Another failed gated sump causing engine meltdown
#361
Danny I have been without a engine in my car for near on a year now and if I had said something I would of been fobbed of with some old crap story, the evidence has been produced by a very well trusted and respected member of the tuning industry and you are still in denial at anything being wrong with the map.....or did i miss the post where you accepted the fact that the ignition was way wrong.
Personnel issues should stay personnel and when they start messing with your work and career its time to step back, well Luke never did he still took money from people knowing his head wasnt in it and mistakes were made, trust me if i made such mistakes in my job with 30k of peoples money tied up in a kitchen i would be out of business very quickly, fortunately I have to sleep at night and cannot do something for someone without putting my all in it, thats why for the last 28yrs in the industry I am in i have many happy and repeat customers and i plan to keep it that way
Steve
Personnel issues should stay personnel and when they start messing with your work and career its time to step back, well Luke never did he still took money from people knowing his head wasnt in it and mistakes were made, trust me if i made such mistakes in my job with 30k of peoples money tied up in a kitchen i would be out of business very quickly, fortunately I have to sleep at night and cannot do something for someone without putting my all in it, thats why for the last 28yrs in the industry I am in i have many happy and repeat customers and i plan to keep it that way
Steve
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Ant would not expext any other than the fair reply you wrote ...i admit i made mistakes and would love to clear the air with you and over time i probably will !!! But to say i ended up in aug last year with nothing i truly did ! i have been on benifets till just recently and have never been so low ... i have just been quiet and looked after my kids as a man im not to ashamed to admit my mental state was fucked ...i only posted on here as dan contacted me re the moonstone steve thing and i thought ok ill give an explination..please pm me your number and i will contact you ..
Moonstone steve I have nothing to say but get off the band waggon proof is better than speculation ! at the mo you only have the last ! do the test as your car was mint and for 200 pounds !!! think your forgetting about your air leak !!! ...
Moonstone steve I have nothing to say but get off the band waggon proof is better than speculation ! at the mo you only have the last ! do the test as your car was mint and for 200 pounds !!! think your forgetting about your air leak !!! ...
Steve
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no steve the air leak you had before you went on the dyno day and still had there while running your car... and no steve im on here now ALL YOU PAID ME WAS 200 pounds ever !!!!!
#365
I aint arguing with you, you are wrong and I am sure even big Steve could say my car never had a air leak at the rr day or after that, as for the money it was 275, you quoted me 200 on the rr day and when i came back and you mapped it you said and i quote "as i have spent all day mapping it and its spot on it would have to be 275 pounds" me being a twat thought fair enough he has spent all day fucking up my car, my msd chip i will give him the extra and drive all the way home with my air injectors pulsing the bollocks off.
Steve
Steve
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Steve
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it was stated you had an air leak!! and obviosly only if it was the same spec !! and steve your still going off speculation not proof !! end of !
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I aint arguing with you, you are wrong and I am sure even big Steve could say my car never had a air leak at the rr day or after that, as for the money it was 275, you quoted me 200 on the rr day and when i came back and you mapped it you said and i quote "as i have spent all day mapping it and its spot on it would have to be 275 pounds" me being a twat thought fair enough he has spent all day fucking up my car, my msd chip i will give him the extra and drive all the way home with my air injectors pulsing the bollocks off.
Steve
Steve
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From: biggin hill
To be fair who is to determine that one set of melted pistons were the ones that came out of his engine ? All he knows is that when he took his own engine apart he found that they were fooked and sent it all to tony who performed an inspection checked the map and found issues with it that would cause the failure !
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What your saying you dont know, how can you make a comment like that if you dont know, my car never had a air leak, it never changed from the time it left the RR day to when it came back to you for a so called mapping session, what was the problem which I said to you was a easy fix was that with the msd chip fitted it wouldn't make anymore than 18-20 psi nence the low power it made at the RR day, when you was trying to map it you still couldn't get anymore boost out of it until you drilled out the hole in the air injector union of which as soon as you did that i said to you "thats probably what we could of done with the msd chip still fitted" to which you replyed "maybe yes".
My memory is very good, I am known for it and that is how it was, I have no need to make any story up, tell it how it was.
I do hope the new name is in regards to rebuilding your life in 2012 and not peoples engines or cars.
Steve
My memory is very good, I am known for it and that is how it was, I have no need to make any story up, tell it how it was.
I do hope the new name is in regards to rebuilding your life in 2012 and not peoples engines or cars.
Steve
Last edited by Moonstone Steve.; 05-08-2012 at 08:05 PM.
