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Old 27-12-2007 | 10:06 PM
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spoke to jano today and he doesnt supply the linkage, mounts and driveshafts required to fit the mtx75 into mk3 escort unless you let him do the full job but i dont want a £1500 bill when most of parts i can sorce cheap myself and do most of work myself, is there nobody else that does this? cheers
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this is why he charges that

its not as easy as you think, the driveshafts are custom, same as mounts ect

jano spent the time to get the conversion and make it work


bit like when you charge a job,,,,, if its a bastard you charge more

would you sell the stuff to make a job YOU put the hard graft perfecting to allow others to make it cheep

driveshafts are not just mk3 shafts, they custom made

ill back jano on this as its the only gearbox conversion that works
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im sure wul young on here has fitted a few
funny you say all that ginge....werent you trying to blue peter a hydraulic clutch before rather than pay £500 to reyland
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Originally Posted by Daviet
funny you say all that ginge....werent you trying to blue peter a hydraulic clutch before rather than pay £500 to reyland


Busted Ginge!

RST IP(sorry dont know your name), why not try and mock it up yourself and see what you need?? i am breaking a mondeo atm and have a mtx & shafts.

sure it cant be that hard with little lateral thinking?
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Originally Posted by Daviet
im sure wul young on here has fitted a few
funny you say all that ginge....werent you trying to blue peter a hydraulic clutch before rather than pay £500 to reyland








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spoke to jano today and he doesnt supply the linkage, mounts and driveshafts required to fit the mtx75 into mk3 escort unless you let him do the full job but i dont want a £1500 bill when most of parts i can sorce cheap myself and do most of work myself, is there nobody else that does this? cheers
No offence fella, but what part of the job are you going to do (Cheap) or source yourself (Cheap) if you dont know what needs to be done and you dont have the parts ?
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I think for the £1500 as well you get a new ARB and Tiebar setup, Engine Mounts, Gearbox Mounts, new Drive Shafts (not cut and welded jobs), 4 CV joints, Quick shift gear linkage, AP clutch... when you put a gearbox onto the price of this I think the fitted costs are pretty reasonable.

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I think for the £1500 as well you get a new ARB and Tiebar setup, Engine Mounts, Gearbox Mounts, new Drive Shafts (not cut and welded jobs), 4 CV joints, Quick shift gear linkage, AP clutch... when you put a gearbox onto the price of this I think the fitted costs are pretty reasonable.
if it is a paddle clutch etc im not disputing the cost, i just dont leave my car anywhere anymore after having so many attempted thefts/thefts (dont take that wrong as its not aimed at anyone). and car is esculating out of control for what the shell actually is . and other thing being as i have just bought new paddle, had flywheel skimmed, balanced etc i would need to sell these bits and my main concern would be making the gearbox fit into the car (clearing inner wing) which i can do whiles saving .how much can it cost to fabricate shafts, mount and linkage? im happy paying a fair price to justify the work done but would like to do it all myself
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Originally Posted by Ginge !

ill back jano on this as its the only gearbox conversion that works
im going for a 6 speed gertrag box with cable linkages & hydrolic clutch whitch has been proven to work on 400+ escort rs
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Originally Posted by smitsturbo
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ill back jano on this as its the only gearbox conversion that works
im going for a 6 speed gertrag box with cable linkages & hydrolic clutch whitch has been proven to work on 400+ escort rs
sonds impressive yet expensive lol
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spoke to jano today and he doesnt supply the linkage, mounts and driveshafts required to fit the mtx75 into mk3 escort unless you let him do the full job but i dont want a £1500 bill when most of parts i can sorce cheap myself and do most of work myself, is there nobody else that does this? cheers
No offence fella, but what part of the job are you going to do (Cheap) or source yourself (Cheap) if you dont know what needs to be done and you dont have the parts ?
i have brand new vibratechnics, s1 roll bar, can get flywheel and clutch so am i right in thinking id just need the custom kit that john bought from you before?
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Originally Posted by rst in progress
Originally Posted by smitsturbo
Originally Posted by Ginge !

ill back jano on this as its the only gearbox conversion that works
im going for a 6 speed gertrag box with cable linkages & hydrolic clutch whitch has been proven to work on 400+ escort rs
sonds impressive yet expensive lol
gear box, linkage & gearstick= £250
shafts £50 (need to be modified to rs turbo shafts)
modified pedal box to take hydrolic clutch
a mount welded under neath & another welded to the inner wing/chasis leg & your away
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sounds alot of work without a tig welder lol
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does sound alot of work but its the way I'll be going on mine, you get an extra peg, a nice strong box and cheap as to replace if it does go wrong and im also led to believe if need be it has greater options for increasing strength.
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Originally Posted by rst in progress
sounds alot of work without a tig welder lol
what do you need a tig welder for ?mig would be best for that
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add a quaife atb diff for £600 & get the gears shot peaned & polished for another £70
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Originally Posted by smitsturbo
shafts £50 (need to be modified to rs turbo shafts)
are these welded shafts ? or new shafts ?

