about 800bhp about 18-12 months ago but dont know any history since,but the car is from cyprus or malta so maybe a good chance of being the one
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7.7 is fuck me quick...iirc the cossie in question has only done a 9.2ish something...FAST.....But 2 secs off the pace of a 7.7..........
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theres 2 mk1 escort tube framed cossie powered cars running 7's and there another in the 8's, also another pinto powered car running 8.8secs

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the above picture is not a maltese escort. This one above is from Cyprus.

the Maltese Escort is a MK I model...

http://www.greekdragster.com/images/...cort/index.htm





Without any doubt Emanuel’s (known as id-Dilja) Competition Altered Escort Mk1 is now in its top class, and surely is one of Malta’s best ever. Mangion is now a veteran in Maltese the drag racing scene, having more than 15 years experience. At that time drag racing was shifted from Ta’ Qali to Hal-Far, where at the time, it was still an abandoned military runway.

After experiencing an accident year 2003, Mangion decided to have a break from racing and handled his steering wheel to Alan Zammit. Driving Mangion’s Escort for two years, Zammit is now the leader of the MDRA national championship. The project took its kick off in 2004 at the Bambinu Garage in Rabat, where brothers Joe and Richi Galea (Bambinu Brothers) started re-building the 105-inch wheelbase full Chrome-Molly chassis and roll-cage.

After a rigid chassis and roll-cage where ready the Galea brothers where also commissioned to create the whole fibre body, which I have to say they both made a good job. After it was finally finished, Churchills Garage spray painted the body with AutoPaint International’s products.

While the chassis/body where being worked out, tuner Charles Camilleri of Zoqdi Racing Team was mounting the 2.0 Ford Cosworth engine’s main components onto its aluminium racing block which is obviously the most important feature on this Drag Racing engine.



A Turbonetics T8 Turbo was fitted to the engine with a Charge Intercooler to keep it cool along the various custom-made parts. This Turbo will surely give that extra horse power to touch the 7 seconds marks. The engine is given C-16 VP Racing Fuel for better performance. The Zoqdi Team also installed an HI Power Nitrous System, which is obviously mostly used in the nitrous classes. As for the engine management system a DTA ECU was chosen to work with the MSD ignition system. Apart from all these important features, Camilleri decided to fit a Liberty 5-speed air-shift transmission. To finish the whole job a Mark Williams rear-end and drive shaft where also fitted.

Emanuel Mangion is now riding the wave of success of his driver Alan Zammit, who has been driving this Escort for the last two years. When asked about the teams future prospects, Mangion said: “We are really optimistic to break the national record and why not, may be also the European Record! We are registering a personal best in every event with the best one being 7.858sec, so things are looking to be on their good way”.

For the next MDRA night event many are the competitors who are expected to clock very good times. This especially applies for the Competition Altered Class, where as usual all its respective participants will be an attraction and also in the Dragster Top Alcohol class where the Elbros Racing Team will be competing Fontana dragster.

Also present in Malta in the past weeks were the media team of Performance Ford magazine. The crew where invited by Charles Camilleri of Zoqdi Racing Team to feature Mangion’s Altered Escort in their magazine. The Escort project couldn’t arrive to this stage with out the sponsorship of Gree Air-Conditions, Churchills Garage and AutoPaint International.



Another very fast MK I Escort from Malta... Its Chris Polidano's 7second monster....

http://www.greekdragster.com/videos/...no-nefraim.mpg
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Chris Polidano's 7's second monster is currently the fastest in malta,
I was involved with the building of europes fast 4cylinder record holder and although chris is getting close the car would not comply to SFI standards of safety making the car extremly light. is nice car and a great family as I've spent time with them.
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Fascinating stuff, thanks for the info
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this turbo is H U G E




glad i can help mate...
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compressor housing looks more like a gearbox casing in terms of its size!
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http://www.greekdragster.com/videos/...4_polidano.mpg

