Rikochet

Just wondered what peoples thoughts were on Cosworth replicas?

I know there are some bad ones out there but what about the ones that are done well and use genuine parts where possible? For instance a 3 door shell with bumpers, spoilers. wheels and interior but maybe a 2.0 Pinto or Zetec Turbo.

I quite fancy one as my next project because I love Cossies but can't afford to buy/run/insure a real one.

I've also seen a lot of Escos replicas which look to have been done really well but sell for sweets?

mk22door

I don't have a problem with them myself.

Just doing one at the moment, a 24v Saff, nearest I'll get to a propper one I reckon.

To those that don't like it, well, that's your problem, I don't care.

Sierra & Escort Cosworths look good when they are done right and of course when they are original, the engine, is down to what you can put up with.

Granted a 1.6 Saff Coz rep is fairly funny, but when you are young, you can maybe at a push declare the body kit and pay for it but not afford to insure a 2.0 never mind a propper yb.

I'm all for 'em

Fiddy

3dr and saff replica's tend to look better, escos replica's take a lot of time and money to get rite

mcst

Never quite got them myself. Would never quite be happy enough with one personally, always like you are "making do", if you spend a fortune on one to get it right then surely buying the real deal in the first place.

muz

I'm building an EsCos replica at the moment as I don't want to park the RS Turbo on an Army base and do loads of motorway miles in it. All the looks, but cheaper on fuel, insurance and won't be mortified getting it dirty. Although mines been built with all genuine parts to look as genuine as possible and cost slightly more than I planned I tell everyone it's not real and would never would say to anyone that it was real.

anglia105e hinson

Well I'm biased cos I have one and spent alot of time getting how it should be but with few different bits along the way , like full leather , 4x4 and few other bits and bobs

Yeah I could have gone out and bought a real one and skinted myself for years with a loan, but I didn't

In total how it is now owes me not much over £5000
Which ain't bad at all considering the price of 3 doors these days

Here are some pics

mk22door

The engine looks loverley

Rikochet

A good way to spend £5000 mate! I understand people building replicas over buying the real deal. I've never had more than a couple of grand in the bank at any one time, so I could never buy one, and I certainly couldn't afford to have 2 cars on the road plus the birds car. I'd buy a Sierra to use as my daily driver and just do bits as and when I could afford to. I'm not a saver and I do like a challenge so for me it makes sense.

RWD_cossie_wil

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Escos replicas tend to be ultra gay. Wrong dimensions, wrong wheel drive, sorry.

3 door above is all good by me, got the performance to match the looks and correct wheel drive, and it is essentially a cosworth as it has all the same underpinnings

Rsmat

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Absolutly love it mate...!!!

matts1

that 3dr is cracking, have to agree that the escos replicas always look iffy. I think the 3dr is a great way to go, but one thing that is essential imo, the work done has to be good, if it is a cheapo botch job then it will just look shite, if it is well done then people will give it the thumbs up, replics or not.

botters

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i think they are all right myself but im biased as my 3 door cossie has the rs500 exterior parts and is badged up as an rs500 so in essence is also a replica
however i am yet to see an escort cossie replica that looks right as they always tend to look to small or dont have the rear quarters that sit right against the lower spoiler

Psycho Warren

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not a fan of FWD escos replicas. Never look right and are gay as fuck. With the price of ratty escos' these days you could buy a ratty one to do up for less than a lot of replicas cost.

muz

It's the depth of the front bumper as the wheelbase is longer. The floorpan is about an inch longer on the Cosworth which is taken up by the different front wings and slimmer front bumper, that's why a replica never looks 'quite' right.Thats the only part you can't really do anything about.
The rear wing/arch bit is easy. Just use the correct rear arches.



The other thing of course is you have to have an exhaust custom made to fit through the opening as the standard exhaust sits much lower and further towards the centre of the car so they have dodgy rear bumpers with the exhaust in the wrong place.

RWD_cossie_wil

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Not being funny Muz, wouldn't you just rarther have a fantastic saff instead? Much more fun to drive, will always hold its value, and can transfer all the bits to an Escos shell at a later date if thats the way you want to go?

muz

I wouldn't want to park a real Cosworth anywhere though. This I don't care, plus I got the RST as a fun car and if I were to break that I could buy an Escort Cosworth anyway. This I can kick the arse out of everyday, eat up the motorway miles, drive in all weathers and know it will start every morning. Plus, it's got an RS2000 engine so it's quick enough for a daily. Probably owes me £2,500 all in inc the paint, using alot of genuine parts which I can sell on. I don't think that bad.

RWD_cossie_wil

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Thats cheap to be fair!

anglia105e hinson

Cheers for the good comments lads.
To anyone that might ever think of going down the 3door rep look.... Never ever get fibreglass stuff if you want it to look good!

