T66 power - super unleaded / solid lifters
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
nowt wrong with T4's!
have mine coming in quicker than a t38 on standard compression now![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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have mine coming in quicker than a t38 on standard compression now
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have already discussed as much with alan...
reackon the engine would have to come to pieces again for anymore power.
upgradeds needed on oil system and cooling issues.
car is in for exhaust now and hoping to see 430-440 ATW.
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reackon the engine would have to come to pieces again for anymore power.
upgradeds needed on oil system and cooling issues.
car is in for exhaust now and hoping to see 430-440 ATW.
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Mike
Is this car going to run at events like the Daddy Thrash on soon, or is it just a Talker so that every one can discuss how fast it might be.
Get it to Brunters & run against the MAD offerings, or is that as I suspect not going to happen. Remember where the Bullshit stops Mike, thats what you used to say to me.
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The guy without a doubt has a powerful car but does that automatically mean that he is duty bound to prove it against a MAD offering and if not it's bullshit? Get a grip man... you are possessed
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p.s. If the figures are low does that mean Harveys dyno under reads?
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by CossieRich
Mike,
is that answering my question or someone elses, because it doesnt seem to relate to anything i asked![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
is that answering my question or someone elses, because it doesnt seem to relate to anything i asked
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Same way that you get different readings on chassis dynos, if the settings are not identical in the computer, then you get different readings - simple as
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I think if you put Mark's engines on Harvey's dyno, they would produce less torque than on Simon's and vice-versa. Please note, this is in no way a diss, it's just that unless you run IDENTICAL programs, there WILL be some differences in the read-outs
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Originally Posted by Dannn
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by CossieRich
Mike,
is that answering my question or someone elses, because it doesnt seem to relate to anything i asked![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
is that answering my question or someone elses, because it doesnt seem to relate to anything i asked
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Same way that you get different readings on chassis dynos, if the settings are not identical in the computer, then you get different readings - simple as
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I think if you put Mark's engines on Harvey's dyno, they would produce less torque than on Simon's and vice-versa. Please note, this is in no way a diss, it's just that unless you run IDENTICAL programs, there WILL be some differences in the read-outs
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Originally Posted by madevelopments
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
nowt wrong with T4's!
have mine coming in quicker than a t38 on standard compression now![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
have mine coming in quicker than a t38 on standard compression now
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Mark
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you did 200 odd rod
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now ffs let it go man
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by CossieRich
Mike,
is that answering my question or someone elses, because it doesnt seem to relate to anything i asked![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
is that answering my question or someone elses, because it doesnt seem to relate to anything i asked
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Same way that you get different readings on chassis dynos, if the settings are not identical in the computer, then you get different readings - simple as
![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
I think if you put Mark's engines on Harvey's dyno, they would produce less torque than on Simon's and vice-versa. Please note, this is in no way a diss, it's just that unless you run IDENTICAL programs, there WILL be some differences in the read-outs
![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
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It doesnt matter what dyno that engine goes on. T66 turbo 2.3 bar and 600 bhp, you should sail past 500 lb/ft. For sure there will be different read-outs at each dyno, but while this engine has the horses it doesnt make the torque
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Originally Posted by adamski frst
and heres me gonna be happy with a MAD 350bhp
maybe i should be looking into gaining another 200bhp ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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Harvey lad against a MADette homo!
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by MADRod
Mike
Is this car going to run at events like the Daddy Thrash on soon, or is it just a Talker so that every one can discuss how fast it might be.
Get it to Brunters & run against the MAD offerings, or is that as I suspect not going to happen. Remember where the Bullshit stops Mike, thats what you used to say to me.
Rod
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The guy without a doubt has a powerful car but does that automatically mean that he is duty bound to prove it against a MAD offering and if not it's bullshit? Get a grip man... you are possessed
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Martoon.
p.s. If the figures are low does that mean Harveys dyno under reads?
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I can't believe the shit that gets posted on here
Mike stuck up the dyno sheets and pics of Tonys car and new engine for people that are interested and the knob jockeys jump on the band wagon
If you ain't got nothing good to say well then dont bother saying it
Rod,
you really need to get a grip!!
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Mike stuck up the dyno sheets and pics of Tonys car and new engine for people that are interested and the knob jockeys jump on the band wagon
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Rod,
you really need to get a grip!!
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Originally Posted by justin.e
I can't believe the shit that gets posted on here
Mike stuck up the dyno sheets and pics of Tonys car and new engine for people that are interested and the knob jockeys jump on the band wagon
If you ain't got nothing good to say well then dont bother saying it
Rod,
you really need to get a grip!!
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Mike stuck up the dyno sheets and pics of Tonys car and new engine for people that are interested and the knob jockeys jump on the band wagon
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Rod,
you really need to get a grip!!
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Originally Posted by justin.e
I can't believe the shit that gets posted on here
Mike stuck up the dyno sheets and pics of Tonys car and new engine for people that are interested and the knob jockeys jump on the band wagon
If you ain't got nothing good to say well then dont bother saying it
Rod,
you really need to get a grip!!