another video of chris polidano's monster escort...
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nice oil filler cap there! how do they put it in?
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Originally Posted by big_wig_074
nice oil filler cap there! how do they put it in?
It will be dry sump with a seperate tank mate
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Originally Posted by big_wig_074
nice oil filler cap there! how do they put it in?
dry sump'd, so fill through a tank.
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Originally Posted by Danny B
Originally Posted by big_wig_074
nice oil filler cap there! how do they put it in?
dry sump'd, so fill through a tank.
That'll be the only time im ever quicker than you in a race Danny
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Danny B
Originally Posted by big_wig_074
nice oil filler cap there! how do they put it in?
dry sump'd, so fill through a tank.
That'll be the only time im ever quicker than you in a race Danny
my reaction times get better as the day goes on. ha ha
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I appreciate these cars are fast in a straight line, and the engines are fantastic engineering acheivements, but I just don't see the point in doing this to road cars IMO. If you want a race car why build one out of an Escort when that Escort could be turned into a big power road car?

Just my opinion of course.
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Originally Posted by BlueSmoke
I appreciate these cars are fast in a straight line, and the engines are fantastic engineering acheivements, but I just don't see the point in doing this to road cars IMO. If you want a race car why build one out of an Escort when that Escort could be turned into a big power road car?

Just my opinion of course.
why?

why did rod/MAd build the only 200mph+ sapph??

because they can!
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Originally Posted by BlueSmoke
I appreciate these cars are fast in a straight line, and the engines are fantastic engineering acheivements, but I just don't see the point in doing this to road cars IMO. If you want a race car why build one out of an Escort when that Escort could be turned into a big power road car?

Just my opinion of course.

I think a better and more important question is "why not?"
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Originally Posted by BlueSmoke
I appreciate these cars are fast in a straight line, and the engines are fantastic engineering acheivements, but I just don't see the point in doing this to road cars IMO. If you want a race car why build one out of an Escort when that Escort could be turned into a big power road car?

Just my opinion of course.
there aren't such spec road cars. Well, almost...

The point of going race spec on a road car is to conquer titles such as a most powerful streetable cossie, the fastest streetable cossie etc... Of course streetable is defined differently among people...

For example one guy in Athens considers his 717 all wheel power dog box 3dr Saph faced Cossie streetable, because he wants to be the fastest cossie in greece, or other guys with 650awhp Evos, 900bhp 9.3 second imprezas, even 11 second fiat Unos or 12 second 106 Rallyes... These cars are streetable bc their owners drive them around...

Now, when drag racing you use a class and then you try to fix the fastest car... To tell you the truth can't wait to see Cossie powered Escorts, Sierras etc into 6 seconds....

and as above... if you cannot fix it, why not do it???

Soon we are going to have news on a low 9 second Escort Cossie built in Athens.... The owner is the guy who had the Saph below...




news soon....
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6's doesnt even vaguely sound possible from a venerable old YB, but then neither does 7's so it will probably happen!

Fantastic bits of engineering
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Plus having been to Malta and met Emmanuel and Joey Bambino (This guy has the biggest hands you'll ever see Top bloke though) They are also mad passionate, especially about their Ford stuff, and the fact the island is so tiny means there's sod all chance of their being a nice big track to drive round. So drag racing it is, and considering the budgets most of the guys have they do bloody well and outperform our 1/4 times over here time and time again.

I've seen both the Escort's and the Cortina go and none of them are shy, but as Danny said some of the Pinto powered stuff is just awesome, you could sell thousands of music singles if they just recorded their quarter-mile run!

PS. Check out last months Malta show report, that Mk1 Lotus Cortina drove to the meet, and drove back - strictly speaking it shouldn't have but you could now call it a road going drag car lol
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I once saw a turbo the same size as that mk1 escorts on a car up here in Scotland.

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Originally Posted by BlueSmoke
I appreciate these cars are fast in a straight line, and the engines are fantastic engineering acheivements, but I just don't see the point in doing this to road cars IMO. If you want a race car why build one out of an Escort when that Escort could be turned into a big power road car?

