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Old 08-03-2005, 10:25 PM
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are pectel wideband sensors normal NTK L1H1 sensors?

pectel want 350 +vat

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Old 08-03-2005, 10:34 PM
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That is soooooooooooooooo expensive

I dont know the answer to this one but I bet Stu does

The equilvalent Bosch one is about £45 + vat from my source (not IMA)
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They are indeed Gareth.

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Old 08-03-2005, 10:35 PM
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SECS, i know mate,, i was gutted when i got the price back

im sure i can use a normal ntk,,

i already got one pectel sensor but i think ive fucked it
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Not sure but I will be buying at least 1 anyway. Was gonna run 2 but think I will settle for 1. It won't be for a while yet but I can save all the details off it when it arrives if you want?
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You lot can moan, i just payed £560+vat for one this week
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Stu @ M Developments, dohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Stu @ M Developments, What was that for then ?
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one thing ive learn,,, always leave the heater plugged in

i havent tried it against my other wideband though,, so maybe i havent fucked it
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Stu @ M Developments, What was that for then ?
Sounds like his Labcell wideband for the AFR meter.
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is the labcell sensor just a calibrated ntk?

i wonder how you get a known standard for lambda so you can calibrate these sesnors?
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I needed to get a new one for my ECM 1200 so have little option but to buy one with all the calibration data.

Basically, you have 14 available technical tests that can be done to perfect a sensors output curve and then be individually entered into the headunit. This then makes the system certified accurate to 0.9% anywhere between 06 and 150 AFR and capable of reading oxygen accurately up to 22%.

As you will probably know Simon, this is currently world leading technology, but at a price

The sensor and sheet:


Its specs:
http://www.labcell.com/product.asp?id=17&pr=46
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i remember emailing labcell ofr information on there equipment,,, i was all for buying one till the price list fell infront of my eyes
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I had similar issues, as did the accountant and bank manager

Peace of mind is very rarely cheap though to be fair.
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I had similar issues, as did the accountant and bank manager
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might take my plug of my pectel sensor tomorrow and see if it tells me any clues!

i know there is a calibration resistor with the normal ntk, but i know this isnt used on the pectel system, because you select which type of ntk your using (1-10 selections)

thinking outloud here
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its always quite funny when my car is having some work done at MSD, all the gear goes on the car, i get in to drive , kenny gets in the passenger seat and before i start the car i get "DO NOT USE THE ALS" then followed by a swift - or it will cost you an extra £650 on your bill
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got my NTK L1H1 sensors from honda with staff discount for 90 quid
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that aint a bad price at all,,, ive noticed that if you shop for them in the usa,, you can get a cracking price on them
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like everything else gareth
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90 quid is still ALOT better than 350 quid plus tVVat,,,

but thinking about it,, 350 is still alot better than 550 quid plud the dredded
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
They are indeed Gareth.

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didnt noticed you editied it stu

thanks mate

whould you know how i would know which one too select in the pectel software?
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
got my NTK L1H1 sensors from honda with staff discount for 90 quid
i was wrong,, the cheapest i can get one is 98 quid

can i have one for 90 aswell
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'fraid not mate. she's only supposed to buy spare parts for her own use, and she's already ordered 3 of these. as they were fitted to only a few models of civic they're gonna know that somethings going on. if it were me, i'd do it, cos i'm a bit dodgy, a bit wee, a bit woo. but she's not like that. sorry gareth.
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foreigneRS, i was only messing mate,, i wouldnt ask you too go out of your way for me

I'll see what my friends in the trade can come up with
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Best price I have got one for is £85 + VAT thats the bosch we have used with a T6

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sibster,

if thats a bosch lsu 4.2 then you can get them for 41 quid
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I got one a while back off Andrew Page.....who does em for £41
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i got my pectel working near as dam right,,,

as too how i got it working is a red face time for me!

i left it in vodka for a bit,, let it dry out for a couple of days,, and seems to be spot on with my other gauge was worth a try
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WTF possessed you to drop it in Vodka?
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well i know that the sensor works on a calibrated gap,, so i thought this might be full of something,,, so i thought ummm need something to clean it out,,, vodka

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