T66 power - super unleaded / solid lifters
27-10-2006, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Will 85
Crikey - seems a bit high for a T66 
We'd normally say about 550bhp out of a T66 - fair play if it's genuine tho...
We'd normally say about 550bhp out of a T66 - fair play if it's genuine tho...
27-10-2006, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by MAD YUM
Justin
What l ment to rich's reply about it accelerates rapido is
Thought it should have alot more torque!!!, that plays a big facter in accelerating. My old engine had 470BHP and 430 torque and rich went out in that. With only a little more torque it wont feel much faster
Hope that clears that up
What l ment to rich's reply about it accelerates rapido is
Thought it should have alot more torque!!!, that plays a big facter in accelerating. My old engine had 470BHP and 430 torque and rich went out in that. With only a little more torque it wont feel much faster
Hope that clears that up
Might not FEEL much faster in gear, but will hang onto each gear for longer and be quicker in reality.
If you both had similar torque, but he is in a gear lower at a given speed, he is going to leave you standing.
with correct use of gears its BHP and NOT torque that determines the acceleration of a car.
That last statement was mine
Couldent be more correct tho
28-10-2006, 09:23 PM
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This a great thread getting nowhere, lots of talking. Torque makes your car quick, No !! Power makes the car quick. Well lads its Datron that makes mine quick, cos I dont have a Graph to talk or crow about.
My new engine will be Dynoed but I would certainly not Put the Graph on here, will take car to Woodbridge run 215 & thats my figures proved. EASY!!
My new engine will be Dynoed but I would certainly not Put the Graph on here, will take car to Woodbridge run 215 & thats my figures proved. EASY!!
28-10-2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
This a great thread getting nowhere, lots of talking. Torque makes your car quick, No !! Power makes the car quick. Well lads its Datron that makes mine quick, cos I dont have a Graph to talk or crow about.
My new engine will be Dynoed but I would certainly not Put the Graph on here, will take car to Woodbridge run 215 & thats my figures proved. EASY!!
My new engine will be Dynoed but I would certainly not Put the Graph on here, will take car to Woodbridge run 215 & thats my figures proved. EASY!!
Rod your have to post the graph, Then they are can talk about how fause it is
30-10-2006, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Will 85
Crikey - seems a bit high for a T66
We'd normally say about 550bhp out of a T66 - fair play if it's genuine tho...
We'd normally say about 550bhp out of a T66 - fair play if it's genuine tho...
. It actually made 666bhp with race fuel . But as has been said, once in the car, you need to subtract around 30bhp for when all the ancilliaries are bolted on (alternator, water pump, power-steering etc ).
30-10-2006, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Big Will 85
Crikey - seems a bit high for a T66
We'd normally say about 550bhp out of a T66 - fair play if it's genuine tho...
We'd normally say about 550bhp out of a T66 - fair play if it's genuine tho...
. It actually made 666bhp with race fuel . But as has been said, once in the car, you need to subtract around 30bhp for when all the ancilliaries are bolted on (alternator, water pump, power-steering etc ).only i noticed on doug stirlings dyno print from harveys it was at 12.4-12.6 under full load, and i dont believe for one second it was anywhere near that when in the car, i bet it was at least half a point richer, probably more.
Is it for this reason, that the AFR in this printout is zero, so that no one can see its not really running what it will be when its installed, or is that part of the machine just broken at the moment?
30-10-2006, 08:27 AM
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Chip,
It has been tested flat out at Brunters and no fuel needed to be added or removed. However, the gearing plays a big part in this, it is on 1:1 final drive, so 175mph is all that it has (at 8500rpm).
I can't remember what the AFR was off the top of my head, but I understand it was still in the 12s.
It has been tested flat out at Brunters and no fuel needed to be added or removed
. However, the gearing plays a big part in this, it is on 1:1 final drive, so 175mph is all that it has (at 8500rpm).I can't remember what the AFR was off the top of my head, but I understand it was still in the 12s
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30-10-2006, 08:29 AM
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Thats cool then mike.
So how come no AFR is on the graph, is that you/harvey being secretive for some reason, or is it an equipment fault?
In the 12s presumalbey means that its going to lose a LOT of the power on normal fuel, as you will have to richen it up as well as take timing out.
do you have a dyno sheet on 98?
So how come no AFR is on the graph, is that you/harvey being secretive for some reason, or is it an equipment fault?
In the 12s presumalbey means that its going to lose a LOT of the power on normal fuel, as you will have to richen it up as well as take timing out.
do you have a dyno sheet on 98?
30-10-2006, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
does the power runs which we see, show the final a/f of the engine?
or is it tuned for power,,, then tuned for duribilty
or is it tuned for power,,, then tuned for duribilty
it means its going to drop a LOT on normal fuel though of course.
30-10-2006, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
The dyno plot is on Optimax, the race fuel one han't been posted up 
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.Amazed to hear it managed to hold together for a flat out run in the 12s then.
Is that how its being left? Or is the worry that a big hill like at the ring could melt it if its left like that?
30-10-2006, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
It's been det checked and held flat out at Brunters and was signed off as being safe (well, as safe as 600bhp can be in a shit-box Ford ) .
) .Providing its warrantied and signed off, it doesnt matter if it melts anyway from the customers point of view, lol
for me then
30-10-2006, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by GARETH T
i am with chip though, i cant believe a massive power yb is running 12.6 12.5:1 a/f flat out
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I personally would have just expected it under 12 on pump fuel when held flat out at massive boost.
