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Old 19-02-2006, 09:59 AM
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CossieRich where did i mention Chip? ..I will now though Chip DOES know what he is talking about re the NOS and the system he told Rod to use was just too much..not his fault not Rods fault not Marks fault...I understand before the old NOS system at 200 shot gradually faded after first push and the new one doesnt str8 200 shot all the way.....So IMO MAD listened to an outside influence..a bit like listening to me and doin it Not a dig just an observation.I mean who possibly ISNT thinking that NOS was just too much and found out the YB's limit.
Old 19-02-2006, 10:11 AM
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Fair enough Phil. I stand corrected. Wasnt a dig or an attempt to start a war just an observation mate
Old 19-02-2006, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by puddy
Originally Posted by madevelopments
Originally Posted by puddy
Originally Posted by madevelopments
quote="smitsturbo"]is your saphire honestly putting out 900bhp or am i just gullible
why dont you get a specialist engineer to make 1 up from hardnd steel it might be expensive but so would buying new ones all the time, just an idea
We have no figs set in stone but you can work it out, 1000cc Injectors @3.5 bar +2.5bar boost so 6bar fuel pressure @8k 100% injector duty and we had to use the NOS fuel jets to add fuel I think it was 120 fuel jets which was double what we ran before.
So we can guess at 900hp and it is beliveable even for a scinic like me on HP est

Mark
Aaaaaaahh,the new MAD arse dyno!

Told you that nos push system would f*** your engine rod

Good luck with the new one

puddy
Yes but you said it would be the pistons niping up not the main caps snapping

Mark
Maybe thats why you're changing the pistons as well

puddy

ps.time to go 4 x bolt mains !!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

Thats because we are putting them in a new block, Why Would I put old pistons back in.

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Old 19-02-2006, 11:01 AM
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I guess a girdle would be a wise thing to put in the new engine? It would def help keeping those mains in place.
Old 19-02-2006, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by YBP
I guess a girdle would be a wise thing to put in the new engine? It would def help keeping those mains in place.
Do you know anyone that has a girdle plate fitted to a yb
Old 19-02-2006, 04:43 PM
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Joint MADRod/ Mark Shead statement.

we note & take in all those suggestions but can i add :

This engine is now 150bhp past its design Spec & its demise was sure to happen. If it had completed that run it would have been refreshed for future sale.
The mods that Mark will now make will take account of the new levels we have reached.
The crank will be returned to its manufacturer, (did you really believe this was not happening) but we expect no probs .
The pistons were never going back in despite being OK. The new set are already on the shelf at MAD awaiting this day & the rods will be checked.
MAD has always put his engines to the test, while others just talk about how good their engines are, we stand & fall by what we achieve, perhaps others should do the same.
The decision to up-grade the Nitrous system was mine, Mark has never been involved with that, he just tries to make sure it all hangs together . It was its first run following mods suggested by WON & it rather exceeded our expectations . We doubled the size of the petrol jet & Injector duty went from 92% to 100%, Mark suggested this must be Horses gained & boy was he right, cant wait to tame that lot.
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Rod could it ever end up being you just cant possibly get that kinda power to stay together?I mean its rather alot isnt it Should have retired after the 206mph run IMHO.

Thats not a dig either and you know it,but big up for trying maybe the impossible
Old 19-02-2006, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Joint MADRod/ Mark Shead statement.

we note & take in all those suggestions but can i add :

This engine is now 150bhp past its design Spec & its demise was sure to happen. If it had completed that run it would have been refreshed for future sale.
The mods that Mark will now make will take account of the new levels we have reached.
The crank will be returned to its manufacturer, (did you really believe this was not happening) but we expect no probs .
The pistons were never going back in despite being OK. The new set are already on the shelf at MAD awaiting this day & the rods will be checked.
MAD has always put his engines to the test, while others just talk about how good their engines are, we stand & fall by what we achieve, perhaps others should do the same.
The decision to up-grade the Nitrous system was mine, Mark has never been involved with that, he just tries to make sure it all hangs together . It was its first run following mods suggested by WON & it rather exceeded our expectations . We doubled the size of the petrol jet & Injector duty went from 92% to 100%, Mark suggested this must be Horses gained & boy was he right, cant wait to tame that lot.
Rod
fair play rod but when concerns were mentioned about the crank mark did say that he was happy that the crank was fine and it did sound like he was happy to reuse it. i have to say i reckon it will be trucked... now get it rebuilt and push it further as i have heard there's a quick escort on the horizon
Old 19-02-2006, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Rod could it ever end up being you just cant possibly get that kinda power to stay together?I mean its rather alot isnt it Should have retired after the 206mph run IMHO.

Thats not a dig either and you know it,but big up for trying maybe the impossible
Having done 210 already, we know thats possible. Records aint easy Phil & it takes a certain type of person to continue when most are ready to throw in the table, very few have the drive to continue.
You aint going to set records thats obvious Phil. I realise that a lot want us to stop because, breaking this record may get very difficult & i aint from the right camp . Records are earned & anyone who breaks this record will deserve it.
Rod
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not get it rebuilt and push it further as i have heard there's a quick escort on the horizon
You heard right Martin but who was your source?

