CossieRich where did i mention Chip? ..I will now though Chip DOES know what he is talking about re the NOS and the system he told Rod to use was just too much..not his fault not Rods fault not Marks fault...I understand before the old NOS system at 200 shot gradually faded after first push and the new one doesnt str8 200 shot all the way.....So IMO MAD listened to an outside influence..a bit like listening to me and doin it Not a dig just an observation.I mean who possibly ISNT thinking that NOS was just too much and found out the YB's limit.