F1 Spec????
08-12-2009, 10:39 PM
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F1 Spec????
can someone answer this question for me as its bugged me for a while now. F1 spec. Exactly what has part for a yb engine got to do with formula 1. I've just read a thread that stated 'f1 spec' springs. Are they bought from an f1 team? Are they out of an f1 car? Are they made of the same material as f1 springs? or are they just bed springs out of lewis hamiltons camper bed?? Excuse my humour but its a genuine question.
And while i'm at it, theres a chappy local to me who always goes on about his joe stevens/bluesprint motorsport engine. 'yeah yeah the guy builds f1 lumps' etc etc. The last time a checked bluesprint were not battling brawn gp for the contructors title so can someone clarify this aswell??
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And while i'm at it, theres a chappy local to me who always goes on about his joe stevens/bluesprint motorsport engine. 'yeah yeah the guy builds f1 lumps' etc etc. The last time a checked bluesprint were not battling brawn gp for the contructors title so can someone clarify this aswell??
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08-12-2009, 10:48 PM
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seriously chaps this is a genuine question lol. Dont know whether i've missed a previous thread but its somethin i've been meaning to post for a while and reading another thread has reminded me. Its just i'm a regular on the MLR and never seem to see 'f1 spec' mentioned. Now i know mitsi dont compete in F1 but last time i checked ford dont either. I'd just like to see the comparison between a 2.5ltr V8 that revs to 18k and uses cutting edge technology, to a 20year old transit engine lol. Answers ( not arguements ) please 
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08-12-2009, 10:51 PM
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08-12-2009, 10:51 PM
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can someone answer this question for me as its bugged me for a while now. F1 spec. Exactly what has part for a yb engine got to do with formula 1. I've just read a thread that stated 'f1 spec' springs. Are they bought from an f1 team? Are they out of an f1 car? Are they made of the same material as f1 springs? or are they just bed springs out of lewis hamiltons camper bed?? Excuse my humour but its a genuine question.
And while i'm at it, theres a chappy local to me who always goes on about his joe stevens/bluesprint motorsport engine. 'yeah yeah the guy builds f1 lumps' etc etc. The last time a checked bluesprint were not battling brawn gp for the contructors title so can someone clarify this aswell??
Cheers
And while i'm at it, theres a chappy local to me who always goes on about his joe stevens/bluesprint motorsport engine. 'yeah yeah the guy builds f1 lumps' etc etc. The last time a checked bluesprint were not battling brawn gp for the contructors title so can someone clarify this aswell??
Cheers
if joe stevens builds some f1 engines (wich he does loads) what has that got to do with him competing against brawn in f1?????
hope that helps and youl now sleep tonight???
cheers danny
08-12-2009, 10:57 PM
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the springs are made by the same company that make f1 springs wound however you want..
if joe stevens builds some f1 engines (wich he does loads) what has that got to do with him competing against brawn in f1?????
hope that helps and youl now sleep tonight???
cheers danny
if joe stevens builds some f1 engines (wich he does loads) what has that got to do with him competing against brawn in f1?????
hope that helps and youl now sleep tonight???
cheers danny
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08-12-2009, 10:58 PM
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the springs are made by the same company that make f1 springs wound however you want..
if joe stevens builds some f1 engines (wich he does loads) what has that got to do with him competing against brawn in f1?????
hope that helps and youl now sleep tonight???
cheers danny
if joe stevens builds some f1 engines (wich he does loads) what has that got to do with him competing against brawn in f1?????
hope that helps and youl now sleep tonight???
cheers danny
only asking a question which it looks like you have answered. So valve springs are made by a firm who makes f1 springs. Eibach make suspenion springs for all sorts of motorsport, does that mean i can fit touring car spec springs to my evo?? My question re competing against brawn is tongue in cheek, ( you no humour lol ) what it means really is that what does/did joe do in f1 and who did he work for
08-12-2009, 11:07 PM
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I'm not tired yet thanks. only asking a question which it looks like you have answered. So valve springs are made by a firm who makes f1 springs. Eibach make suspenion springs for all sorts of motorsport, does that mean i can fit touring car spec springs to my evo??
