difference between pinto and cosworth?
06-09-2011, 08:23 AM
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difference between pinto and cosworth?
Can someone please tell me what exactly the difference is between the pinto and the cossy and will I be able to convert my pinto into a cossy and more or less what will I need? Any help or advice regarding this matter will be appreciated.
06-09-2011, 08:41 AM
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Well the block you can use, but you cant long stud.
Crank is different but you could use yours if not going for big power
Rods are different
Pistons are different
Manifolds are different
Management is different
Head is different, as are cams
Thats before you get onto items like different throttle body and sensors and injectors etc
TBH the number of parts you can use from the pinto is so small it makes it a pointless exercise really.
Crank is different but you could use yours if not going for big power
Rods are different
Pistons are different
Manifolds are different
Management is different
Head is different, as are cams
Thats before you get onto items like different throttle body and sensors and injectors etc
TBH the number of parts you can use from the pinto is so small it makes it a pointless exercise really.
06-09-2011, 10:57 AM
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Pistons are low comp and have clearance for the 16 valves
rods are different too
The cheapest way to aquire all the parts you need for the conversion would be to buy a cosworth engine, and then just use your block.
Is your reason for wanting to keep your pinto that you live in a country which doesnt allow you to change the engine block, or is it that you are delusional and think its a good idea compared to just buying a complete YB?
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06-09-2011, 12:21 PM
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The similarity ends at the block, forged pistons, crank etc are just the start, the former is near enough the only thing you could use, as said it's cheaper and easier just to buy a complete YB.
Most Pintos weren't even managed, they breathed via a carb, it's only in later model's were they were EFI.
Have you thought about a turbocharging your current Pinto?
Martin
Most Pintos weren't even managed, they breathed via a carb, it's only in later model's were they were EFI.
Have you thought about a turbocharging your current Pinto?
Martin
07-09-2011, 12:16 PM
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crank is stronger on the YB
Pistons are low comp and have clearance for the 16 valves
rods are different too
The cheapest way to aquire all the parts you need for the conversion would be to buy a cosworth engine, and then just use your block.
Is your reason for wanting to keep your pinto that you live in a country which doesnt allow you to change the engine block, or is it that you are delusional and think its a good idea compared to just buying a complete YB?
Pistons are low comp and have clearance for the 16 valves
rods are different too
The cheapest way to aquire all the parts you need for the conversion would be to buy a cosworth engine, and then just use your block.
Is your reason for wanting to keep your pinto that you live in a country which doesnt allow you to change the engine block, or is it that you are delusional and think its a good idea compared to just buying a complete YB?
07-09-2011, 12:27 PM
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You can, but the block would be near enough the only part you can use. If your going to all the effort of the build and sourcing the parts (Not to mention expense!) it's easier to buy one outright!
Plus no one has mentioned a turbo which is another expensive part, management, loom etc, this is before you get to tuning the chassis and modifying the drive train/brakes/suspension etc all of which is compulsory, as the standard components won't handle the power!
Basically you would need a donor Cosworth beside it to convert a lesser model, drive shafts etc, prop shaft etc are different, the standard hardware you have will simply not handle the extra power!
The above are just a few things that spring to mind, there are so many things that are different between the two!
Can you not import an engine/car from over here?
Martin
Plus no one has mentioned a turbo which is another expensive part, management, loom etc, this is before you get to tuning the chassis and modifying the drive train/brakes/suspension etc all of which is compulsory, as the standard components won't handle the power!
Basically you would need a donor Cosworth beside it to convert a lesser model, drive shafts etc, prop shaft etc are different, the standard hardware you have will simply not handle the extra power!
The above are just a few things that spring to mind, there are so many things that are different between the two!
Can you not import an engine/car from over here?
Martin
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07-09-2011, 01:31 PM
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How much value do the quid have against the south african rand and what fright company can one use? The guys here ask about 20 000 rand to ship a engine from england. What country are you from and how much will I pay for a cosworth engine there by you?
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The similarity ends at the block, forged pistons, crank etc are just the start, the former is near enough the only thing you could use, as said it's cheaper and easier just to buy a complete YB.
Most Pintos weren't even managed, they breathed via a carb, it's only in later model's were they were EFI.
Have you thought about a turbocharging your current Pinto?
Martin
Most Pintos weren't even managed, they breathed via a carb, it's only in later model's were they were EFI.
Have you thought about a turbocharging your current Pinto?
Martin
07-09-2011, 01:43 PM
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You can, but the block would be near enough the only part you can use. If your going to all the effort of the build and sourcing the parts (Not to mention expense!) it's easier to buy one outright!
Plus no one has mentioned a turbo which is another expensive part, management, loom etc, this is before you get to tuning the chassis and modifying the drive train/brakes/suspension etc all of which is compulsory, as the standard components won't handle the power!
Basically you would need a donor Cosworth beside it to convert a lesser model, drive shafts etc, prop shaft etc are different, the standard hardware you have will simply not handle the extra power!
The above are just a few things that spring to mind, there are so many things that are different between the two!
Can you not import an engine/car from over here?
Martin
Plus no one has mentioned a turbo which is another expensive part, management, loom etc, this is before you get to tuning the chassis and modifying the drive train/brakes/suspension etc all of which is compulsory, as the standard components won't handle the power!
Basically you would need a donor Cosworth beside it to convert a lesser model, drive shafts etc, prop shaft etc are different, the standard hardware you have will simply not handle the extra power!
The above are just a few things that spring to mind, there are so many things that are different between the two!
Can you not import an engine/car from over here?
Martin
07-09-2011, 02:15 PM
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quid is a slang term for pounds, apologies!
12 rands = 1 pound
Over here a complete cosworth engine with everything including turbo and manifold etc is about 2,000 pounds I guess, although it varies depending on spec and who is selling.
So around 25,000 rand to buy the engine itself.
You'll need to check online for postage costs, I am probably being optimistic with the couple of hundred quid actually.
I just checked with one, and it came out at 750 pound (10,000 ish rand) based on 200kg and 100cm*100cm*100cm which should cover it.
http://www.pallet2ship.co.uk
12 rands = 1 pound
Over here a complete cosworth engine with everything including turbo and manifold etc is about 2,000 pounds I guess, although it varies depending on spec and who is selling.
So around 25,000 rand to buy the engine itself.
You'll need to check online for postage costs, I am probably being optimistic with the couple of hundred quid actually.
I just checked with one, and it came out at 750 pound (10,000 ish rand) based on 200kg and 100cm*100cm*100cm which should cover it.
http://www.pallet2ship.co.uk
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07-09-2011, 02:45 PM
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No a standard Cosworth is well over engineered to start with, as such it has forged pistons, steel crank etc.
Martin
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