I had everything in fibreglass and sold it all cos it doesn't fit for shit!


Muz----- that does look the part you'll have to get picks up once it's sprayed

muz

Thread can be found here. Should be in paint sometime this month.

https://passionford.com/forum/restor...nt-bumper.html

mk3cosproject

i think replicas are a good spending. juring the build you get to learn alot and have pride at the end result. rather then just buying. that plus the insurance is a major help. i dont have a cossie or a cossie rep but i do have a replica and loved every min of the build. alot would argue its a waste of money due to being nearly the price of what i wanted at the end of the build but i got to put in touchs that i wouldnt have done to the origonal car if i bought it in the first place. go for it

mk22door

Just read your full thingy thread, nice work, love it

Glenn_

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I dont mind reps as long as they are done right.

Muz your escos looks really well.

R4N SS

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Replicas Are cool if done right - I have two of them

That 3dr looks lovely on the hocks

cossiedevil

I would agree that any cossie reps apart from the escort are easier to achieve the escos need alot of time and money to make it look right,This was my rs2k 4x4 on its build using all genuine panels before it got cubed ,





Also the same as muz some replica have the full rise quarters my old 2wd rs2k.

massivewangers

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They're ok, so long as they have a bit of power to match the looks. I'd quite like a 24v 3dr/Saph rep. Not so cool if they have a 1.6 Pinto or something though

EsCos reps are far far harder mind. They require a lot of money to get right, which does make them far less viable. I think if I did it, I'd have to use proper Cossie front wings and modified wishbones to get the wheels sitting in the right place. I think you need the power to back it up too, so 200bhp really.

There have been some good ones over the years though. I suppose it might be cheaper to just buy a real one once you've put all the money in, but it's not just about that, it's about the experience of building it.

RS 5tu

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My next ford will be a cossie rep, hoping to do a 3dr rep with a saab 204/234b engine,

Best of both worlds imo will be just as quick, look the same and i wont have to sell a kidney if anything goes wrong with it

01dwilkinson

I would be quite happy to smoke about in a escos rep with zetec turbo.

Fil

you cant beat a murcielago based on an MR2

jason_nike

Although I have genuine Cossies I think it is great people do replicas as it show we all share the same interest
Nice to see the builds people do and I enjoy reading them and seeing the amount of work involved.
Good luck to all that do them, keep them coming

johnnysierra

i dont have any problem with replicas ive had 3 sierra saph reps and i nhave just got another and it will be getting used everyday and getting parked up next to my real one

Joshy

Sierra reps can look good,

If I wanted an escort though I would deffinetly go maxi arches and something hot FWD, then at least its "Drivetrain'illy" correct

david 100

I have my eye on a Ferrari replica.

cossiedevil

Just on the point of(They require a lot of money to get right, which does make them far less viable.) This is very true i had alot of new genuine parts on mine white rs2k rep from wings bonnets bumpers lights etc,i gave ford here just over €7000 on parts plus the rest and rebuilt it again 3 years in and put rear disc brakes custom avo coilovers group a alloys it was bascailly a new car and sold it 2 months later for €4000 big loss.
as it look when i sold it.never expect to make a profit when set out on doing a escos rep

KregRS

I don't mind reps, it all depends what car is being replicated and how it's been done.
I will hpefully be getting a project in the next few months, I've seen a mk4 Escort Bonus and a 2.0 GLSi Saph locally that may be available at the time. Now, I'd happily turn the Saph into a rep, but for some reason can't see the point of turning the Escort into a rep.

wulliesxr4i

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this is mine as it now has a saph cos front bumper on it to. it started life as a 1.8 chassure, now this one is gettin raped to build a 3dr


the doner car,





the rep

danneth

if there done right there ok i like rsmat's personally

boy-racer-1

i prefer 3 door sierra replicas not so much the escort cosworth replicas would rather have a rs2000 unless it was converted to 4x4 with the running gear which ive seen done on 2 but surely would soon add up to over the price of the real deal? another reason id rather have a 3 door sierra cos rep is most cosworths are geting on for 25 years old now? and allmost all have had the chav abuse over the years put back together poorly and then go bang after having them for a while and you end up puting another 3k into it rebuilding the engine gearbox and diff again, which is why ive bought all new parts to build mine from scratch as itll look the same go the same but say something different on the log book, ive prob put about 5k into parts for a rust free 3 door shell now and its almost ready for puting together another 2k and itll have a nice paintjob and cleaned up underside so around 7k for a mint rep with all new parts and a fresh paint job, not far off the going rate for a genuine cosworth that will need new parts no doubt within a year of owning it