not a fan of welded shafts myself as I do not believe you can ever get the fully straight or completely true at the join
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Originally Posted by Daviet
funny you say all that ginge....werent you trying to blue peter a hydraulic clutch before rather than pay £500 to reyland
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Originally Posted by Daviet
im sure wul young on here has fitted a few
funny you say all that ginge....werent you trying to blue peter a hydraulic clutch before rather than pay £500 to reyland
no i was looking into doing my own conversion, wanted to do as much as i could rather than drop the car off,, as the car was in bits and new ideas

just like other stuff i done to my car to be different

paul aint the best mechanically minded person if im honest and a MTX conversion is ALOT more than a hydraulic slave cylinder conversion,,,,, considering all you need to do is mount the master and slave and give it a feed of fluid

i "could" get the custome shafts/cv joints made for the conversion if i had the time

its the cutting of the inner wing i would be concerned with

oh and the ST gearbox idea is also a good one, forgot about that,, the box is TINY and just need a way to mount it,, dont even need to be perfectly straight as people may make out due to cv joints

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OH back then i also wanted a cossie to drive, these days i dont,,,,, i realised its not worth doing for MY application
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Originally Posted by Turbocabbie
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shafts £50 (need to be modified to rs turbo shafts)
are these welded shafts ? or new shafts ?

not a fan of welded shafts myself as I do not believe you can ever get the fully straight or completely true at the join
they havent been done yet but will be half st170 shafts & half rs turbo shafts, has already been proven ona 400+bhp escort so that'll do me
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Originally Posted by smitsturbo
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shafts £50 (need to be modified to rs turbo shafts)
are these welded shafts ? or new shafts ?

not a fan of welded shafts myself as I do not believe you can ever get the fully straight or completely true at the join
they havent been done yet but will be half st170 shafts & half rs turbo shafts, has already been proven ona 400+bhp escort so that'll do me
why not just look for a company who make drive shafts and get them to make a set the fit the cv-joints

though saying that we are finding it a bitch to find a company who make driveshafts and not recon for a decent price
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After Jano's reply why is he suddenly a banned member?
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fuck knows, tis a shame as jano even though he dont seem to gel on here ain t a bad bloke at all,,,, hes one of the FEW GENUINE fans of ERST's and not a cossie fan who works on erst's for paying bills
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Originally Posted by crazycage
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sounds alot of work without a tig welder lol
what do you need a tig welder for ?mig would be best for that
the mounts are alloy
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[quote] ginge!
paul aint the best mechanically minded person if im honest and a MTX conversion is ALOT more than a hydraulic slave cylinder conversion,,,,, considering all you need to do is mount the master and slave and give it a feed of fluid

ginge can i ask you how you know how mechanically minded i am? just because i dont have access to welders etc doesnt mean i aint mechanically minded, i can do technical stuff, using lathes etc, do my own work on my car so hows that not mechanically minded? when your not mechanically minded you pay somebody else
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Originally Posted by Smit
After Jano's reply why is he suddenly a banned member?

That is crazy why is he banned?

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who asid jano is banned?
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Originally Posted by maxrs16
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After Jano's reply why is he suddenly a banned member?

That is crazy why is he banned?

Jano was never suddenly banned,he was already banned but when the site got hacked somehow got back on,now if Jano plays by the rules he is welcome back on this site anytime which he has already been asked to do Iam sure he will be a good asset to this site and further his business but he thinks he can advertise for free,he has has several warning and been banned several times and has been asked to pay the trade fee untill he abides by the rules he stays banned
and for the record I didnt bann him the first time I banned him this time
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Originally Posted by rst in progress
who said jano is banned?
Read in his avator box!

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Originally Posted by RS Specialist
Originally Posted by maxrs16
Originally Posted by Smit
After Jano's reply why is he suddenly a banned member?

That is crazy why is he banned?