Just goes to show how safe low comp can make things perhaps?
15-04-2007, 05:38 PM
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In regards to there was never a real end result
and the fact i didnt want to read all of it but got hooked and spent about 2 hours reading it
and the fact i didnt want to read all of it but got hooked and spent about 2 hours reading it
15-04-2007, 05:58 PM
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Why are you trying to make my post out to be something that it is not Martin?
talking to me like I'm actually having a dig at anyone in particular or about any one thing that has been said when i clearly stated above that the reason i thought reading the whole 11 pages was because i never felt that it got to the bottom of what the whole topic turned into
Without starting anything up again, once this topic went from interesting "T66 power - super unleaded / solid lifters" to whos got the most powerfull engines whos Dyno is TUV approved Ect ect that was when i should have stop reading
Anyway my initial post saying "11 pages what a waste of time!" was my initial feeling after reading the whole thread thus the
BTW it really pisses me off when people tell me what to do
talking to me like I'm actually having a dig at anyone in particular or about any one thing that has been said when i clearly stated above that the reason i thought reading the whole 11 pages was because i never felt that it got to the bottom of what the whole topic turned into
Without starting anything up again, once this topic went from interesting "T66 power - super unleaded / solid lifters" to whos got the most powerfull engines whos Dyno is TUV approved Ect ect that was when i should have stop reading
Anyway my initial post saying "11 pages what a waste of time!" was my initial feeling after reading the whole thread thus the
BTW it really pisses me off when people tell me what to do
15-04-2007, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
Why are you trying to make my post out to be something that it is not Martin?
talking to me like I'm actually having a dig at anyone in particular or about any one thing that has been said when i clearly stated above that the reason i thought reading the whole 11 pages was because i never felt that it got to the bottom of what the whole topic turned into
Without starting anything up again, once this topic went from interesting "T66 power - super unleaded / solid lifters" to whos got the most powerfull engines whos Dyno is TUV approved Ect ect that was when i should have stop reading
Anyway my initial post saying "11 pages what a waste of time!" was my initial feeling after reading the whole thread thus the
BTW it really pisses me off when people tell me what to do
talking to me like I'm actually having a dig at anyone in particular or about any one thing that has been said when i clearly stated above that the reason i thought reading the whole 11 pages was because i never felt that it got to the bottom of what the whole topic turned into
Without starting anything up again, once this topic went from interesting "T66 power - super unleaded / solid lifters" to whos got the most powerfull engines whos Dyno is TUV approved Ect ect that was when i should have stop reading
Anyway my initial post saying "11 pages what a waste of time!" was my initial feeling after reading the whole thread thus the
BTW it really pisses me off when people tell me what to do
all the time
15-04-2007, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
Why are you trying to make my post out to be something that it is not Martin?
talking to me like I'm actually having a dig at anyone in particular or about any one thing that has been said when i clearly stated above that the reason i thought reading the whole 11 pages was because i never felt that it got to the bottom of what the whole topic turned into
Without starting anything up again, once this topic went from interesting "T66 power - super unleaded / solid lifters" to whos got the most powerfull engines whos Dyno is TUV approved Ect ect that was when i should have stop reading
Anyway my initial post saying "11 pages what a waste of time!" was my initial feeling after reading the whole thread thus the
BTW it really pisses me off when people tell me what to do
talking to me like I'm actually having a dig at anyone in particular or about any one thing that has been said when i clearly stated above that the reason i thought reading the whole 11 pages was because i never felt that it got to the bottom of what the whole topic turned into
Without starting anything up again, once this topic went from interesting "T66 power - super unleaded / solid lifters" to whos got the most powerfull engines whos Dyno is TUV approved Ect ect that was when i should have stop reading
Anyway my initial post saying "11 pages what a waste of time!" was my initial feeling after reading the whole thread thus the
BTW it really pisses me off when people tell me what to do
all the time 11 Pages martin not the engine, where did i say the engine making 666 was a waste of time? are ignorant or just trying to have a pop at me?
Mike Rainbird started the thread and incase you didnt see my sig I am a customer of his and yours that is happy with his work and class mike as a friend aswell
I think TonyK knows i wasnt talking about his engine as this topic went from his dyno sheet to a Tuner vs tuner war pages ago and i know you have been posting on this thread so clearly you knew this
and for the thrid and last time just for you martin
Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
"11 pages what a waste of time!" was my initial feeling after reading the whole thread thus the
15-04-2007, 07:36 PM
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Ok, I now sort of understand what you are trying to say! But you should say what you mean as your post of '11 pages.. waste of time' could mean anything. Anyhow how come you have only just commented... 6 months on! No Sunday Roast and drink involved btw!
15-04-2007, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Ok, I now sort of understand what you are trying to say! But you should say what you mean as your post of '11 pages.. waste of time' could mean anything. Anyhow how come you have only just commented... 6 months on! No Sunday Roast and drink involved btw!
i was doing a search on Pectel T6 managment and this came up in a search, soon as i see "T66 power - super unleaded / solid lifters" i thought this is gonna make for a good read, now you see my point dont you!
probebly should have put the above in my first reply to you
thats why im 6 months late
16-04-2007, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BRIGSPORT
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