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What your saying you dont know, how can you make a comment like that if you dont know, my car never had a air leak, it never changed from the time it left the RR day to when it came back to you for a so called mapping session, what was the problem which I said to you was a easy fix was that with the msd chip fitted it wouldn't make anymore than 18-20 psi nence the low power it made at the RR day, when you was trying to map it you still couldn't get anymore boost out of it until you drilled out the hole in the air injector union of which as soon as you did that i said to you "thats probably what we could of done with the msd chip still fitted" to which you replyed "maybe yes".
My memory is very good, I am known for it and that is how it was, I have no need to make any story up, tell it how it was.
I do hope the new name is in regards to rebuilding your life in 2012 and not peoples engines or cars.
Steve
My memory is very good, I am known for it and that is how it was, I have no need to make any story up, tell it how it was.
I do hope the new name is in regards to rebuilding your life in 2012 and not peoples engines or cars.
Steve
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. thank you doug
thank you doug that has just brought tears to my eyes ! i really appeciate that comment and yes im just ticking over appreciating everything i have now ! ...
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luke .
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Steve
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i dont really know anything about u are you garage to be honest but clearly mistakes have been made,tbh you just need to focus on you and your kids and building a new fresh future, u done the hardest thing by admitting you had a problem and are coming to terms with it,good luck with it all
#385
Danny I have been without a engine in my car for near on a year now and if I had said something I would of been fobbed of with some old crap story, the evidence has been produced by a very well trusted and respected member of the tuning industry and you are still in denial at anything being wrong with the map.....or did i miss the post where you accepted the fact that the ignition was way wrong.
Personnel issues should stay personnel and when they start messing with your work and career its time to step back, well Luke never did he still took money from people knowing his head wasnt in it and mistakes were made, trust me if i made such mistakes in my job with 30k of peoples money tied up in a kitchen i would be out of business very quickly, fortunately I have to sleep at night and cannot do something for someone without putting my all in it, thats why for the last 28yrs in the industry I am in i have many happy and repeat customers and i plan to keep it that way
Steve
Personnel issues should stay personnel and when they start messing with your work and career its time to step back, well Luke never did he still took money from people knowing his head wasnt in it and mistakes were made, trust me if i made such mistakes in my job with 30k of peoples money tied up in a kitchen i would be out of business very quickly, fortunately I have to sleep at night and cannot do something for someone without putting my all in it, thats why for the last 28yrs in the industry I am in i have many happy and repeat customers and i plan to keep it that way
Steve
Steve you are a lovely genuine fella so im not surprised your business is so good..
There is no evidence at all to prove the map detted your engine ,believe me if there was with all the figures given stu would say straight away!!
Also the vacuum pipe would of deffo caused damage!!
I remember us having talks about it after wards and when the air injector problem was solved you were happy as a sand boy..
cheers danny
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i dont really know anything about u are you garage to be honest but clearly mistakes have been made,tbh you just need to focus on you and your kids and building a new fresh future, u done the hardest thing by admitting you had a problem and are coming to terms with it,good luck with it all
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Steve you are a lovely genuine fella so im not surprised your business is so good..
There is no evidence at all to prove the map detted your engine ,believe me if there was with all the figures given stu would say straight away!!
Also the vacuum pipe would of deffo caused damage!!
I remember us having talks about it after wards and when the air injector problem was solved you were happy as a sand boy..
cheers danny
There is no evidence at all to prove the map detted your engine ,believe me if there was with all the figures given stu would say straight away!!
Also the vacuum pipe would of deffo caused damage!!
I remember us having talks about it after wards and when the air injector problem was solved you were happy as a sand boy..
cheers danny
And what the hell is this Luke is going on about my car having a air leak, can you explain as he says you know all about it.
Steve
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Ive already said what a nice fella you are and il stand by that but tbf you are a kitchen builder and hence dont know very much about engines and there for can only take tonys word for it that luke mapped it bad..
Because of this you are being a total knob head towards luke and thats unfair!! as for him charging you extra!! your a big boy steve and if you thought it was unjust you would of or could of said!!
You didnt even mention it to me afterwards when we spoke so it couldnt of bothered you to much..
This wont be left becuase i stand by that map/luke and this will be proven with all figs and numbers etc with stu msd if he doesnt mind??
If it is proven steve that luke did indeed fuck your map i will personally pay for your new pistons!!
You should find some compassion mate..you might have a good life and a good family but imagine losing them???
Your life would soon go down hill mate believe me!! and i know its wrong to say but when you go through that shit sometimes its hard to hold it together and if running a business or trying too sometimes some people get let down...
cheers danny
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Ive already said what a nice fella you are and il stand by that but tbf you are a kitchen builder and hence dont know very much about engines and there for can only take tonys word for it that luke mapped it bad..
