can someone answer this question for me as its bugged me for a while now. F1 spec. Exactly what has part for a yb engine got to do with formula 1. I've just read a thread that stated 'f1 spec' springs. Are they bought from an f1 team? Are they out of an f1 car? Are they made of the same material as f1 springs? or are they just bed springs out of lewis hamiltons camper bed?? Excuse my humour but its a genuine question.

And while i'm at it, theres a chappy local to me who always goes on about his joe stevens/bluesprint motorsport engine. 'yeah yeah the guy builds f1 lumps' etc etc. The last time a checked bluesprint were not battling brawn gp for the contructors title so can someone clarify this aswell??

Cheers

 

what a cheerful thread this is going to be

 

LMAO

People love to try and add a bit of F1 credibility

 

3 pages I reckon.

 

i reckon 5 bitter pages by this time tomorrow

 

Like the Group A, WRC BTCC spec stuff you see on every other advert.

Total bollocks in most cases.

 

seriously chaps this is a genuine question lol. Dont know whether i've missed a previous thread but its somethin i've been meaning to post for a while and reading another thread has reminded me. Its just i'm a regular on the MLR and never seem to see 'f1 spec' mentioned. Now i know mitsi dont compete in F1 but last time i checked ford dont either. I'd just like to see the comparison between a 2.5ltr V8 that revs to 18k and uses cutting edge technology, to a 20year old transit engine lol. Answers ( not arguements ) please

 

as far as i'm aware bluesprint can rebuild your older f1 engines from years past and prob at some point joe has maybe been involved in building them in the first place.

 

Watch out for the 909 parts bin too....

 

the springs are made by the same company that make f1 springs wound however you want..
if joe stevens builds some f1 engines (wich he does loads) what has that got to do with him competing against brawn in f1?????

hope that helps and youl now sleep tonight???

cheers danny

 

F1 cars dont have fucking valve springs anymore, I think joe over at bluesmoke needs to start referring to them as "antique f1 spec"

 

Thats a pretty loose connection there Danny,

I am trying to think of a metaphor but am struggling, Chip over to you

Mike

 

yeah that still get used in many different formulars still...


cheers danny

 

I'm not tired yet thanks. only asking a question which it looks like you have answered. So valve springs are made by a firm who makes f1 springs. Eibach make suspenion springs for all sorts of motorsport, does that mean i can fit touring car spec springs to my evo??

My question re competing against brawn is tongue in cheek, ( you no humour lol ) what it means really is that what does/did joe do in f1 and who did he work for

 

surely they should be YB spec?

especially if being fitted in a YB?

 

hes rebuilt engines for hart,cosworth,ascari,ferrari and arrows and has had many others sent to him from abroad as there are lots of formulas using out of date f1 cars

cheers danny

 

wow!

ive got f1 spec tyres on my corsa van!

bridgestones!!



only joking

 

He must have a big box of pins to go with that lot

 

youve lost me mate????

cheers danny

 

cool, my question is now almost answered. so joe stevens re builds historic motorsport engines. does/did he build them 'for' the above names, or re builds engines that were originally made by the above names that are now privately owned?

and f1 spec springs are springs made by a company who used to make springs for f1 cars but doesnt any more as f1 doesn't use valve springs. so they make springs to 'your' spec.

thanks for your time

 

 

Nice baiting Chipolata.

I haven't seen Kev Warns engine or his brothers engines grenade themselves after running into the 10's.

 

yes,yes,yes oh yeah and yes...lol...


got you now chip lmfao

youl have a few of them mate after youve built a few more novas!!! lol

cheers danny

 

It was more a reference to old F1 technology than to Joe himself mate.

 

 

Thankyou . i will now go to sleep safe in the knowledge that f1 spec actually has nothin to do with f1 and joe stevens has about as much to do with modern f1 engines as i have to do with the nasa space program!

 

hope you slept well and you didnt have to many jealous dreams about that local guy to you having a superior engine to you built by someone capable of building f1 engines...
and has joe has built f1 engines and you havnt been with in 3000 miles of nasa id say your comment above realy sums you up!!!

^^^^^ dreamer ^^^^^^

cheers danny

 

What a strange comment, especially considering you are talking about old F1 engines that are no harder to build than a decent YB anyway in most cases.

A modern F1 engine is a totally different beast and im confident Joe wouldnt have a clue what he was doing with one just like the rest of us wouldnt.

When you start using the term "F1" it implies you are right at the forefront of modern technology, so when you actually mean you are just bolting back together an engine from 30 years ago that you have had nothing to do with the development of and are just treating like a basic mechano kit, its really giving a false impression IMHO

 

So saying F1 spec means you are talking about current F1 stuff ?

What about when people mention F1 spec turbos or wastegates ? or does not count as they obviously do not use turbocharged engines anymore ?

Not a dig, just trying to look at it from both sides

 

I can see what both of you are saying but do think it can be missleading especially saying F1-Spec springs, i mean if a guy has AP brakes on his car can he say Le Man spec brakes ? as surely teams run AP set up's in Le Man?

Mike

 

People just like to talk shit, and try and add bullshit/wow factor to things.

 

If someone says "he builds F1 engines" then to me it sounds like they are talking about something they are doing with F1 now not that he's just rebuilding old basic stuff from 30 years ago which is simpler than a civic engine to go shopping with.


If someone says an F1 turbo we all know what they mean, as it refers to such a short period in time, but when you say F1 engine it could mean anything from 1950 engines so basic any local engineering firm would have no trouble building one, just like you or I or Joe, or it could mean the engines they use now in which case its cutting edge stuff, so its just such a vague term I dont really see any point in using it, as to most people its misleading and doesnt imply building 30 year old engines that any of us could easily build anyway.

 

Nicholson Mclaren build F1 engines though and they have a excellent reputation.

None of which I may add are current

 

mark shead built my cossie lump, and will build my evo lump next year. I can assure you i am not jealous of a joe stevens engine. Anyway this is moving away from the point and my comment seems to of annoyed you which wasn't my intention. I dont see how what i said wasn't true. joe does not build modern f1 engines. Correct? And an f1 spec valve spring isnt. its a valve spring that is made by a company that used to make valve springs for f1. correct? That is all i am saying. I appologise for adding a bit of humour into my previous post.

Many Thanks

 

think ebay, then you understand "f1 spec"...

ie. complete horse shit

 

 

Most seem to view everything so black and white here.

If a valve spring is f1 spec i don't look at that and think he is running a set f1 springs in a yb, maybe i am not stupid? LOL!

 

So what do you think is actually F1 spec about it?
That it can rev to 15K without coil bind like the F1 cars? that would seem the logical to make a claim on it being the same spec to me, as that was the key part of their development? I dont view that as of any value to a YB, set of iskeys work perfectly and there is no advantage to any F1 technology being incorporated in this aspect of building a YB.

 

So basically all that needs to be put infront of anything F1 (anything in question on this thread) is "Historic"

 

The WRC spec YB engine did/does use valve springs from a Cosworth DFV.
They are also used in BD series engines, made by Schmitthelm, some of the best available.

Steve