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Old 20-01-2013 | 07:30 AM
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK2-RS-200...item1c2f6cd873
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New ebay user, always looks dodgy.
Car is very cheap too
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too cheap to be true, no detail, no feedback and probably a picture nicked off a forum or ad elsewhere. External email address too...
I bet someone with more money than sense still wires him a hefty deposit and wonders where their car is!!
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Defo cheap that.
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does look very suspicious with lack of so much information but you never know

basic dvla check shows that reg is taxed

Date of Liability 01 03 2013
Date of First Registration 06 03 1986
Year of Manufacture 1979
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1993cc
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type PETROL
Export Marker N
Vehicle Status SORN Not Due
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval Not Available
Vehicle Excise Duty rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £121.00
12 Months Rate £220.00

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Old 20-01-2013 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 1-PD
does look very suspicious with lack of so much information but you never know
Its a scam guaranteed, it looks exactly the same as every other scam.

No feedback, external email, minimal details and wants half of its actual value. etc.

Send him a message, he'll be away with work and his friend will deal with it, or he wants a large deposit etc

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Just as I said, it sold on ebay a few days ago for £8600 by the actual owner !!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCOR...p2047675.l2557

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ah well spotted yodi! . what a chancer! picks a distinctive car and thinks nobody will notice!
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What do you mean? I just gave him £2000 deposit and he said his friends will meet me up in a remote place at night with the car and ill pay the rest in cash!

Cant wait!
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scam without a doubt
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Originally Posted by Eigdoog
What do you mean? I just gave him £2000 deposit and he said his friends will meet me up in a remote place at night with the car and ill pay the rest in cash!

Cant wait!
ifeel sick i gave him £1500 deposit last night ment to be picking it up tomorrow
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Originally Posted by fsteward
ifeel sick i gave him £1500 deposit last night ment to be picking it up tomorrow
Surely you're joking?
Old 20-01-2013 | 09:45 AM
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I cant believe people still have to question if these are scam's or not?!!!
its fucking obvious! Now i know why scammers perservere
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
I cant believe people still have to question if these are scam's or not?!!!
its fucking obvious! Now i know why scammers perservere
Completely agree.
Old 20-01-2013 | 09:47 AM
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well managed to get a reply from the seller and he said he never realised he had sold it so he said he will be more than happy to refund me next week
Old 20-01-2013 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fsteward
well managed to get a reply from the seller and he said he never realised he had sold it so he said he will be more than happy to refund me next week
if you have, you are very silly

my advice is, assuming you paid via paypal as goods, open a dispute now. if you havent i think its fair to say you've lost that money
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I've sent him a link to this page lol
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^^ ROFL
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advert has now been removed.........
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What a pr**k needs a good beating plus a few other thing lol
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
advert has now been removed.........
I reported it, and also emailed the original seller with the link.
Old 20-01-2013 | 02:21 PM
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you know its a scam you wouldnt get that for less 1200 grand plus
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had email from the correct owner thanking everyone for pointing this out
Old 20-01-2013 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by YODI
I reported it, and also emailed the original seller with the link.
me too the owner still has it as It did not meet its reserve one of my mates in the trade has told me the scam is you pay a deposit and they meet you after they have stolen the car,and say they don't have the log book as they have just bought it and show a copy of the ebay page to prove it take your money
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Originally Posted by cossiejay
me too the owner still has it as It did not meet its reserve one of my mates in the trade has told me the scam is you pay a deposit and they meet you after they have stolen the car,and say they don't have the log book as they have just bought it and show a copy of the ebay page to prove it take your money

your mate in the trade is talking bollocks, these scams happen all the time, you would think we would hear about all these cars getting stolen straight after they go up for sale....

what happens is they take a deposit with some excuse that someone is coming to see it soon and will need a large deposit or full price to secure it, the money is paid and the seller disappears.
people are so caught up in the idea that they are getting an absolute bargain they happily pay up.

why would they bother stealing the car when they can take multiple large deposits and not have to do any real work/risk getting caught.
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Originally Posted by BigChuck
your mate in the trade is talking bollocks, these scams happen all the time, you would think we would hear about all these cars getting stolen straight after they go up for sale....

what happens is they take a deposit with some excuse that someone is coming to see it soon and will need a large deposit or full price to secure it, the money is paid and the seller disappears.
people are so caught up in the idea that they are getting an absolute bargain they happily pay up.

why would they bother stealing the car when they can take multiple large deposits and not have to do any real work/risk getting caught.
I am only repeating what I was told sorry
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Originally Posted by BigChuck

what happens is they take a deposit with some excuse that someone is coming to see it soon and will need a large deposit or full price to secure it, the money is paid and the seller disappears.
people are so caught up in the idea that they are getting an absolute bargain they happily pay up.
thats exactly how it works, they dont need to steal anything
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
thats exactly how it works, they dont need to steal anything
apart from peoples deposit
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Originally Posted by mgtkr1
apart from peoples deposit
apart from that bit!
Old 20-01-2013 | 08:25 PM
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Hey bargain hunters, dont say I never give you anything!!! 2 in 1 day
Who wants first dibs with getting 'shafted' so to speak

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1954-Porsc...item19d84f57e2
Old 21-01-2013 | 08:56 AM
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this is a copy of the email the seller has sent me had to make up delivery details
eBay sent this message to Jessica Redfern (jadejessemilyethan).
Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay.eBay Buyer Protection Case ID: 15HB2531F



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Old 21-01-2013 | 03:46 PM
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so are ebay saying all is ok and the buyer is insured against £4100 fraud? Thats as long as you follow propper ebay channels of course, plus you cant place a bid on a classified ad- so all payment is going to be outside of ebay really.
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Originally Posted by scott-78
so are ebay saying all is ok and the buyer is insured against £4100 fraud? Thats as long as you follow propper ebay channels of course, plus you cant place a bid on a classified ad- so all payment is going to be outside of ebay really.
3 emails all from what appered to be ebay until you try the links and then nothing,i have spoken to the true owner of the car and he wants a lot more then £4100 the guy is willing to have the car delivered anywhere in the uk at his cost but is working away in Scotland at the moment
did make me laugh that he thought I would part with my money for a car that I have never seen but the ebay emails could con someone
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£3.5 k Lotus cortina anyone? lol
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lotus-cort...item27cf6e27ce
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