Because of this you are being a total knob head towards luke and thats unfair!! as for him charging you extra!! your a big boy steve and if you thought it was unjust you would of or could of said!!
You didnt even mention it to me afterwards when we spoke so it couldnt of bothered you to much..
This wont be left becuase i stand by that map/luke and this will be proven with all figs and numbers etc with stu msd if he doesnt mind??
If it is proven steve that luke did indeed fuck your map i will personally pay for your new pistons!!
You should find some compassion mate..you might have a good life and a good family but imagine losing them???
Your life would soon go down hill mate believe me!! and i know its wrong to say but when you go through that shit sometimes its hard to hold it together and if running a business or trying too sometimes some people get let down...
cheers danny
Because of this you are being a total knob head towards luke and thats unfair!! as for him charging you extra!! your a big boy steve and if you thought it was unjust you would of or could of said!!
You didnt even mention it to me afterwards when we spoke so it couldnt of bothered you to much..
This wont be left becuase i stand by that map/luke and this will be proven with all figs and numbers etc with stu msd if he doesnt mind??
If it is proven steve that luke did indeed fuck your map i will personally pay for your new pistons!!
You should find some compassion mate..you might have a good life and a good family but imagine losing them???
Your life would soon go down hill mate believe me!! and i know its wrong to say but when you go through that shit sometimes its hard to hold it together and if running a business or trying too sometimes some people get let down...
cheers danny
Steve
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From: biggin hill
Well here it is, a full run down of what went wrong with me and ep . Yes it's me Luke and this post is not inviting a slagging match but thanking those of you who new what happened to me and stood buy me and apologising to those of you who did not get me at my best and lost out !
As your all probably aware I finally gave up last year aug sept time after having cars my life for 15 years ! This was not an easy. Choice but my heart was not in it and my life had gone totally fucked up !
I'm not asking for any sympathy but I just want you to understand how and why things got out of control and so bad .
Those of you who have known me for years will remember the lady ( and I use that term loosely ) I met in 2004 and very stupidly fell in love with ! Well alot of the mistakes I made from abc Motorsport to present was because I spent the last 7 years odd of my life trying to hang on to this shit relationship. Eaven tho every one kept telling me she was a skank taking me for everything she could and yes Danny you were right! I still kept on. She would empty me of money and forever pick me up and drop me as and when she found a new bloke! But yes I went back every time ! I did have my kids and yes I would not change them for the world !
Any way she ran off with a bloke in November 2010 which totally fucked me up and many of you no work started to suffer but still for my kids and familie I tried to get her back and did just before xmas that year . This was my final stupid mistake ! She did not want me back she was a clever cunt with a plan and that plan was to get everything she could out of me Ie cars cash jewellery tvs house all done up then finally dump me over a text on aug the 6 th 2011 leaving me Basicly homeless with a bag of clothes , no car no bussines nothing . Best Bit of all is the bloke she ran off with was the same one from the previous year and had recently. Even convicted of child abuse ( beating a child) . As you all no since the privious year and all the shit I had started to drink heavy . This tipped me over the edge !! I was gagging for the end of every day just to kneck Bottle after bottle of wine . I took the bitch to court as I did not want this new man near my children , as she moved him in the day I left . NICE not . I got what is called a prohibitive steps order on her which ment her new feller could not go anywhere near my kids but as the good mother she is she would rather see her new man so I ended up with the kids 4 days and 3 nights a week every week from last sept till now . Needles to say staying in hotels and friends well those I had left was not easy but I did it ....
It all got a little to much for me in December last year and on the 19 th dec 2011 I found myself sat buy railway tracks with three bottles of wine and two bottles of night nurse totally at the end of everything . I could not tell you what was on my mind that day but I no I was a broken hurt man which I had not eaven admited to myself let alone friends . I took all the. Substances with me and passed out before I eaven made it to the track . I was found and sectioned in hospital to dry me out and to have councillng which to be honest I needed ! I left hospital in jan this year and have been getting on just me and the kids quietly . I have accepted how badly I fucked up and realised I lost everything in life for a woman that was not worth anything !
Towards the end of ep I had a busness partner that nicked money out the company , I moved from. Bolney to Horsham with afr which was a massive mistake I could not afford to run .......
Danny tried and tried to keep me going he eaven lent me dosh to try and get me on my feet again. But it all had to end ... I had to hit the bottom !
I had alot of happy customers and some pissed off ones towards the end . Ill apologise and thank you all ,
So slim and dan thank you for being there and trying to keep me going and still being cool now and alowing me to sort you out .
Thanks to dan warren for listening and keeping cool and alowing me to sort out .
Thanks to Danny p for being there through the whole 7 years
Apologies to peter jan but I still don't no where you sent it !! Don't slag me off pm me now my head is straight a d let's get to the bottom !