![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
![Wall](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/wall.gif)
Mike stuck up the dyno sheets and pics of Tonys car and new engine for people that are interested and the knob jockeys jump on the band wagon
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Rod,
you really need to get a grip!!
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Originally Posted by Phil
Originally Posted by CossieRich
Originally Posted by justin.e
I can't believe the shit that gets posted on here
Mike stuck up the dyno sheets and pics of Tonys car and new engine for people that are interested and the knob jockeys jump on the band wagon
If you ain't got nothing good to say well then dont bother saying it
Rod,
you really need to get a grip!!
![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
![Wall](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/wall.gif)
Mike stuck up the dyno sheets and pics of Tonys car and new engine for people that are interested and the knob jockeys jump on the band wagon
![Rolling Eyes](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
![Wall](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/wall.gif)
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Rod,
you really need to get a grip!!
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I meant no offence by my post, and was not meant as a diss
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However, it is a simple fact that if the dynos don't have the same settings, then they will read differently.
If you want to be open about it, why not get Simon to tell you the settings he uses, and then post them up
.
The offer is also open for you to bring one of your engines to Harvey's for a comparison figure, hopefully this winter will be cold enough
.
Please don't turn this into a slanging match, as that was not my intention
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As to your comments Phil, as far as I am concerned, that was way out of order and you have shown your true colours to me.
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However, it is a simple fact that if the dynos don't have the same settings, then they will read differently.
If you want to be open about it, why not get Simon to tell you the settings he uses, and then post them up
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The offer is also open for you to bring one of your engines to Harvey's for a comparison figure, hopefully this winter will be cold enough
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Please don't turn this into a slanging match, as that was not my intention
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As to your comments Phil, as far as I am concerned, that was way out of order and you have shown your true colours to me.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I meant no offence by my post, and was not meant as a diss
.
However, it is a simple fact that if the dynos don't have the same settings, then they will read differently.
If you want to be open about it, why not get Simon to tell you the settings he uses, and then post them up
.
The offer is also open for you to bring one of your engines to Harvey's for a comparison figure, hopefully this winter will be cold enough
.
Please don't turn this into a slanging match, as that was not my intention
.
As to your comments Phil, as far as I am concerned, that was way out of order and you have shown your true colours to me.
![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
However, it is a simple fact that if the dynos don't have the same settings, then they will read differently.
If you want to be open about it, why not get Simon to tell you the settings he uses, and then post them up
![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
The offer is also open for you to bring one of your engines to Harvey's for a comparison figure, hopefully this winter will be cold enough
![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Please don't turn this into a slanging match, as that was not my intention
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As to your comments Phil, as far as I am concerned, that was way out of order and you have shown your true colours to me.
Without trying to turn this into a war with the likes of Phil (not boschman) thinking they know what they are talking about, if that engine was to make say 50 lb/ft toruque more on antoher dyno which figure is actually a true representation of that engine? I know its hypothetical as the engine is in the car now and wont be on another dyno, but still you get the jist?
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the pics etc were posted on the board so people can have a look at a different project.Iam sure most people have never seen this car before?!
I think it would be much less hastle just to let people read about these cars in the mags
I think it would be much less hastle just to let people read about these cars in the mags
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Originally Posted by justin.e
the pics etc were posted on the board so people can have a look at a different project.Iam sure most people have never seen this car before?!
I think it would be much less hastle just to let people read about these cars in the mags![Rolling Eyes](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
I think it would be much less hastle just to let people read about these cars in the mags
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As to your comments Phil, as far as I am concerned, that was way out of order and you have shown your true colours to me.
Mike learn to be able to take critisism...you give it out enuff..especially to me!...Nothing wrong in what i said...i just forgot the
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Originally Posted by justin.e
so Mark having a go at me because I choose to run a t4 with webber has anthing to do with healthy conversation
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just out of interest as Iam trying to understand what Mike has posted,Mark could you put up Yum's dyno sheet(if he doesnt mind)with the dyno cell temps please??
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Originally Posted by justin.e
just out of interest as Iam trying to understand what Mike has posted,Mark could you put up Yum's dyno sheet(if he doesnt mind)with the dyno cell temps please??
Page 2 of this thread are the graphs:
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Originally Posted by Franco
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by MADRod
Mike
Is this car going to run at events like the Daddy Thrash on soon, or is it just a Talker so that every one can discuss how fast it might be.
Get it to Brunters & run against the MAD offerings, or is that as I suspect not going to happen. Remember where the Bullshit stops Mike, thats what you used to say to me.
Rod
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The guy without a doubt has a powerful car but does that automatically mean that he is duty bound to prove it against a MAD offering and if not it's bullshit? Get a grip man... you are possessed
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Martoon.
p.s. If the figures are low does that mean Harveys dyno under reads?
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I thought I was the only one thinking that there
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Originally Posted by Mr Brannen
Originally Posted by Franco
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by MADRod
Mike
Is this car going to run at events like the Daddy Thrash on soon, or is it just a Talker so that every one can discuss how fast it might be.
