FAO Mike Rainbird - I have something of yours
19-04-2007, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cossymad
Don't bother posting the graph.
What ever it says or reads into, it will not be good enough.
Even if you spend more on one modification than most people on here have on their complete car, it would still not be enough.
If you try to do something for yourself, it will be wrong.
If you try something new or different it will be wrong.
(I should know, you've been telling me for years
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If you are happy with it, let it be.
I spent shed loads of cash on mine, and one barely makes over 300bhp, but comparitively more torque - I don't give a toss what others say. It's mine, and it's been built for how I want it.
What ever it says or reads into, it will not be good enough.
Even if you spend more on one modification than most people on here have on their complete car, it would still not be enough.
If you try to do something for yourself, it will be wrong.
If you try something new or different it will be wrong.
(I should know, you've been telling me for years
)If you are happy with it, let it be.
I spent shed loads of cash on mine, and one barely makes over 300bhp, but comparitively more torque - I don't give a toss what others say. It's mine, and it's been built for how I want it.
...the internet cowboys are gonna be wanting internet blood over that speech
19-04-2007, 04:17 PM
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They are an aluminium liner coated with a silicone carbide nickle sometimes ceramic i.e Yamaha.
The coating expands at the same rate as the aluminium, and therefore does not distort up the shape, as the bore will remain perfectly round. The rings will rotate about 7 times per 10,000 rpm, as the rings do this in a perfectly round bore they wear evenly. If a bore becomes egg shaped, the rings will not rotate, and will cause uneven wear.
Standard rings will cope, but the rings will not last as long
The coating expands at the same rate as the aluminium, and therefore does not distort up the shape, as the bore will remain perfectly round. The rings will rotate about 7 times per 10,000 rpm, as the rings do this in a perfectly round bore they wear evenly. If a bore becomes egg shaped, the rings will not rotate, and will cause uneven wear.
Standard rings will cope, but the rings will not last as long
19-04-2007, 05:00 PM
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Mike,
Despite what you may think, I and others are genuinely interested.
As Gareth said elsewhere, its nice to see what spec does what and your
set up isnt a run of the mill type thus making it more interesting.
Dont forget, many on here are your customers and respect what you do
with your car. You say its good then prove it. !
If the tables were turned, you would say the same
Despite what you may think, I and others are genuinely interested.
As Gareth said elsewhere, its nice to see what spec does what and your
set up isnt a run of the mill type thus making it more interesting.
Dont forget, many on here are your customers and respect what you do
with your car. You say its good then prove it. !
If the tables were turned, you would say the same
20-04-2007, 07:15 AM
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back on topic i forgot to tell you mike that the truck driver stopped off at the ford cologne plant to pick up the focus estate and a massive crowd came out to have a look at your escort
same at customs in france, they all had a good look at it apparently.
i forgot to tell you mike that the truck driver stopped off at the ford cologne plant to pick up the focus estate and a massive crowd came out to have a look at your escortsame at customs in france, they all had a good look at it apparently.
20-04-2007, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Given the spec of the engine, I hardly see it as me being tight fisted . My choice of inlet system alone cost me a cheap 2wd Cosworth . I wasn't told I would need Nikasil liners until the steel ones were found wanting 
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See, I've been found guilty by trial by internet already for doing it on the "cheap" (if ONLY that were true ), and I haven't even posted up the dyno-plot . Is there any wonder about my reticence .
. My choice of inlet system alone cost me a cheap 2wd Cosworth . I wasn't told I would need Nikasil liners until the steel ones were found wanting . See, I've been found guilty by trial by internet already for doing it on the "cheap"
(if ONLY that were true ), and I haven't even posted up the dyno-plot . Is there any wonder about my reticence .
20-04-2007, 07:28 AM
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Simon,
All the people close to me KNOW what power it made, I don't care about anyone else. In fact, I find it REALLY funny that people getting so narked about me not putting it up .
Nick,
That is REALLY cool to here - it's nice to know that the car was appreciated, although not sure if the customs interest was a good thing or not .
Benni,
If you note my smilies that I used, you will see there was no animosity in my reply, so yes I realised that .
All the people close to me KNOW what power it made, I don't care about anyone else
. In fact, I find it REALLY funny that people getting so narked about me not putting it up .Nick,
That is REALLY cool to here - it's nice to know that the car was appreciated
, although not sure if the customs interest was a good thing or not .Benni,
If you note my smilies that I used, you will see there was no animosity in my reply, so yes I realised that
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20-04-2007, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
All the people close to me KNOW what power it made, I don't care about anyone else
Not that I care, it's faster than mine!!!