Jano was never suddenly banned,he was already banned but when the site got hacked somehow got back on,now if Jano plays by the rules he is welcome back on this site anytime which he has already been asked to do Iam sure he will be a good asset to this site and further his business but he thinks he can advertise for free,he has has several warning and been banned several times and has been asked to pay the trade fee untill he abides by the rules he stays banned
and for the record I didnt bann him the first time I banned him this time

Where has he advertised his company?
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paul aint the best mechanically minded person if im honest and a MTX conversion is ALOT more than a hydraulic slave cylinder conversion,,,,, considering all you need to do is mount the master and slave and give it a feed of fluid

ginge can i ask you how you know how mechanically minded i am? just because i dont have access to welders etc doesnt mean i aint mechanically minded, i can do technical stuff, using lathes etc, do my own work on my car so hows that not mechanically minded? when your not mechanically minded you pay somebody else
paul i understand alot more than you seem to and ive yet to phone you for infomation about cars

anyone can pick up a spanner and use a lath, work a router, drill a hole,,,, understanding what materials you use and knowing whats going to happen if you dont is the difficult part

paul i pay people to do jobs IF i want em done to a standard im not sure of

but the only car work ive EVER paied for is on my BMW,,,, and thats cause for some jobs is easier to pay a bloke and get dirty and relax in my limited free time than it is to get under a car and dirty

when you had a electrical fault with your car going EFI,,, who was the one who got the infomation and who had to explain things OVER THE PHONE about it,, considering ive NEVER done a efi conversion, id say that was quite challenge

i aint got time to argue,,,, but you may beable to hold a spanner but you CANT do the conversion without being told what parts to get and how to fit it

i couild prove it buy getting the list of parts you need from work and get you on your way,, thats cause i ahve access to LOADS of technical stuff/companys tech departments who i can use and bounce ideas off

BUT I DONT POST ON HERE SAYING I CAN DO A CONVERSION ON THE CHEEP BUT DONT KNOW WHAT PARTS I NEED

you cant even find a reason why your engines burning oil ffs without posting on here

your offering to swop a .63 housing for a .48

back in the old days where i thought i had mates i would have be MORE than willing to help people out

these days ive got no mates,, so i dont feel the need to help people out who cant help me when i need help

anyway good luck what you decide,, though remember theres alot of people out there who you may not realise but have good ideas we all ignore from time to time
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Originally Posted by RS Specialist
Originally Posted by maxrs16
Originally Posted by Smit
After Jano's reply why is he suddenly a banned member?

That is crazy why is he banned?

Jano was never suddenly banned,he was already banned but when the site got hacked somehow got back on,now if Jano plays by the rules he is welcome back on this site anytime which he has already been asked to do Iam sure he will be a good asset to this site and further his business but he thinks he can advertise for free,he has has several warning and been banned several times and has been asked to pay the trade fee untill he abides by the rules he stays banned
and for the record I didnt bann him the first time I banned him this time

Where has he advertised his company?
he didnt advertise hes company at all

he didnt post a price,,,, he defended hes side

IM DONT EVEN LIKE JANO,,,,, YET I FEEL I NEED TO DEFEND HIM
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right paul,, ill try and be nice with this reply

when you mod this car your building, when you mod the car ask yourself whats more important

A) getting the car to do the job required and be reliable and have fun with it

B) use the car and when done with it dont loose much money breaking it

if the answer is B then go for 175bhp conversion as the bigger the spec of the engine when parts break the bigger the bill to replace it

drive a car with the power, decide if thats what you want

theres a reason why i sold kam my old engine,,, AND THATS CAUSE THE CAR WILL DRIVE LIKE A PEICE OF SHITE,,,, yet a cossie felt comfortable at the samepower,,,, infact more fun

hence why ive got all the bits to finish my cabrio off,, AND more to make a 230ish bhp cabrio, yet i cant be bothered

buying second hand does save cash,though you may have to spend twice as much and do the job twice if it fails

good luck in what you decide,,,, shame ill never get to see the finished motor though as its looking good from the pics ive seen
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back in the old days where i thought i had mates i would have be MORE than willing to help people out

these days ive got no mates,, so i dont feel the need to help people out who cant help me when i need help
That makes no sense imo, are you should know why.
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ginge!
paul aint the best mechanically minded person if im honest and a MTX conversion is ALOT more than a hydraulic slave cylinder conversion,,,,, considering all you need to do is mount the master and slave and give it a feed of fluid

ginge can i ask you how you know how mechanically minded i am? just because i dont have access to welders etc doesnt mean i aint mechanically minded, i can do technical stuff, using lathes etc, do my own work on my car so hows that not mechanically minded? when your not mechanically minded you pay somebody else
paul i understand alot more than you seem to and ive yet to phone you for infomation about cars

anyone can pick up a spanner and use a lath, work a router, drill a hole,,,, understanding what materials you use and knowing whats going to happen if you dont is the difficult part

paul i pay people to do jobs IF i want em done to a standard im not sure of

but the only car work ive EVER paied for is on my BMW,,,, and thats cause for some jobs is easier to pay a bloke and get dirty and relax in my limited free time than it is to get under a car and dirty

when you had a electrical fault with your car going EFI,,, who was the one who got the infomation and who had to explain things OVER THE PHONE about it,, considering ive NEVER done a efi conversion, id say that was quite challenge

i aint got time to argue,,,, but you may beable to hold a spanner but you CANT do the conversion without being told what parts to get and how to fit it

i couild prove it buy getting the list of parts you need from work and get you on your way,, thats cause i ahve access to LOADS of technical stuff/companys tech departments who i can use and bounce ideas off

