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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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series 1 rs turbo ID for sale! been reported on the series 1 forum as well! log book says - WFOBXXGBABFB53466



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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Why whats wrong with that
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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Its not against the law,i sold my 3dr id,it,s yours to sell,

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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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lmfao we sell mk2 escort ids all the time whats ur point
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 05:33 PM
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Iv got a s1 ID that i might use 1 day, or flog sum 1, Nowt wrong with that me howd fuk em!
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 05:36 PM
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so all you people agree that a ringer is good then????
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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you would be singing another tune if some dude bought that ringing kit and robbed your rs and attatched the 2 together
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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Jeepers, surely people can see that it is encouraging people to either ...

A) take a bogo mk 3 escort and slap an S1 ID in it, bingo additional few grands worth of car for a mornings work.

B) steal someones pride and joy, slap in purchased S1 ID and bingo, free car.

I am sure 100% of people would be fuming if they bought an S1 and found out it was a 1.1l with a S1 id welded in it, or worse if they found out their Ł8k S1 minter was a ringer and promtly taken off them.
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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the mk2 ones we sell are mainly to fooked to be repaired and you take the old id off car thats having new id to the inspection job done not classed as ringing that way
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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As above, it encourages the old Jerry Springer with possibly a stolen car involved
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 06:22 PM
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I was under the impression an id could only go onto a brand new shell?
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by matts1
I was under the impression an id could only go onto a brand new shell?

DVLA have a points system to reshell a car with a new shell using your original rotted/written off car and keeping your number plate.

Points mean prizes, to keep the number plate.

But to cut out the chassis number and drill out the vin tag to put on another car that already is registered is a big no no
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mk3Stargazer
DVLA have a points system to reshell a car with a new shell using your original rotted/written off car and keeping your number plate.

Points mean prizes, to keep the number plate.

But to cut out the chassis number and drill out the vin tag to put on another car that already is registered is a big no no
yo man i could buy a new shell tommorow and reshell it into a damaged or rusty auto and would i fuck contact the dvla to see what they think,that points system is for pernickety fuckers who like aggro going down the right channels.

ringing is ringing and flogging a id from another car thats been scrapped or smashed and attatching it to another is well naughty but theres some right fuckers on here who know better and don't care about being a dodge pot
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hagler
yo man i could buy a new shell tommorow and reshell it into a damaged or rusty auto and would i fuck contact the dvla to see what they think,that points system is for pernickety fuckers who like aggro going down the right channels.

ringing is ringing and flogging a id from another car thats been scrapped or smashed and attatching it to another is well naughty but theres some right fuckers on here who know better and don't care about being a dodge pot
have to agree there where many rs 2000 old skool years ago in scouse land that got knicked and rung as ive seen many xr3is and orions poorley rung i walked away from the lot off them
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick 172 Sport
have to agree there where many rs 2000 old skool years ago in scouse land that got knicked and rung as ive seen many xr3is and orions poorley rung i walked away from the lot off them

funny you say that man i remember a mk2 rs2000 a guy who rallys bought in toxteth liverpool and he bought it with no id and then put a 1600 sport id on it. the car was advertised in the noth west automart under $500 ads section and we sorry he went to collect it and there was no car and then 4 scousers walked around the corner from god knows where with this pannled bodyshell and dropped it on the floor by the trailer.
all was well until one day someone who knew the owner of the car saw it and got the bizzys. Thats what can happen if you buy stolen rs parts or shells without knowing
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hagler
yo man i could buy a new shell tommorow and reshell it into a damaged or rusty auto and would i fuck contact the dvla to see what they think,that points system is for pernickety fuckers who like aggro going down the right channels.

ringing is ringing and flogging a id from another car thats been scrapped or smashed and attatching it to another is well naughty but theres some right fuckers on here who know better and don't care about being a dodge pot
Exactly my point, honesty pays.
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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How many mk1 and mk2 escorts,or lotus cortina,s have correct shell for tags,not many,but i dont see any body complaining,no i dont agree with ringing,but in some cases a genuine id can come in handy,say you had a stolen recovered car,on a q plate,job done ,to many ppl on here want to play the white man,

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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by STUCOS
How many mk1 and mk2 escorts,or lotus cortina,s have correct shell for tags,not many,but i dont see any body complaining,no i dont agree with ringing,but in some cases a genuine id can come in handy,say you had a stolen recovered car,on a q plate,job done ,to many ppl on here want to play the white man,

cheeRS stu

WHAAAATTT??? Are you off your meds??

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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kidsRS
Iv got a s1 ID that i might use 1 day, or flog sum 1
What's the reg?