20-04-2007, 07:47 AM
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Rich,
Because that is the "qualifying" boost level if I need it to dispatch the likes of the "Daves", and not the boost level the car will be run at on a regular basis. In-car, I only intend to run it at 29psi for longevity. It will only have the full 32psi if and when needed, as I really need the engine to last at least as long as my last one, as it has gone significantly over budget .
Ryan,
Yes thanks.
Chris,
I like your attitude. What did you imagine ?
Because that is the "qualifying" boost level if I need it to dispatch the likes of the "Daves"
, and not the boost level the car will be run at on a regular basis. In-car, I only intend to run it at 29psi for longevity. It will only have the full 32psi if and when needed, as I really need the engine to last at least as long as my last one, as it has gone significantly over budget .Ryan,
Yes thanks
.Chris,
I like your attitude
. What did you imagine ?
20-04-2007, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Benni,
If you note my smilies that I used, you will see there was no animosity in my reply, so yes I realised that .
If you note my smilies that I used, you will see there was no animosity in my reply, so yes I realised that
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Even on the lowest boost setting would this engine be as quick as your old one?
20-04-2007, 07:55 AM
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OMG Thanks for the PM !!!!!
Well that figure was nowhere near what I thought. I would personally post that up, but most will not beleive thay are that good !!! I respect you keeping it to yourself though, you know what people are like..."Well it would be that high, dyno figures always are....." etc etc
Well done
I still can't beleive it though....956lbft
Well that figure was nowhere near what I thought. I would personally post that up, but most will not beleive thay are that good !!! I respect you keeping it to yourself though, you know what people are like..."Well it would be that high, dyno figures always are....." etc etc
Well done
I still can't beleive it though....956lbft
20-04-2007, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MAD YUM
Still no figures then
Plus you will get to see how it handles etc. Which is more important I think?
20-04-2007, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Benni,
If you note my smilies that I used, you will see there was no animosity in my reply, so yes I realised that .
If you note my smilies that I used, you will see there was no animosity in my reply, so yes I realised that
. Even on the lowest boost setting would this engine be as quick as your old one? .
20-04-2007, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by cossymad
OMG Thanks for the PM !!!!!
Well that figure was nowhere near what I thought. I would personally post that up, but most will not beleive thay are that good !!! I respect you keeping it to yourself though, you know what people are like..."Well it would be that high, dyno figures always are....." etc etc
Well done
I still can't beleive it though....956lbft
Well that figure was nowhere near what I thought. I would personally post that up, but most will not beleive thay are that good !!! I respect you keeping it to yourself though, you know what people are like..."Well it would be that high, dyno figures always are....." etc etc
Well done
I still can't beleive it though....956lbft
Intresting
20-04-2007, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cossymad
OMG Thanks for the PM !!!!!
Well that figure was nowhere near what I thought. I would personally post that up, but most will not beleive thay are that good !!! I respect you keeping it to yourself though, you know what people are like..."Well it would be that high, dyno figures always are....." etc etc
Well done
I still can't beleive it though....956lbft
Well that figure was nowhere near what I thought. I would personally post that up, but most will not beleive thay are that good !!! I respect you keeping it to yourself though, you know what people are like..."Well it would be that high, dyno figures always are....." etc etc
Well done
I still can't beleive it though....956lbft
That was obviously on the 7.5 bar boost setting
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20-04-2007, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Benni
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Benni,
If you note my smilies that I used, you will see there was no animosity in my reply, so yes I realised that .
If you note my smilies that I used, you will see there was no animosity in my reply, so yes I realised that
. Even on the lowest boost setting would this engine be as quick as your old one? .
But now I will go back and read it. 
20-04-2007, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MAD YUM
Looking forward to the next set of dyno figures posted on PF
And what mike will have to say about them
And what mike will have to say about them
. Go and look 
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20-04-2007, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by cossymad
OMG Thanks for the PM !!!!!
Well that figure was nowhere near what I thought. I would personally post that up, but most will not beleive thay are that good !!! I respect you keeping it to yourself though, you know what people are like..."Well it would be that high, dyno figures always are....." etc etc
Well done
I still can't beleive it though....956lbft
Well that figure was nowhere near what I thought. I would personally post that up, but most will not beleive thay are that good !!! I respect you keeping it to yourself though, you know what people are like..."Well it would be that high, dyno figures always are....." etc etc
Well done
I still can't beleive it though....956lbft
That was obviously on the 7.5 bar boost setting
.