Just my opinion of course.
Obviously Dan, I'm all for Rod's Saff as it's a big power road car, if you read what I said



Chip, yeah there's always the why not question, and it's a very good one. I just personally feel that a car is mor enjoyable as a road legel affair that you can take out for a blast whenever you want, rather than building a crazy drag car.

I get the point about Malta tho, with nowhere to go for a fast road blast....
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just think if they were run over here in say october they would prob drop a second due to our cold climate and thier lower charge temps
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Originally Posted by BlueSmoke
Originally Posted by BlueSmoke
I appreciate these cars are fast in a straight line, and the engines are fantastic engineering acheivements, but I just don't see the point in doing this to road cars IMO. If you want a race car why build one out of an Escort when that Escort could be turned into a big power road car?

Just my opinion of course.
Obviously Dan, I'm all for Rod's Saff as it's a big power road car, if you read what I said



Chip, yeah there's always the why not question, and it's a very good one. I just personally feel that a car is mor enjoyable as a road legel affair that you can take out for a blast whenever you want, rather than building a crazy drag car.

I get the point about Malta tho, with nowhere to go for a fast road blast....
Guy who owns it might have a fast road car as well though of course
although more likely is he lives at his parents and has nothing at all other than the car
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Originally Posted by stu21t
just think if they were run over here in say october they would prob drop a second due to our cold climate and thier lower charge temps
colder = less grip


more power wouldnt cancel that out
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Ah, it is the same one the person i know is involved with cause ive just got this picture off of him:

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Chip, Trev knows them very well, there's a family connection with the car as well
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Originally Posted by PF Dave
Chip, Trev knows them very well, there's a family connection with the car as well
Indeed, his daugthers husband and father in law are heavily involved.
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Chris Polidano's dad has a very fast RS500 and also a 9sec escort cos that are both street cars, drag car is for the weekends.
My friend joseph of sehieb racing has a daily mk1 escort diesel that runs 13.2's and goes around bends,thats enought to piss of the the old school boys here. lol
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Some of the diesel stuff now is just mad.

one of the other mods on the nitrous forum has a diesel truck that runs 11s IIRC and is his daily driver used for deliveries and stuff
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Originally Posted by kouzman
Originally Posted by BlueSmoke
I appreciate these cars are fast in a straight line, and the engines are fantastic engineering acheivements, but I just don't see the point in doing this to road cars IMO. If you want a race car why build one out of an Escort when that Escort could be turned into a big power road car?

Just my opinion of course.
there aren't such spec road cars. Well, almost...

The point of going race spec on a road car is to conquer titles such as a most powerful streetable cossie, the fastest streetable cossie etc... Of course streetable is defined differently among people...

For example one guy in Athens considers his 717 all wheel power dog box 3dr Saph faced Cossie streetable, because he wants to be the fastest cossie in greece, or other guys with 650awhp Evos, 900bhp 9.3 second imprezas, even 11 second fiat Unos or 12 second 106 Rallyes... These cars are streetable bc their owners drive them around...

Now, when drag racing you use a class and then you try to fix the fastest car... To tell you the truth can't wait to see Cossie powered Escorts, Sierras etc into 6 seconds....

and as above... if you cannot fix it, why not do it???

Soon we are going to have news on a low 9 second Escort Cossie built in Athens.... The owner is the guy who had the Saph below...




news soon....
Is the Sierra this one?:

http://www.extreme-tuners.com/740hp.html
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Originally Posted by TimGR
yes but this is their old setup. His new setup includes HKS T51R KAI turbocharger, quafie difs and dog box and now its 4wd...
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Originally Posted by kouzman
Originally Posted by TimGR
yes but this is their old setup. His new setup includes HKS T51R KAI turbocharger, quafie difs and dog box and now its 4wd...
'Tis not far from me, but I've never seen the car - saw the "1,000 bhp" Golf at one of the car shows though.
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there is a engine on the turbo
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thats not a turbo ..


its a foookin dustbin


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