Get it to Brunters & run against the MAD offerings, or is that as I suspect not going to happen. Remember where the Bullshit stops Mike, thats what you used to say to me.
Rod
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The guy without a doubt has a powerful car but does that automatically mean that he is duty bound to prove it against a MAD offering and if not it's bullshit? Get a grip man... you are possessed
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Martoon.
p.s. If the figures are low does that mean Harveys dyno under reads?
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I thought I was the only one thinking that there
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CossieRich,
in order to see what way the figure has been corrected you need two pieces of info the first is barametric pressure and the other is the dyno cell temp.The dyno cell temp is not shown on the dyno sheets that you have given the link for thats why I was asking Mark for them or if Dave has them???tnx
in order to see what way the figure has been corrected you need two pieces of info the first is barametric pressure and the other is the dyno cell temp.The dyno cell temp is not shown on the dyno sheets that you have given the link for thats why I was asking Mark for them or if Dave has them???tnx
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
As to your comments Phil, as far as I am concerned, that was way out of order and you have shown your true colours to me.
Mike learn to be able to take critisism...you give it out enuff..especially to me!...Nothing wrong in what i said...i just forgot the
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Porkie for a so called mature man you dont alf act childish with these constant snipes which i will just return elsewhere..so do yourself a favour and STFU....i made my feelings to you yesterday clear but you were too babyish to reply...the olive branch has been permanately severed.
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Originally Posted by justin.e
CossieRich,
in order to see what way the figure has been corrected you need two pieces of info the first is barametric pressure and the other is the dyno cell temp.The dyno cell temp is not shown on the dyno sheets that you have given the link for thats why I was asking Mark for them or if Dave has them???tnx
in order to see what way the figure has been corrected you need two pieces of info the first is barametric pressure and the other is the dyno cell temp.The dyno cell temp is not shown on the dyno sheets that you have given the link for thats why I was asking Mark for them or if Dave has them???tnx
Cell temps, Now l did think we took a record of this will check this out
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why do people here start a war of "i know better...im much cooler"....bullshit drama......
every engine builder has his own ways and means to make a strong engine, its like a piece of art.....for all of you that dont like one of the builders, go to someone else and stop slagging people off...
and for those who are known to be the most unreliable people (yes simon, that would be you) STFU, you are wasting webspace.
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p.s. i made my choice and its harvey for the build and mike r for parts and im happy bout it
every engine builder has his own ways and means to make a strong engine, its like a piece of art.....for all of you that dont like one of the builders, go to someone else and stop slagging people off...
and for those who are known to be the most unreliable people (yes simon, that would be you) STFU, you are wasting webspace.
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p.s. i made my choice and its harvey for the build and mike r for parts and im happy bout it
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Cell temps give the correction factor, so should really be shown on the sheet. With artificially high temps (due to a possibly wrongly positioned sensor), it can give excessively high torque figures due to the correction factor
.
This is NOT a dig at Simon or Mark, it is a factual comment. Harvey went all through this when he was developing his dyno cell at his first premises and it took a while before he got everything set up as it should be, purely because when he installed his dyno originally, it was all new to him as well.
I could have INSTANTLY bumped up the torque figures of this T66 engine, by manually over-riding the dyno cell sensor and just changing the cell temperatures to a fictionally high amount (the computer would have then increased the power / torque readings for temperature correction). I could then remove the temps from the sheet (as you can choose what parameters to display - as can be seen from what Yum's is showing) and then posted these up instead
.
This would then have appeased the people screaming at the low torque figures, but would not have been an accurate representation
.
I even know of one dyno operator who deliberately mounts the sensor close to the engine, to pick up the heat from this, so that it is always giving a high out-put (23°C in January
).
However, when you see a T34 making 450lbft of torque, you know something is amiss
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And just so that people know, if Harvey gave up Cossies tomorrow or was run-over or something similar (God forbid
), then it would be a toss-up between Mark and Martin who got my work - THAT is how highly I think of Mark
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This is NOT a dig at Simon or Mark, it is a factual comment. Harvey went all through this when he was developing his dyno cell at his first premises and it took a while before he got everything set up as it should be, purely because when he installed his dyno originally, it was all new to him as well.
I could have INSTANTLY bumped up the torque figures of this T66 engine, by manually over-riding the dyno cell sensor and just changing the cell temperatures to a fictionally high amount (the computer would have then increased the power / torque readings for temperature correction). I could then remove the temps from the sheet (as you can choose what parameters to display - as can be seen from what Yum's is showing) and then posted these up instead
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This would then have appeased the people screaming at the low torque figures, but would not have been an accurate representation
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I even know of one dyno operator who deliberately mounts the sensor close to the engine, to pick up the heat from this, so that it is always giving a high out-put (23°C in January
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However, when you see a T34 making 450lbft of torque, you know something is amiss
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And just so that people know, if Harvey gave up Cossies tomorrow or was run-over or something similar (God forbid
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