BRIGSPORT

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If you say so!

ECU Monitor Enthusiast

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BRIGSPORT,

As you are in the cooling business....

You dont know where I can get a 20 kw cooling capacity process chiller
with built in water tank and pump from - cheap ?

BRIGSPORT

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I don't think anything of 20kw capacity is cheap! By process chiller i assume you mean glycol? I have only dealt in air conditioning for the last couple of years,but if you let me know your requirements,i can ask about for you.
Also,the non starting cossie you advised me on,turned out to have a duff green relay. The car had been unused and garaged for 10 yrs because of this fault,and the car had 99,000 miles but was absolutely spotless. the cunt never thanked me by way of a drive once it was fixed though!

ECU Monitor Enthusiast

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BRIGSPORT,

I have been quoted Ł3K+ second hand which seems to be the going rate.
Luckily others are buying it, I just specified the requirements.
Will probally order it tomorrow as its needed desperately.
Its for a laser in a night club (its a very big laser) !

Glad you got the car sorted, some people are just damn ungratefull :

BRIGSPORT

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Unfortunately the sort of chiller you are looking at is industrial,and as such when it comes up for sale is in great demand,due to the high cost of new units.
But if someone else is paying,then who gives a fuck!?

GARETH T

20kw of water cooling is big,,,, just hook the cooling up to a stand pipe (see lees thread) and let the water go to drain

NEEDFORSPEED

that looks amazing . . .

Stu.H

Good ol' passionford bringing posts BTTT

Benni

I've just spat Mars Bar everywhere and now I'm dribbling...

Dear god!

pa_sjo

That was quite funny Benni......


I just re-read this whole thread again (who can I claim some life back from?).. One thing I will say is that i've seen some video clips of Simon Norris' engine dyno and he appears to have an interesting method of usage.. eg, hold the engine at 7k, then quickly whack the throttle open to hit the superflow set rpm limit, torque instantly spikes and he hits the record button.. Now Harvey will run his engines for 10+ seconds at any given load site before hitting the record button so the engine can stabilise for an accurate reading..

This may not be accurate, but i'm only going by the couple of short vids i've seen of the Norris dyno in action

Mike Rainbird

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Prepare for an MAD lynching .

CossieRich

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ahh yes. all we need now is the 3 famous letters TUV and all systems go on PF Isnt that right Mike

Franco

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The man in the sunny's says:

Martin-Hadland

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That's our German workshop..

Franco

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I made a secret visit before deciding who'd be building my engine!

Shame I had to go with these arse bandits!:



Spent 5 days trying to get up each other!

Mark Shead

What planet are you on?
You have to hold the engine on full throttle while the superflow gets to a stable hold on the engine then you take a power reading, this normaly happens after X period of time and then record at 40c inlet temp,
Also post the videos you have seen that show this so we all can look.

Mark

AlexF

wft has happened to this thread

CossieRich

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Mark,

thsi place is full of experts. Didnt you know that?

cozmeister

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I think you could have a word with Roosie on here about some sort of claim for trauma

pa_sjo

I'm on planet 'how to use a superflow dyno correctly' (not that i'm saying you're not, of course!).. As I said, the videos i've seen of the SR dyno in operation were not as you describe (note, I didn't say it was one of your engines in the videos). Coincidentally, the videos appear to have gone from youtube (admittedly it was ages ago I saw them!).

I have no interest in either party, it's just my own observations, of which I am free to comment on

MikeR

This has been dug up from the past,

Mark make sure you are taking good care of that car !!

Mike

Martin-Hadland

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Actually that's true, a lot of folk on this site can provide invaluable info and experience.

CossieRich

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such as:

TUV approved dyno's
Telling Mark how a superflow engine dyno should be used
Cell correction temps
Accusastions of MAD figures being un-true

yes i can see how this place is full of invaluable info and experience Martin

Martin-Hadland

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Sorry Rich but most of the above is true... Not sure about the last one though.

NEEDFORSPEED

as much as i respect the people posting and however much theyve helped me out this threads gone tits up/far beyond the first actual meaning of it - an awsome performing/looking engine . . . .

pa_sjo

Et voila.. http://www.norrisdesigns.com/videos/900+bhp-2.wmv

Mark Shead

I think you need to look at others using a dyno as that is no diff that a normal check mapping run, If you look at the last part of the vid he is checking fueling and saying its lean, at 928hp you wouldnt be holding it there long either.

Mark

foreigneRS

just playing devil's advocate here, but surely you can map an engine slightly leaner than what would be safe to hold flat out for any length of time and run it quickly on the dyno to give a higher power readout - as pa_sjo is sugesting?

Mark Shead

With over 400hp per lt you have to be carefull doing anything and the engines are mapped quite rich anyway on the dyno at this power level.

Mark

foreigneRS

is that answering my question mark? of course it's massive power output, and great care must be taken. but surely it must be able to run on an engine dyno under controlled conditions if it is to be run in a car?

Mark Shead

What are you actaully asking?,
All my engines are mapped for what they would run in the car and held flat out, And when I have mapped a couple of engines for Simon he tells me how he wants it mapped and I do so, BTW its the same way I map my engines ie fueling and advance away from dett.

Mark

foreigneRS

not saying that it happens on your engines, but is it possible to get a higher peak power output shown on the engine dyno by using an AFR that is not quite as rich as you would want to run in the car?

i'm pretty sure that it is, although as you say it's very risky to do so - hence it's only done very briefly

Mark Shead

You can run them leaner but they wont make much more power so its not worth the risk.

Mark

foreigneRS

thanks mark, that's the answer that i was looking for

so if an engine is mapped and safe for a top speed run, it could be held for a period of time at a series of stabilised rpm points to accurately measure the power?

obviously doing so is using some of the life of the engine, so that is a reason for not doing so