Apologies to Antony white for not concerntrating on your car coz my head was not in it. It also thank you for. Being there to talk to !
Apologies to danster for my mess up but I did sort you out well !!!
And a reminder to all those of you like moonstone Steve who found it easy to have a dig when you don't no the full story ! You car was mint and from all my fuck ups there were still alot of good well mapped cars I did and was always willing to help !
The s1 John sarger sorry but no sorry there I gave the whole story at the time and I still stand right in this !
Hope this gives some understanding ! Sorry to all i owe that to and please do not turn this thread in to a bitch match . Luke
As your all probably aware I finally gave up last year aug sept time after having cars my life for 15 years ! This was not an easy. Choice but my heart was not in it and my life had gone totally fucked up !
I'm not asking for any sympathy but I just want you to understand how and why things got out of control and so bad .
Those of you who have known me for years will remember the lady ( and I use that term loosely ) I met in 2004 and very stupidly fell in love with ! Well alot of the mistakes I made from abc Motorsport to present was because I spent the last 7 years odd of my life trying to hang on to this shit relationship. Eaven tho every one kept telling me she was a skank taking me for everything she could and yes Danny you were right! I still kept on. She would empty me of money and forever pick me up and drop me as and when she found a new bloke! But yes I went back every time ! I did have my kids and yes I would not change them for the world !
Any way she ran off with a bloke in November 2010 which totally fucked me up and many of you no work started to suffer but still for my kids and familie I tried to get her back and did just before xmas that year . This was my final stupid mistake ! She did not want me back she was a clever cunt with a plan and that plan was to get everything she could out of me Ie cars cash jewellery tvs house all done up then finally dump me over a text on aug the 6 th 2011 leaving me Basicly homeless with a bag of clothes , no car no bussines nothing . Best Bit of all is the bloke she ran off with was the same one from the previous year and had recently. Even convicted of child abuse ( beating a child) . As you all no since the privious year and all the shit I had started to drink heavy . This tipped me over the edge !! I was gagging for the end of every day just to kneck Bottle after bottle of wine . I took the bitch to court as I did not want this new man near my children , as she moved him in the day I left . NICE not . I got what is called a prohibitive steps order on her which ment her new feller could not go anywhere near my kids but as the good mother she is she would rather see her new man so I ended up with the kids 4 days and 3 nights a week every week from last sept till now . Needles to say staying in hotels and friends well those I had left was not easy but I did it ....
It all got a little to much for me in December last year and on the 19 th dec 2011 I found myself sat buy railway tracks with three bottles of wine and two bottles of night nurse totally at the end of everything . I could not tell you what was on my mind that day but I no I was a broken hurt man which I had not eaven admited to myself let alone friends . I took all the. Substances with me and passed out before I eaven made it to the track . I was found and sectioned in hospital to dry me out and to have councillng which to be honest I needed ! I left hospital in jan this year and have been getting on just me and the kids quietly . I have accepted how badly I fucked up and realised I lost everything in life for a woman that was not worth anything !
Towards the end of ep I had a busness partner that nicked money out the company , I moved from. Bolney to Horsham with afr which was a massive mistake I could not afford to run .......
Danny tried and tried to keep me going he eaven lent me dosh to try and get me on my feet again. But it all had to end ... I had to hit the bottom !
I had alot of happy customers and some pissed off ones towards the end . Ill apologise and thank you all ,
So slim and dan thank you for being there and trying to keep me going and still being cool now and alowing me to sort you out .
Thanks to dan warren for listening and keeping cool and alowing me to sort out .
Thanks to Danny p for being there through the whole 7 years
Apologies to peter jan but I still don't no where you sent it !! Don't slag me off pm me now my head is straight a d let's get to the bottom !
Apologies to Antony white for not concerntrating on your car coz my head was not in it. It also thank you for. Being there to talk to !
Apologies to danster for my mess up but I did sort you out well !!!
And a reminder to all those of you like moonstone Steve who found it easy to have a dig when you don't no the full story ! You car was mint and from all my fuck ups there were still alot of good well mapped cars I did and was always willing to help !
The s1 John sarger sorry but no sorry there I gave the whole story at the time and I still stand right in this !
Hope this gives some understanding ! Sorry to all i owe that to and please do not turn this thread in to a bitch match . Luke
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Neither of us run a tuning business mate but i still help others and have many projects between me and friends..
I will prove you wrong this tony just because you have poisoned steves mind!!
As for lukes mapping as he says we both know he has done lots of good maps including steves and also a lot of people from this very forum..
Is it not wierd that there has only been two people to come on moaning??
cheers danny