20-04-2007, 08:22 AM
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Here you all go
Now mikes power chart should hopefully look something like this, maybe even better.
Enjoy
Now mikes power chart should hopefully look something like this, maybe even better.
Enjoy
As mine starts at 3k and doesn't drop one single bhp until after 7500 and is still making 500bhp at 8500 - and that's on Optimax - you should see it on race fuel
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20-04-2007, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MAD YUM
Here you all go
Now mikes power chart should hopefully look something like this, maybe even better.
Enjoy
Now mikes power chart should hopefully look something like this, maybe even better.
Enjoy
As mine starts at 3k and doesn't drop one single bhp until after 7500 and is still making 500bhp at 8500 - and that's on Optimax - you should see it on race fuel
.The dyno day we only really got to 6500rpm but think you find that it would be lot more now as we have sorted that issue.
20-04-2007, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MAD YUM
Well thats good to hear, but the prove is in the pudding and posting some graphs would be good.
The dyno day we only really got to 6500rpm but think you find that it would be lot more now as we have sorted that issue.
The dyno day we only really got to 6500rpm but think you find that it would be lot more now as we have sorted that issue.
Anyway, hope you get it sorted Mike, always interesting reading about your car
20-04-2007, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MAD YUM
Well thats good to hear, but the prove is in the pudding and posting some graphs would be good.
The dyno day we only really got to 6500rpm but think you find that it would be lot more now as we have sorted that issue.
The dyno day we only really got to 6500rpm but think you find that it would be lot more now as we have sorted that issue.
Anyway, hope you get it sorted Mike, always interesting reading about your car
20-04-2007, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MAD YUM
Originally Posted by Escort-Ian
Originally Posted by MAD YUM
Well thats good to hear, but the prove is in the pudding and posting some graphs would be good.
The dyno day we only really got to 6500rpm but think you find that it would be lot more now as we have sorted that issue.
The dyno day we only really got to 6500rpm but think you find that it would be lot more now as we have sorted that issue.
Anyway, hope you get it sorted Mike, always interesting reading about your car
20-04-2007, 08:59 AM
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Dave,
Now I'm confused, as you say you only really got to 6500 on the dyno day, but your dyno plot clearly shows two further rpm points after this 
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But just so you're happy, your engine makes more power than mine at every single point until 7500, and then mine takes over the batton.
However, you're running SEVEN more psi than me, and on my engine, each psi is worth 22bhp, so if you reduced your boost or I increased mine, they would actually be pretty evenly matched until 7500....
Now I'm confused
, as you say you only really got to 6500 on the dyno day, but your dyno plot clearly shows two further rpm points after this .But just so you're happy, your engine makes more power than mine at every single point until 7500, and then mine takes over the batton
.However, you're running SEVEN more psi than me, and on my engine, each psi is worth 22bhp, so if you reduced your boost or I increased mine, they would actually be pretty evenly matched until 7500....
20-04-2007, 09:03 AM
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Its just nice to see the chart as a fellow cossie owner and after all the hard work that went into it..
I didnt have any problem with posting my last 2 conversion charts and think your find that mike was quick enought to post commects about temp of the cell.
Its just some banter and l only spoke to mike yesterday on the phone
I didnt have any problem with posting my last 2 conversion charts and think your find that mike was quick enought to post commects about temp of the cell.
Its just some banter and l only spoke to mike yesterday on the phone
20-04-2007, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Dave,
Now I'm confused, as you say you only really got to 6500 on the dyno day, but your dyno plot clearly shows two further rpm points after this .
But just so you're happy, your engine makes more power than mine at every single point until 7500, and then mine takes over the batton.
However, you're running SEVEN more psi than me, and on my engine, each psi is worth 22bhp, so if you reduced your boost or I increased mine, they would actually be pretty evenly matched until 7500....
Now I'm confused
, as you say you only really got to 6500 on the dyno day, but your dyno plot clearly shows two further rpm points after this .But just so you're happy, your engine makes more power than mine at every single point until 7500, and then mine takes over the batton
.However, you're running SEVEN more psi than me, and on my engine, each psi is worth 22bhp, so if you reduced your boost or I increased mine, they would actually be pretty evenly matched until 7500....
Yes mike your correct and yes there was 2 futher rpm points. But the Ecu did see anymore than 6500 and we thought it was a coil issue, Since installing engine into the car we found that it was a issue that could have been sorted on the day.
And as you see on my chart there was nothing after 6500rpm
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