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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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could someone please list the injectors (beige..greens..greys etc) and there bhp range....

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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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Just be aware that the bhp range as applies to a Cosworth YB, WILL NOT apply to your engine...
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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care to explain why Bill?

If this thread get's some attention from specialists I've always been interested to know why cosworth tuners run injectors so flat out. Not saying this is wrong but I remember reading how a lot of the Honda tuners in the states would say 66% duty cycle shouldn't really be exceeded.
Be interested to hear some expert opinion on this...

Been thinking about swapping the injectors in mine as it does make sense to me that if the boost ever goes over what it usually is for 440bhp the injectors won't be able to flow enough fuel so seems silly to have them on the limit. Also why I never udnerstood the gunship conversion, instead of just putting a set of greens in...
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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guide wanted for a 1.6cvh efi turbo engine..

what are beiges good from and to..thats the thing im after but for most of the usual injectors used...
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Try this link , quite a lot of bosch and weber part numbers are listed.

http://users.erols.com/srweiss/tableifc.htm

Regards Rob
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bonus_boy
guide wanted for a 1.6cvh efi turbo engine..

what are beiges good from and to..thats the thing im after but for most of the usual injectors used...
beiges are only good for upto 220 bhp and 803 greens about 280bhp on a cvh
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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what bhp can they be used from though? for example could i use greens for 220bhp? as the beiges will be nearly maxed?

want to know what bhp they can be used from aswell..

cheers though
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Dom - because the CVH isn't as 'efficient' as a YB.

The 'idea' of the gunship conversion isn't really new either - my mate was running a similar strategy on his 3dr over 15 years ago. A mid range spike is okay, as you have the time to put the fuel in, whereas when you get to the top end of the rev's, you run out of time with the smaller injector.

As for the Honda thing - US tuning ideas seem different to the UK, and different cars have different traits and foibles. Plus there's many ways to skin a cat (just remember you only get one go per cat, lol) If a method works, it works - it won't stop people arguing their way is best though....
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bonus_boy
what bhp can they be used from though? for example could i use greens for 220bhp? as the beiges will be nearly maxed?

want to know what bhp they can be used from aswell..

cheers though
i ran my greens at 230bhp for 12 months mate
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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someone look up BSFC
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To let you know mate green injectors are the wrong ohmage for EEC-IV managment. There are only certain injectors that will work with it and they have to high ohmage, Cossies are all much lower.

However you can get round this using ballast resistors I believe.

Crazycage is on afteramarket management which is why he can use greens.
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
someone look up BSFC
That's what I 'said' Gareth
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
someone look up BSFC
Yes!!

In a nut shell, the CVH requires more fuel to create the same BHP/Torque as the YB.

Brake specific fuel consumption.

JAP CRAP,

Even if you're not running your injectors flat out, they still wouldn't flow any more than what the map is set to if your boost increases for what ever reason. The only way to increase the fueling is to change the map (assuming your injector duty cycle isn't on or close to the maximum) or the fuel pressure (but that knocks your mapping out off boost making it run richer).
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i am running 300cc in mine. Well going to hehe. But i am using aftermarket management to.

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