BUT I DONT POST ON HERE SAYING I CAN DO A CONVERSION ON THE CHEEP BUT DONT KNOW WHAT PARTS I NEED

you cant even find a reason why your engines burning oil ffs without posting on here

your offering to swop a .63 housing for a .48

back in the old days where i thought i had mates i would have be MORE than willing to help people out

these days ive got no mates,, so i dont feel the need to help people out who cant help me when i need help

anyway good luck what you decide,, though remember theres alot of people out there who you may not realise but have good ideas we all ignore from time to time
i offered a .48 because some people aren't always happy with how thier car drives and would like a different drive so can help me and somebody else possibly, and as for the efi conversion i asked you because you done pikeys conversion and wiring isnt my thing (of which was much appreciated and reason being i ask thing is attempting things hands on and when your not sure asking helps eliminate fuck up wich i dont want happening, but its like anything- the more you try the better you get and i enjoy doing it myself

btw what have i done to make you think i wouldn't help you out?
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
right paul,, ill try and be nice with this reply

when you mod this car your building, when you mod the car ask yourself whats more important

A) getting the car to do the job required and be reliable and have fun with it

B) use the car and when done with it dont loose much money breaking it

if the answer is B then go for 175bhp conversion as the bigger the spec of the engine when parts break the bigger the bill to replace it

drive a car with the power, decide if thats what you want

theres a reason why i sold kam my old engine,,, AND THATS CAUSE THE CAR WILL DRIVE LIKE A PEICE OF SHITE,,,, yet a cossie felt comfortable at the samepower,,,, infact more fun

hence why ive got all the bits to finish my cabrio off,, AND more to make a 230ish bhp cabrio, yet i cant be bothered

buying second hand does save cash,though you may have to spend twice as much and do the job twice if it fails

good luck in what you decide,,,, shame ill never get to see the finished motor though as its looking good from the pics ive seen
i just want it to be quick and handle quite well for what the car is, i know it will never handle great but its an escort at the end of the day and i like it, but i would love a cossie and if it wasnt for thieves id have got one. kam dont even work on his car has some parts and potential to make a great car if he pulled his finger out. btw why wont you ever see the car?
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Originally Posted by rst in progress



back in the old days where i thought i had mates i would have be MORE than willing to help people out

these days ive got no mates,, so i dont feel the need to help people out who cant help me when i need help
That makes no sense imo, are you should know why.

i CHOOSE to be like that

big group of people and little things winding me up that shouldnt,,,, decided better off moving on than being a second

dont want people as mates but a group of mates who all click

too many people and ill do anything for a mate to find others not the same

so we all move on,,,, sorry to you GENUINLY but i could see me falling out with you for the wrong reason and being MY fault

one small thing you done wound me up,,,,was nothing but i took it personal at first,,,,,, when in thought about it i was being unfair to you

better us all moving on
Old 28-12-2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rst in progress
. btw why wont you ever see the car?
i wont bother looking at it

edit as that sounds wrong

basically ill try wont be anywhere near it if i can
Old 28-12-2007 | 06:25 PM
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[quote="Ginge !"][quote="XRT_si"]
Originally Posted by Ginge !
Originally Posted by rst in progress



back in the old days where i thought i had mates i would have be MORE than willing to help people out

these days ive got no mates,, so i dont feel the need to help people out who cant help me when i need help
That makes no sense imo, are you should know why.

i CHOOSE to be like that

big group of people and little things winding me up that shouldnt,,,, decided better off moving on than being a second

dont want people as mates but a group of mates who all click

too many people and ill do anything for a mate to find others not the same

so we all move on,,,, sorry to you GENUINLY but i could see me falling out with you for the wrong reason and being MY fault

one small thing you done wound me up,,,,was nothing but i took it personal at first,,,,,, when in thought about it i was being unfair to you

better us all moving on
no point with grudges etc, if people offend you etc its always best just to say, if ive ever offended you i'd want to know as i would never have meant to, but can always talk to them people if you dont "click" with them. its nice to be able to socialise with people without feeling tension etc.


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