General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

Problems with new Cossie......HELP

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 06:39 PM
  #1  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default Problems with new Cossie......HELP

...changed the lifters to day and found on the front 2 allen key bolts that hold the first cap on with the oil seal (camshafts) came out with helicoils on them...then noted some cam caps just spun and couldnt put up to ft/lb....they just span..so wound the studs out to find helicoils coming out too ...OBVIOUSLY in the past the nuts and allen key bolts where not torqued down and just put on over tight causing the need for the helicoils ...the 13mm nuts are 20ft/lb and the front bolts are 10ft/lb MAX...hardly anything...

So what can i do i NEED to get it running for Monday..is rehelicoiling ok..and where can i get a kit from???...need about 4 studs to go back in and 1 allen bolt.

ANYONE HELP??????
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 06:57 PM
  #2  
Basky's Avatar
Basky
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,637
Likes: 0
From: stufFORDshire
Default

could get you the helicoils phil but it wont be until monday
but i would of thought it to be ok to recoil them if the threads are ok
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:12 PM
  #3  
dave cos4x4's Avatar
dave cos4x4
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 26,872
Likes: 30
From: Liverpool
Default

should be abe to re-helicoil them.

Stop fooking messing with it,you've broken it now.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:25 PM
  #4  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

..where can i can helicoil kit TOMMORROW in the Kent area??????
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:29 PM
  #5  
L33 BYT's Avatar
L33 BYT
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,482
Likes: 0
From: SUFFOLK
Default

Most proper hardware stores should do them.

Some of the better autofactors may do them to.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:30 PM
  #6  
jon@work's Avatar
jon@work
Advanced PassionFord User
20 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,400
Likes: 8
From: Nottingham
Default

Be careful Phil when you do put it back together - shouldn't those torque figures be Nm, not lbft - ie 10 and 20lbft are too tight ? (Ihaven't got my manual in front of me so would be worth checking)
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:32 PM
  #7  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

Jon no thats the converted value from NM

...would B&Q do this kit?
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:39 PM
  #8  
jon@work's Avatar
jon@work
Advanced PassionFord User
20 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,400
Likes: 8
From: Nottingham
Default

I doubt B+Q will do them

your problem is is that the helicoil kits are about Ł20-25 each - 2 sizes are required, so it's gonna be expensive unless you can find someone with the appropriate sizes that you can borrow the kits off (like me but I'm in Nottingham)
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:45 PM
  #9  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

...halfords????


...ANYONE in kent?




Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:50 PM
  #10  
Eagle's Avatar
Eagle
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 18,610
Likes: 4
From: somwhere in wow
Default

why can you not re-use the helicoils that came out????
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 07:52 PM
  #11  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by Eagle
why can you not re-use the helicoils that came out????

...they broke up!
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:03 PM
  #12  
Ex-Finesse's Avatar
Ex-Finesse
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 456
Likes: 0
From: Medway / Maidstone, Kent
Default

Asked my Dad if we have any of these at his business, as it's mechanical & vehicle based, plus we're in Kent.

Unfortunately don't have any, sorry.

How about a garage? They may have some in stock if this happens to them?
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:05 PM
  #13  
Eagle's Avatar
Eagle
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 18,610
Likes: 4
From: somwhere in wow
Default

Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by Eagle
why can you not re-use the helicoils that came out????

...they broke up!
bugger
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:11 PM
  #14  
Rolls's Avatar
Rolls
PassionFord Post Troll
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,429
Likes: 0
Default

Its very unlikely halfrauds do them mate.... - unless they've changed a lot since i left a year and a half ago.... - may be worth giving the biggest store near you a call though...
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:39 PM
  #15  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

...anywhere else?
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:41 PM
  #16  
Rolls's Avatar
Rolls
PassionFord Post Troll
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,429
Likes: 0
Default

would machine mart do them?- may be open?
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:59 PM
  #17  
DazC's Avatar
DazC
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 12,748
Likes: 0
From: Lancashire
Default

If they broke up, it's very unlikely that what came out was a helicoil as it would have been steel and quite hard.

It's more than likely the remains of the aluminium thread from the head.

I doubt you will find somewhere tomorrow to be honest Phil. Try Machine Mart and the usual Halfords and other accessory shops. You may get lucky.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 09:20 PM
  #18  
Alvyn's Avatar
Alvyn
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,076
Likes: 0
From: Essex
Default

got mine from Machine Mart abit a yr or so ago!
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 09:23 PM
  #19  
GARETH T's Avatar
GARETH T
Professional Waffler
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 9
From: barry-south wales
Default

Originally Posted by DazC
If they broke up, it's very unlikely that what came out was a helicoil as it would have been steel and quite hard.

It's more than likely the remains of the aluminium thread from the head.

I doubt you will find somewhere tomorrow to be honest Phil. Try Machine Mart and the usual Halfords and other accessory shops. You may get lucky.
i agree
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 09:35 PM
  #21  
Andreas's Avatar
Andreas
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,551
Likes: 0
Default

Had mine helicoiled and it lasted a few months.

Replaced it with bigger bolts and its been fine for seven years.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 09:46 PM
  #22  
GARETH T's Avatar
GARETH T
Professional Waffler
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 9
From: barry-south wales
Default

Originally Posted by Andreas
Had mine helicoiled and it lasted a few months.

Replaced it with bigger bolts and its been fine for seven years.
helicoils if fitted right should last a lifetime

they dont like being wound in and out though
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 09:50 PM
  #23  
Franco's Avatar
Franco
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 11,383
Likes: 0
From: UK
Default

You must have a motorfactors near you Phil, they'll do!

Ps had to helicoil min today
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
DAZZER
Ford Escort RS Turbo
5
Sep 30, 2015 08:43 PM
DavidK
Ford Sierra/Sapphire/RS500 Cosworth
1
Sep 27, 2015 02:55 PM
Russ Payne
Ford Sierra/Sapphire/RS500 Cosworth
1
Sep 25, 2015 08:29 PM
Shaunc
Escort Range
4
Sep 23, 2015 06:00 AM




All times are GMT. The time now is 05:23 PM.