My question re competing against brawn is tongue in cheek, ( you no humour lol ) what it means really is that what does/did joe do in f1 and who did he work for
only asking a question which it looks like you have answered. So valve springs are made by a firm who makes f1 springs. Eibach make suspenion springs for all sorts of motorsport, does that mean i can fit touring car spec springs to my evo?? My question re competing against brawn is tongue in cheek, ( you no humour lol ) what it means really is that what does/did joe do in f1 and who did he work for
cheers danny
08-12-2009, 11:25 PM
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and f1 spec springs are springs made by a company who used to make springs for f1 cars but doesnt any more as f1 doesn't use valve springs. so they make springs to 'your' spec.
thanks for your time
08-12-2009, 11:31 PM
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cool, my question is now almost answered. so joe stevens re builds historic motorsport engines. does/did he build them 'for' the above names, or re builds engines that were originally made by the above names that are now privately owned?
and f1 spec springs are springs made by a company who used to make springs for f1 cars but doesnt any more as f1 doesn't use valve springs. so they make springs to 'your' spec.
thanks for your time
and f1 spec springs are springs made by a company who used to make springs for f1 cars but doesnt any more as f1 doesn't use valve springs. so they make springs to 'your' spec.
thanks for your time
got you now chip lmfao
youl have a few of them mate after youve built a few more novas!!! lol
cheers danny
08-12-2009, 11:37 PM
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. i will now go to sleep safe in the knowledge that f1 spec actually has nothin to do with f1 and joe stevens has about as much to do with modern f1 engines as i have to do with the nasa space program!
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09-12-2009, 08:23 AM
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and has joe has built f1 engines and you havnt been with in 3000 miles of nasa id say your comment above realy sums you up!!!
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09-12-2009, 08:54 AM
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A modern F1 engine is a totally different beast and im confident Joe wouldnt have a clue what he was doing with one just like the rest of us wouldnt.
When you start using the term "F1" it implies you are right at the forefront of modern technology, so when you actually mean you are just bolting back together an engine from 30 years ago that you have had nothing to do with the development of and are just treating like a basic mechano kit, its really giving a false impression IMHO
09-12-2009, 08:57 AM
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So saying F1 spec means you are talking about current F1 stuff ?
What about when people mention F1 spec turbos or wastegates ? or does not count as they obviously do not use turbocharged engines anymore ?
Not a dig, just trying to look at it from both sides
What about when people mention F1 spec turbos or wastegates ? or does not count as they obviously do not use turbocharged engines anymore ?
Not a dig, just trying to look at it from both sides
09-12-2009, 08:59 AM
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I can see what both of you are saying but do think it can be missleading especially saying F1-Spec springs, i mean if a guy has AP brakes on his car can he say Le Man spec brakes ? as surely teams run AP set up's in Le Man?
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09-12-2009, 09:08 AM
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If someone says "he builds F1 engines" then to me it sounds like they are talking about something they are doing with F1 now not that he's just rebuilding old basic stuff from 30 years ago which is simpler than a civic engine to go shopping with.
If someone says an F1 turbo we all know what they mean, as it refers to such a short period in time, but when you say F1 engine it could mean anything from 1950 engines so basic any local engineering firm would have no trouble building one, just like you or I or Joe, or it could mean the engines they use now in which case its cutting edge stuff, so its just such a vague term I dont really see any point in using it, as to most people its misleading and doesnt imply building 30 year old engines that any of us could easily build anyway.
What about when people mention F1 spec turbos or wastegates ? or does not count as they obviously do not use turbocharged engines anymore ?
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09-12-2009, 09:21 AM
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hope you slept well and you didnt have to many jealous dreams about that local guy to you having a superior engine to you built by someone capable of building f1 engines...
and has joe has built f1 engines and you havnt been with in 3000 miles of nasa id say your comment above realy sums you up!!!
^^^^^ dreamer ^^^^^^
cheers danny
and has joe has built f1 engines and you havnt been with in 3000 miles of nasa id say your comment above realy sums you up!!!
^^^^^ dreamer ^^^^^^
cheers danny
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09-12-2009, 10:57 AM
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Most seem to view everything so black and white here.
If a valve spring is f1 spec i don't look at that and think he is running a set f1 springs in a yb, maybe i am not stupid? LOL!
If a valve spring is f1 spec i don't look at that and think he is running a set f1 springs in a yb, maybe i am not stupid? LOL!
09-12-2009, 11:00 AM
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That it can rev to 15K without coil bind like the F1 cars? that would seem the logical to make a claim on it being the same spec to me, as that was the key part of their development? I dont view that as of any value to a YB, set of iskeys work perfectly and there is no advantage to any F1 technology being incorporated in this aspect of building a YB.
09-12-2009, 11:42 AM
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The WRC spec YB engine did/does use valve springs from a Cosworth DFV.
They are also used in BD series engines, made by Schmitthelm, some of the best available.
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They are also used in BD series engines, made by Schmitthelm, some of the best available.
Steve