Originally Posted by matts1
I was under the impression an id could only go onto a brand new shell?
Yes, only onto a new shell - try and find a brand new mk3 / S1 shell now though.
Maybe in the olden days you would have managed it, or with a more modern car - Focus for example but you'll struggle with mk3 (and probably mk1 or 2).

Selling an ID (VIN plate) for collector purposes if fine..but why would they want a bit of floor with the numbers in? In reality how many actually go to real collectors as opposed to someone who wants to create a "genuine" car out of something that isn't. Increasing the value of the car and the buyer potentially losing Ł000's later down the line.

Just because there are probably plenty of other examples or rung cars on wrong shells doesn't make it right or justify someone else doing it.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by STUCOS
How many mk1 and mk2 escorts,or lotus cortina,s have correct shell for tags,not many,but i dont see any body complaining,no i dont agree with ringing,but in some cases a genuine id can come in handy,say you had a stolen recovered car,on a q plate,job done ,to many ppl on here want to play the white man,

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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kidsRS
Iv got a s1 ID that i might use 1 day, or flog sum 1, Nowt wrong with that me howd fuk em!
Just wondered is the ID you have from the shell I bought off you? Just I need it. I did pm you but ya inbox must be full

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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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Don't know about any of the rest of you but I've reported it to ebay. Hopefully be taken down soon.

And for anyone that thinks it's OK to ring cars by selling the ID once its donor has been cut up, burned, squashed or whatever, go have a chat with those guys down the road in their caravans, they're more on your level than the rest of us.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by matts1
if they found out their Ł8k S1 minter was a ringer and promtly taken off them.
Happened to an old friend of mine, wasn't an Ł8k car but was a very clean car. Now on a Q plate and worth next to fuck all
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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ive got an s1, had all the floors welded in, still has chassis number in it, and thats dodgy, a complete floor with numbers,

zvh engine, so no engine number, had different reg number in the glass, but came with history for the number plate the cars on

only just found it as ive stripped it,

so what should i do with it then?
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by imnoteasy
ive got an s1, had all the floors welded in, still has chassis number in it, and thats dodgy, a complete floor with numbers,

zvh engine, so no engine number, had different reg number in the glass, but came with history for the number plate the cars on

only just found it as ive stripped it,

so what should i do with it then?
Are you saying your floors have been welded in using second hand ones?

How does the VIN plate look on the front panel?

Show signs of being drilled and refitted?
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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car was restored sometime ago, but its definatley had the floors re welded in, inc the whole floor with the number in,

at the time the car was restored, there was another that was being broke for parts
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So it looks like you got a "two for one" offer, which is great in shops, but not good when you buy a car
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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so really, i think the one ive got is a ringer, could never be proved now, but i bet im not the only one that knows there car might be dodgy, but unwilling to say
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by imnoteasy
car was restored sometime ago, but its definatley had the floors re welded in, inc the whole floor with the number in,

at the time the car was restored, there was another that was being broke for parts
got any pictures ? maybe the floor was replaced due to rust.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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what, with a complete floor inc the chassis numbers
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Happened to an old friend of mine, wasn't an Ł8k car but was a very clean car. Now on a Q plate and worth next to fuck all
could sell him a new id for it
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Originally Posted by liammcl
Just wondered is the ID you have from the shell I bought off you? Just I need one for the shell. I did pm you but ya inbox must be full
You bought a series 1 shell...

With out ID, but still with floor number in?
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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My fiesta zetec s has no vin plate. No floors numbers. Only has visible vin on dash. My mate had it years was pulled over in it when he was younger and nothing has ever come back on it. It is light blue (base model blue) yet fords computer show it leaving ford as imperial blue. He had it from when it was 2/3 years old.... Owell its white now getting zetec turbo so.even the engine numbers wont match lol.
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Originally Posted by AJC
You bought a series 1 shell...

With out ID, but still with floor number in?


No bought it as a stripped mk3 shell only. All floors had been replaced (not patched, although the sills were patched with O2 top up cards and filler ). Its was a bit of a shitter which was going to be for the track only but after the work i've done I'm now tempted to put it on the road, which at the minute is not an option the way it is.
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Happened to an old friend of mine, wasn't an Ł8k car but was a very clean car. Now on a Q plate and worth next to fuck all
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Originally Posted by STUCOS
,no i dont agree with ringing,but in some cases a genuine id can come in handy,say you had a stolen recovered car,on a q plate,job done ,to many ppl on here want to play the white man,

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WTF?!?!?!?
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WTF?!?!?!?
exactly unreal how people think its fine to make a ringer
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exactly unreal how people think its fine to make a ringer
The worrying thing is the number of people that think it's ok

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