Old 19-02-2006, 05:19 PM
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jesus!
Old 19-02-2006, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Having done 210 already, we know thats possible. Records aint easy Phil & it takes a certain type of person to continue when most are ready to throw in the table, very few have the drive to continue.
You aint going to set records thats obvious Phil. I realise that a lot want us to stop because, breaking this record may get very difficult & i aint from the right camp . Records are earned & anyone who breaks this record will deserve it.
Rod
You've summed it up nicely for me, keep at it Rod....... As i wouldn't expect anything less
Old 19-02-2006, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Alg1k
I could have bought a saph for Ł3k and built it for top speed i can modify the rear end myself and also put a nitrogen push system in
But i really aint arsed about top speed
Said this before Talk is easy, you have neither the Engineering expertise or the correct Tuner to build you an Engine to start to even contemplate doing battle with mine mate, best to keep talking about. Doing something is a lot harder.
Rod
Old 19-02-2006, 06:52 PM
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GOD I LOVE THIS FORUM
Old 19-02-2006, 07:10 PM
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wow - u are all a bunch of bitchs aint ya!

obviously all good in your own fields but all having a pop at each other?

thought this was sposed to be a friendly, informative and . . . . . . . usefull site. not somewhere to come and have a bitch

or do you lot prefer it?

Not having a pop though
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Originally Posted by le-claw
Battle...

Any 300bhp EVO on cadwell park will hammer your car mate....it really depends on the challenge.
Dont claim any records around a track matey, only claim what i can do. At this point in time no EVO has outrun mine at the Topend. Simon Norris claims its only a matter of time & hes probably right.
By the way this is a Ford Forum. post that on the Lancer Forum of which im a member & i will answer it. .
Rod
Old 19-02-2006, 07:15 PM
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Old 19-02-2006, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by le-claw
Daz, its not that big a deal mate.....remember the t4 days...40psi for how much power ...


26psi 486bhp
Mine
1.8 BAR 540 HP ATW
Old 19-02-2006, 07:23 PM
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daz u have a bigger blower than me
Old 19-02-2006, 07:41 PM
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keep it goin rod!
look forward to seeing what you guys come up with next time!
(if you reveal !! )
Old 19-02-2006, 07:43 PM
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rod look into a mains gurdle as this will improve block strength.
Old 19-02-2006, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Post taken over by the NMS jealous 'TOSSERS' gang as per usual, so best i dont reply again.
For those interested will post again when the engine is re-built.

Cheers Rod
You shouldnt take it to heart as i dont have any engineering expertise
what so ever,
Only stating facts,
Old 19-02-2006, 08:00 PM
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welcome back dingy
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Ranj
I hope your not building an unfinished prodject
We have to have a burn around the ring road ,
Old 19-02-2006, 08:15 PM
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good luck
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Rod keep up the good work,

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Old 19-02-2006, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RANJ
daz


ill do ya in the carina, speed cams have gone aswell
I have just had the TD boost upped so you may struggle
Old 19-02-2006, 08:50 PM
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***edited by webteam*** ...

please stop the silly provocation ...

thanks..
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post now cleaned by me and eagle
any more shite and the post will be locked,wont bother to clean it.
that goes for ME, rod,dingy,helen,daz and david
Old 19-02-2006, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Alg1k
Originally Posted by le-claw
Daz, its not that big a deal mate.....remember the t4 days...40psi for how much power ...


26psi 486bhp
Mine
1.8 BAR 540 HP ATW
My tuner does know what hes doing
But how much torque?
Old 19-02-2006, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Zetec Babe
Originally Posted by POPEYE
post now cleaned by me and eagle
any more shite and the post will be locked,wont bother to clean it.
that goes for ME, rod,dingy,helen,daz and david

Just proves my point of arsehole mods on here


You say stuff about Dave, he retaliates then everything gets edited

Always the same eh ?

fooking waste of time posting on here
what other mods want to say is up to them .. i have asked for this silly childish boring stuff to stop ..
everyone has to respond and add their snidy comments ... its not my fault they started it you do not have to reply to someone ..

if you want to push the point.. then dont sit there moaning when you get a 24 hr ban .

many thanks
Old 19-02-2006, 09:25 PM
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only one post was edited helen, by eagle
all other posts have been removed to the sin bin.and for your imformation dave started the first insult to phil,
ps, i just dont get upset over harmless insults
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Originally Posted by MAD Ade
Originally Posted by Alg1k
Originally Posted by le-claw
Daz, its not that big a deal mate.....remember the t4 days...40psi for how much power ...


26psi 486bhp
Mine
1.8 BAR 540 HP ATW
My tuner does know what hes doing
But how much torque?
493LBFT 2.0LTR
Old 19-02-2006, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by POPEYE
only one post was edited helen, by eagle
all other posts have been removed to the sin bin.and for your imformation dave started the first insult to phil,

Sorry, it was YOU who insulted Dave and Myself not Phil
Old 19-02-2006, 09:28 PM
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last warning ....

many thanks
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not bad daz
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Originally Posted by POPEYE
not bad daz
Its more now
Old 19-02-2006, 09:49 PM
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Honestly, u all sound like a bunch of babies.

Get back to the cars and get off the internet. Its quite embarrasing to watch grown men act like such kids.

RW
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Steven_RW


well said ..

dave .. no one is anyones guardian ...

a ban for continuing to keep on bringing this topic into the ground ..

i have warned you twice but you just had to have one more push ..
good night ..


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